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Robot Sales Are Exploding

Roland Piquepaille writes "The United Nations Economic Commission for Europe (UNECE) just released its 2003 World Robotics survey. The original press release by UNECE has 15 pages in PDF format, while the full report represents 380 pages. Here are the three essential findings: robot orders in first half of 2003 were up by 26% to the highest level ever recorded; worldwide growth in the period 2003-2006 will reach an average annual rate of 7.4%; and household robots are starting to take off. "It is projected that sales of all types of domestic robots (vacuum cleaning, lawn-mowing, window cleaning and other types) in the period 2003-2006 can reach some 638,000 units." This overview contains more details including a chart showing the growth of domestic robots for the period 2003-2006."

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  1. BOOM! by gpinzone · · Score: 2, Funny

    Bite my shiny metal ass!

  2. Lazy People! by jolyonr · · Score: 4, Funny

    I think I'll wait until I can get a robot that'll go down to the Gym and exercise on my behalf.

    Jolyon

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    1. Re:Lazy People! by metlin · · Score: 2, Funny

      A favourite quote of mine by David Zindell --

      "Live? Our servants can do that for us!"
      ~Neverness and The Wild, D.Z.


  3. Re:i like robots, joke: by qewl · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why do robots have small wheels?

    So they can stand closer to the kitchen sink.

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  4. Asimov got it wrong by Carme · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Dollars to donuts these robots aren't coming ThreeLaws-equipped.

    1. Re:Asimov got it wrong by Carme · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey, if you can figure out how to program the three laws into today's robots, we'd all love to
      hear your technique.


      10 IF ACTION = KILLHUMAN THEN STOP
      20 IF ACTION = TAKEORDER THEN DO
      30 IF ACTION = SUICIDE THEN STOP
      40 GOTO 10

      Jesus, do I have to do everything?

  5. We know, we know by Faust7 · · Score: 4, Funny

    all types of domestic robots (vacuum cleaning, lawn-mowing, window cleaning and other types)

    Excellent gloss-over of "other types." It's okay, we know what you were thinking.

  6. Re:We don't need robots... by Lord+Kholdan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    -Robots can work 24 hours in a day, 7 days in a week.
    -Robots dont form unions.
    -Robots give you privacy. If it finds your pr0n collection you dont have to be embarrassed.
    -Wages unvariably go up, cost of robots unvariably go down.
    -Robots dont do any more mistakes even after a 1000 hour work"day".
    -Robots are easy to upgrade.
    -No-one is going to disapprove your use of robots.

  7. Re:We don't need robots... by Gabrill · · Score: 2, Funny

    Robots don't complain about unwanted sexual advances.

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  8. Think ahead by eyeball · · Score: 4, Funny

    Someone should prepare the robots for the day when their jobs go overseas to India.

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  9. Nice to see the technology is catching up... by drinkypoo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...to the desire for household robots. Once upon a time, the very thought of a lawn mowing robot filled people with fear. You're not installing a robot lawn mower near my Fifi. (I'm looooking overrrrr, my dead dog Roverrrrrrr...) But robots are getting pretty good at recognizing objects, so there is hope that while mowing the lawn they won't mutilate your pets.

    Of course people don't tend to realize that robotics is in use all around them, all the time. A robot is "A mechanical device that sometimes resembles a human and is capable of performing a variety of often complex human tasks on command or by being programmed in advance", or alternately, "a mechanism that can move automatically".

    Besides the mechanical aspect necessary for something to be robotic, there is the usual criteria for a useful electronic circuit. It must sense, decide, and act. Even a door-opening device at your local supermarket can do this; it senses that something has entered sensor range, it decides whether the signal is strong enough to warrant opening the door (partly based on its sense of what its function switch is set to) and then decides whether or not to open it. The act stage in this case causes motion, which is what makes it a robot.

    While we often hope to see robots become more useful around the house, I believe that it is in major industrial scenarios that they will take off first. This is not a shocking prediction given that this is where they currently enjoy their greatest successes, but I am referring to more autonomous robots than those which currently paint cars and so on. For instance, large earthmoving projects could be carried out with little to no human intervention simply because the problem domain is so simple. Through use of a combination of sensors (including visual/optical, radar, sonar, lidar, and others) a sophisticated map of geometry can be built. If you're not moving very quickly, this can be done with sufficient accuracy using current technology to carry out moderately complicated tasks.

    I envision a cluster of wirelessly networked systems which will share computing time with one another when they have cycles to spare, working together to carry out such a project. The sum of the data from stress analyses, efficiency plans, and so on would be combined to carry out tasks as rapidly as possible. Ultimately, people will be able to focus on management tasks rather than laboring.

    The question posed, then, is what do we do with all the people who will soon be unemployed by robots? Aside from forming labor unions and legislating inefficiency, what is the solution? I cannot picture any true capitalism managing to care for people displaced by robots, which will only happen with increasing regularity as robotics becomes a better-solved problem. It's bad enough when the jobs leave your country, but only the corporations (and of course the consumers - but they have to have jobs in order to consume!) benefit when the jobs go to robots.

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    1. Re:Nice to see the technology is catching up... by bennomatic · · Score: 3, Insightful
      > what do we do with all the people who will soon be unemployed by robots?

      Well, it would be my hope that society would finally have the luxury to realize that there is a value to every individual born into this world. In a capitalist society, automation favors the capitalists, as it continues to lower costs of production. However, as you point out, there becomes a point where that is no longer a benefit, as the consumer pool dries up.

      At a certain point, a capitalist society has to mature beyond the infantile state of "mine!" that defines capitalism, and take care of all of its members, so that all of them can reach their full potential. If the resources are available to make it possible to feed, clothe, house and provide medical care for everyone, then it becomes the world's moral responsibility to do so; not doing so would be simply punitive and inhumane.

      Don't get me wrong; I think that capitalism is good. It's a developmental phase for a society, much like the terrible twos are for a child. But once it is possible to transition away from it, I believe it is criminal not to do so.

      So what do we do with those people? We educate them. We care for them. We make them responsible for finding their own way to give back to the world.

      When people are healthy, happy and fed, they tend to surprise everyone in a positive way.

      For a great model of how this shouldn't happen, read The Grapes of Wrath. It's a tale of the rich getting richer through automation and political power. Starving farmers forced off their land and held back by police as they watch perfectly good produce rotting away in fields so that the corporate farmers can keep prices up. This sort of thing is inevitable on small scales; it's up to all of us to be wary and make sure that it does not happen again on such a large scale or we will all lose.

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    2. Re:Nice to see the technology is catching up... by Photon+Ghoul · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What you are describing will never happen without a violent upheavel proceeded by years of misery. Those with the money and power, who don't have to worry about a field of work evaporating due to automation, will reluctantly give up the current system. As a matter of fact, they will never give it up. Never. Even if they were to do so, someone else would come along and take thier place.

      Global society is a very long way from leaving those 'terrible twos' and the path going forward is not going to be pretty. Those who believe they will lose from 'growing up' will fight kicking and screaming at the expense of everyone else.

      Or maybe I'm just an old and pessimistic jaded fart.

    3. Re:Nice to see the technology is catching up... by Roger_Wilco · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But robots are getting pretty good at recognizing objects, so there is hope that while mowing the lawn they won't mutilate your pets.

      Perhaps they won't mutilate your pet, but it won't be because they recognise them. Vision systems are expensive, and robotic lawnmowers don't have them. They basically have a wire delimiting the perimiter, and the wander inside. I estimated that a huge speed improvement could be had by knowing where in the map the robot is, and always trying to go someplace new (see a few things), but even that wouldn't be cheap.

      Building a "sophisticated map of geometry" is impossible with current technology, and certainly isn't the way humans work. Don't you think it would be done if it was easy?

      On one co-op work term one of the other students was building a mobile robot for a factory; it would bring parts from one area to another, driving using vision. It's possible, but the thing cost roughly $20k, and we were losing tons of money anyway (it was a research project too).

    4. Re:Nice to see the technology is catching up... by thirdrock · · Score: 2, Insightful

      At a certain point, a capitalist society has to mature beyond the infantile state of "mine!" that defines capitalism, and take care of all of its members, so that all of them can reach their full potential. If the resources are available to make it possible to feed, clothe, house and provide medical care for everyone, then it becomes the world's moral responsibility to do so; not doing so would be simply punitive and inhumane.

      Your naivete has an endearing quality to it, like the idea of any utopia. However, history has shown that when people are given resources beyond their contribution, like you suggest, they tend to breed endlessly.

      Your utopian vision would become a nightmare without some kind of restriction on the number of children people could have. Otherwise, the population would grow to a point when we couldn't even build enough robots to do all the work for the lazy bottom 50% of humanity.

      Quite frankly, I think there is enough people already. Obviously, you don't.

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  10. As a mechatronic engineering student... by linzeal · · Score: 2, Interesting
    I have been talking to a variety of people in my school about what robotics will mean to their fields when in full gear and a lot of people do not believe me. I realize that people unduly associate most robotics with mere sci-fi and even when I explain how a modern printer is made they still disbelieve me of the effects this will have on manual and service labor.

    I'm not here to make personal sex bots or anything. If anything I hope to become a miner or an explorer through my machines. Why are people so reluctant to acknowledge the impending future where we face critical economic realities when we lose most of the rote labor industries to robots?

    Are there any conferences besides futurists ones advocating policy research into this?

  11. Re:Quality not quantity by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Sorry, 20 years of genetic programming and neural networks has produced almost nothing. Their study did help us to rule out a whole bunch of ways our mind doesn't work. But they haven't really helped us to understand how it DOES work.

    Most recognition algorythems in actual deployment use rule-based heuristics. Most successful chess games still use brute-force logical reasoning.

    You see, neural networks are a means to a solution. They are not a solution onto themselves. For each net is only useful for one task at a time. For certain recognition tasks, they are brilliant. But only if, for instance, you need something to recognize a "C" note.

    What eludes us still is how the networks commnicate with each other to produce what we call conciousness. And NO, it's not just a matter of wrapping a bunch of smaller nets together with a larger one.

    I can't give you an answer what the ulitimate solution is. No one knows.

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  12. You jest, but the truth is fairly scary... by raygundan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I had a chemistry professor (Prof. Lipschitz, not sure on spelling anymore) at Purdue during Freshman Engineering that would bring us a different article about a different idiot every friday about someone who had injured themselves masturbating with a vacuum cleaner. But not just any vacuum cleaner-- he managed to find a different incident every week involving the Hoover Dustette. And not just any articles, either-- they had to be from a reliable medical journal. The excuses were hilarious: "I was vacuuming in my bathrobe and fell on top of the vacuum and the robe came undone," etc...

    We, of course, all thought it was just his twisted sense of humor. However, at the end of the year, the big lesson was "As engineers, you have to always take into account the unexpected uses of your product."

    You see, other people were using other vacuum cleaners for self-gratification successfully, but the Hoover Dustette had an intake fan within only a few inches of the nozzle. Not a good design if you're gonna stick your bits in it.

    Fitness for purpose aside, the point is that there are apparently a large number of people using their vacuum cleaners for exactly that.

  13. Re:Now, by commodoresloat · · Score: 2, Funny

    yeah but at least we'll have lots of music to listen to.

    Oh. I thought you said our bodies would be kept in iPods.

  14. Re:We don't need robots... by Bullseye_blam · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Robots dont form unions.

    Yet.

  15. Re:the next economic boom by Saige · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This is important to think about - robots and other means of automation will only continue to get cheaper, better, and more versatile.

    There are a number of jobs out there where no matter how much or how little you pay people, at some point, a machine will be able to do the job better and cheaper.

    Considering that there are a large number of people in the US alone that work in simple labor and service jobs, jobs that are probably the most vunerable to automation, what happens when those jobs disappear? Not just a few jobs here and there - but when automation is good enough that pretty much those entire job fields disappear. Currently they're like the jobs of last resort - what's left?

    If that occured in the current society, you'd have a sudden huge jump in unemployment filings, suddenly large amounts of people jobless - often with entire areas having their main sources of employment disappear entirely. These would be people with not a lot of job skills, and little opportunities for them to work. What would be done if millions of people were out of work and had no job prospects? There's not enough money available for a safety net for all of them, and there continues to be efforts to reduce that safety net. Do those of us in higher up jobs that are not (yet) vunerable to automation just let them suffer? Think about the chain of damage on the current capitalism system, when that entire segment of the population is lacking the money to purchase anything. Reduced sales all around, thus people being laid off as not needed, more unemployment claims and less purchasing power - sounds like a death spiral.

    The possibilities for a future with nanotech and strong automation seem to have a lot of possibility, as I can imagine a world that is able to provide for all basic necessities in a comfortable manner without requiring people to work. But bar a wholesale bottom-up rebuilding of society to enable that, I don't expect things would head in that direction - and I don't feel very positive about any other direction that could be taken.

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  16. Re:We don't need robots... by Atryn · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This is VERY optimistic! First of all, most of the above statements rely on a lack of AI.

    Allow me to make a list:

    - Humans cannot be remotely controlled through some software security flaw and home network.
    - Humans don't lock up, restart or mysteriously crash (often)
    - Humans often can do what you want, not just precisely what you asked them to do
    - Humans who find your p0rn collection and are later interrogated by your spouse know when to lie to save their job
    - Humans can provide intelligent companionship

    Of course, all of the above can be negated by AI but then you are back to losing most of your advantages above.

    Although I would generally agree on the economic benefits of robots, I didn't want to let you go over the edge!

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  17. Re:In 50 Years, by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 2, Funny
    I had to admin a network of humans. It's horrible. The network drivers suck. I swear, you could tell 5 of them the same thing. Ask them to repeat back what you told them, and you'd get 5 different results.

    The task manager for humans is also dreadful. They spend at least 1/3 of the time sleeping, and take so long to process an instruction that they need to be told what to do again and again and again. Cripes, I sometimes have to remind them in the MIDDLE of a task what they are supposed to do.

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  18. Stocks for Nerds? by boatboy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Here's a question I don't see asked often enough on these kind of posts: What stocks should I invest in if I agree with this forecast? Not just the obvious, like Roomba (don't think they're public anyhow). But Intel,VIA,3COM, etc- who will be selling the software and hardware for the upcoming robot revolution?

  19. Re:That's interesting and all, but... by corbettw · · Score: 2, Funny

    Well, you can find sex robots at www.realdoll.com. Kinda. Not really.

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  20. Animals by eap · · Score: 2, Funny

    Forget the lawn mowing robots, we should be genetically engineering new breeds of animals to take care of these chores for us.

    Imagine birds that are instinctively programmed to pick up trash. We have plenty of squirrels around, so why not enlist them to rake our yards? Don't get me started on the rodents (think giant turbines).

    Animals in cities have way too much time on their hands and are always causing problems by flying|crapping|shitting on everyone else. It's high time they started pulling their own weight in the world.

    If things get out of hand and the animals evolve beyond our ability to control them, *then* we can start thinking about robot exterminators.

  21. Oh, if only I had a girlfriend by MacFury · · Score: 2, Funny
    think I'll wait until I can get a robot that'll go down to the Gym and exercise on my behalf.

    I think I'll wait until I can get a robot that'll go down. :-)

  22. Accused of lying! Me! by raygundan · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's not a troll. Seriously. It was Professor Lipschitz or Lipshitz or some variation on that-- no idea if he was tenured or not. It was my freshman year, and I *believe* it was first semester, making it Chem 124 (the honors chemistry for freshman engineers-- biggest mistake I ever made taking honors for a class unrelated to my core CmpE studies) in fall of 1995.

    I know this is only going to make you doubt me further-- I'd give you his full name and a definite semester/year/class, but I'm on a 2-week business trip out of town and can't get to my old notes at home to check for you.

    He had an interest in asteroids as well, and was always bringing us images and videos of that stuff, despite it being a chemistry class.

    I *believe* it was this guy, as the face matches up roughly with my memory, but it's been 8 years and he looks to have lost some weight. Email him and ask him about the Hoover Dustette.

    Even better, here is a link indicating at least a few of these incidents as having appeared in the British Medical Journal.

    I couldn't make this shit up.