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Astronauts To Repair Shuttle Tiles With Foam Brush

lhouk281 writes "Repairing the space shuttle's heat shield on the fly might be easier than originally thought, thanks to a basic, inexpensive item in any painter's tool box -- the foam brush. The brush, which costs less than $1 at most hardware stores, was described by NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe as the perfect instrument for applying two compounds that together form a Super Glue-like substance to patch potential holes in the shuttle's heat-resistant tiles."

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  1. But what is the reality of this? by chia_monkey · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sounds good and all, but my skeptical side is about to come out again. Are we really going to go with the cheap $1.00 solution? I'm guessing NASA (or some other agency) will spend about $2.5 million on testing to make sure all the components of the brush are safe, will withstand radiation in space, won't react with the glue or the tiles, etc. Then all of a sudden we're up to $200 brushes (which are really exactly the same as the painter's brushes). Don't get me wrong...I like the fact we found a nice cheap solution and can repair on the fly (theoretically), but we know how the government is...

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    1. Re:But what is the reality of this? by pmz · · Score: 2, Funny

      Are we really going to go with the cheap $1.00 solution?

      Brush: $1.00
      Specially-formulated repair compound developed after three-years of intense R&D
      by a fully-funded two-way competition between contractors: $6,450,000/oz.

    2. Re:But what is the reality of this? by dschuetz · · Score: 3, Funny
      You forgot one step.
      • Brush: $1.00
      • Specially-formulated repair compound developed after three-years of intense R&D by a fully-funded two-way competition between contractors: $6,450,000/oz.
      • Look on the project manager's face when the losing company buys the winner outright: priceless

    3. Re:But what is the reality of this? by DerekLyons · · Score: 2, Insightful
      Sounds good and all, but my skeptical side is about to come out again. Are we really going to go with the cheap $1.00 solution? I'm guessing NASA (or some other agency) will spend about $2.5 million on testing to make sure all the components of the brush are safe, will withstand radiation in space, won't react with the glue or the tiles, etc. Then all of a sudden we're up to $200 brushes (which are really exactly the same as the painter's brushes)

      Which would you rather bet your life on:
      • A. A brush which may or may not be in a condition to use when you need it and that may or may not perform as advertised or as desired.
      • B. A brush whose characteristics are known and are guaranteed to work as advertised.

      As someone whose life once depended on long stored equipment maintaining it's properties, I'll choose option ' B ' every single time.

      Sure, the testing process is expensive, but in the end it means that you know what you have, and how it will perform. If you buy something at the local megamart and it does not live up to its promises, you can always drive right back and complain. For a soldier in the field, a sailor far out on the trackless ocean, or an astronaut in orbit, that option is not available.
  2. Re:What the heck are they thinking? by captainktainer · · Score: 2, Informative

    Two things:

    1) It was Columbia, not Challenger; both tragedies, of course, were due to the bureaucrats not listening to the people that actually understood what they were doing. Very, very bad.

    2) The problem with the foam was the velocity, not the composition of the material. This foam looks to be quite useful, although I'm a bit skeptical about outgassing rendering the foam useless before it can even be applied. And yes, I know it was a joke.

  3. Does the fix... by jmitchel!jmitchel.co · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does the fix also involve an inanimate carbon rod?

  4. Trailer park trash by wowbagger · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, are we going to see shuttles who's primary color is "primer" and "Bondo"?

    Shuttles with one wheel that is the mini-spare, for years?

    Shuttles with plastic over one window?

    Hmmm.

    Could be worse.

    We could see shuttles with spoilers, glo-lights, ThunderThump3000 stereos, and "R-Type" stickers...

  5. Give Them Time by DeLabarre · · Score: 3, Funny

    NASA employs many smart engineers...surely they can come up with a more expensive solution!

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  6. Goop in Space by tchdab1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Knowing how I get goop all over the place whenever I use some, I can envision the fuzzy photos of the astronaut crazy-glued to the bottom of the wing as the shuttle re-enters the atmosphere.

  7. The US Space Program by mraymer · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Every time I see another article about the shuttle here, I remember when I first heard the news. It was like hearing a close friend had died (namely the US Space Program).

    I hope this foam brush thing works, but I also hope that they don't have to use it in LEO as an emergency repair. I really, really hope that what happened with Columbia was just extremely unlucky, and not business as usual with the shuttles.

    I think the interesting this is other countries are starting to enter the space race. I hope someone plans a manned Mars mission or something, anything, to really spark some interest. Oh I know, manned spaceflight is too risky, not needed, blah blah. Yeah well, guess what, humans inevitably die. I'm sure that, given the choice, many humans would rather die pushing the boundaries of exploration and discovery than dying safely on earth in their beds.

    Earth isn't going to be here forever. The more we learn about surviving places other than on Earth, the better chance we have of outliving this little blue dot we call home.

    I think my sig fits in nicely here.

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  8. Re:two compounds = Super-Glue like? by TwP · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So they'll also have to bring with them a $1 water mister if they're going to use household Super Glue

    And on the sunny side of the Space Shuttle the water will boil away before it hits the glue. And on the dark side of the Space Shuttle the water will freeze before it hits the glue.

    The compound is probably akin to a two part epoxy -- epoxy (the glue) and resin (the hardener). Another option would be a UV curing glue. (1) Apply on the dark side of the Shuttle, (2) rotate Shuttle into sunlight, (3) watch glue cure, (4) profit!!!

  9. Re:Why not Bail out before/during re-entry? by ColaMan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you built something that the human could survive inside to withstand the stresses, congratulations, you've just rebuilt the shuttle.

    Hardly.

    How about a soyuz return capsule.
    Or even a 60's era MOOSE.

    It's only a metric ton of heat when you've got 50 tons of orbiter smacking into the atmosphere. There's a lot less excess energy to bleed off when it's 1 man+250kg. Still, *I* wouldn't want to try personal orbital re-entry until every other option was exhausted.

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  10. Carbon fibre duct tape? by bigsteve@dstc · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I know you intended that to be a joke, but it may be the root of the solution. Suppose NASA could develop semi-flexible patch material consisting of a carbon fibre composite with an adhesive backing. The astronauts would apply patches of this material, cut to shape with hand shears. By applying a number of layers, they would build up sufficient thickness of material to withstand the heat of reentry.

    I don't know how flexible a thin sheet of carbon fibre composite would be. But, if necessary, the patches could be preshaped with roughly the U profile needed to go around the leading edge.