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Spam Rapidly Increasing In Weblog Comments

dsurber writes "BBC News has a nice article discussing 'flyblogging', the phenomenon of spammers leaving advertising-related posts on personal weblogs. The writer comments: 'None of the other blogs I contribute to or run has been affected yet, but I can only assume it is a matter of time before the spammers move in, as they did first with UseNet and then with e-mail. It depresses me to think that any open medium can be so easily undermined by people with no scruples, no sense of responsibility and no idea of the damage they are doing.'" It seems a little surreal that people are having to develop anti-spam weblog tools.

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  1. Wikis too? by Thinkit3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They would seem vulnerable to spamming. I was on a lojban wiki for awhile which was under the radar enough to avoid it, but don't know about now.

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    1. Re:Wikis too? by lacrymology.com · · Score: 4, Funny

      How dare you post this here to give all of the spammers an idea you insensitive clod! Haven't you ever heard of security through obscurity? You just as bad as that box-cutter college kid and those dangerous white hats! -m

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  2. Here's My Solution by notsewmit · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Since most blog spammers will search for "Remember personal info?" in various search engines to quickly find personal blogs, I edited my MovableType templates. Now, instead of saying "Remember personal info?" on the comments page, I have something else that spammers don't normally search for.

  3. This is why... by Sanity · · Score: 4, Funny
    ...you need Locutus! Its absolutely FREE and works with Outlook, Outlook Express, and Eudora!

    So why not try the best anti-spam tool on the market and wave goodbye to those pesky spams?!

  4. Mod by CGP314 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Perhaps these 'web logs' could come up with a kind of 'moderation system' to let users filter out the crap.

    1. Re:Mod by orthogonal · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh please, it doesn't even work on Slashdot half the time. Intelligent posts get modded down all the time because they're not the majority opinion.

      Mod heretical parent down!!

      Baa! Baa!

  5. I have a quick and dirty solution. by Ignorant+Aardvark · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Use the same type of human verification system that Yahoo uses when signing up for an e-mail account. If you can't type in the mangled letters in the image, then your post to the weblog is ignored. This would only be required for anonymous postings - if you're logged in, presumably you've already passed the human verification test upon account creation, so you don't have to go through the hassle each time you want to post.

    1. Re:I have a quick and dirty solution. by Alan · · Score: 4, Informative
      There has been some discussion on this that I've seen on various blogs I read, and basically the concensus seems to be that people don't want to make the barrier to entry of submitting a comment harder (ie: accounts), as part of the beauty of blog comments is the spontinaity. Most people I've seen have either done some of the 7 tips for a spam free blog or are using the MT Blacklist plugin.


      Once I installed the latter and did some of the former, I've had almost no spam, vs several hundred over a couple of days. Now whether that is testimony to how well the tips work or that the spammers are going in short bursts then taking breaks is still unknown.

    2. Re:I have a quick and dirty solution. by GeorgeH · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's called a CAPTCHA, and James Seng wrote a Moveable Type plugin to do this with MT. CAPTCHA stands for Completely Automated Public Turing Test to Tell Computers and Humans Apart, you can read more in this story

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    3. Re:I have a quick and dirty solution. by 4of12 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That excludes people who prefer to browse using text, which is what that image recognition filter effectively does. Blind people, low bandwidth folks are automatically eliminated from the community.

      Requiring a periodic human response at the other end of a live email address, after a time interval, helps some. It's still possible for spammers to cultivate a temporary reputation of responsibility and spam a site as their last post, but requiring them to periodically exert effort to prove they're authentically human helps to make spamming hard work.

      It wouldn't hurt for sites to start keeping a growing list of bad urls and poisoned posters. A spider that visits url's, maybe one or two deep after the posted URL (phenomena of delayed appearance of herbal viagara behind URLs that are opaque looking), checks for spam links, and assigns big negative karma would help some, especially if it runs before the posting appears on the blog.

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  6. Awkward Alternative. by CGP314 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Although the term flyblog has been used already to mean either blogging about flying, or blogging while flying, I would like to claim it for the practice of posting spam comments to people's blogs like this: I have just been comprehensively flyblogged

    I like I have been splamogged much better. Just rolls off the tongue.

  7. This was happening to my guestbook too by Phoenix-kun · · Score: 5, Informative

    I had the same problem with the guestbook on my website. I was used to the occasional, manually entered, advertisement that I would then promptly remove. However, suddenly my guestbook was being hit with dozens of spam advertisements at a time, all at the same time. This was taking place every couple of days. It was always the same ads with bogus compliments, but the source IP addresses would vary widely from attack to attack. A review of my access log showed spybots looking for the presence of certain common guestbook scripts, one of which I was using. Then later, the spambot would hit my site executing the scripts directly. I got around it by changing the file name of the script. Normal users to my site would follow the link and get to the guestbook with no problem. But since the spambots depended on the script being a certain name, they would fail with a 404 error.

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  8. Don't be rediculous by Sanity · · Score: 4, Funny
    That would lead to censorship by majority and the inability to say anything that contradicts the weblog's collective "groupthink" without getting moderated down.

    *ducks*

    1. Re:Don't be rediculous by quacking+duck · · Score: 5, Funny

      You got modded up. Conformist!

    2. Re:Don't be rediculous by CGP314 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, I think a bigger problem would be audience size. You need to reach a certain critical mass before the moderation system would work. Most blogs, my own included, do not have the necessary audience.

  9. Re:Uh, try disabling comments altogether... by aliens · · Score: 4, Funny

    Have you read the comments most people post on these things, anyway? They're even more asinine than the weblogs themselves...

    Yeah I mean who reads these comments anyway? Can you imagine a site full of these asinine people writting about stuff they don't even know the first thing about?

    What a stupid stupid idea ::)

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  10. Re:I've Noticed by mcrbids · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The solution is simple: stop buying what spammers are offering and they will go under soon after.

    This is one of those simple-sounding, and utterly worthless "solutions".

    You see, you can stop buying what the spammers are offering, but will everybody else? You see, this world is chock-full of people who just don't get it when it comes to spam. They don't realize the mechanical nature of SPAM, many think the message was sent by somebody to them personally.

    Scams were common in the 20th, 19th, 18th, 15th, and 11th century, why would they stop now?

    So, really, what you in fact just said was " The solution is simple: change human nature for every person on the earth to a very cynical nature and then spend billions of dollars in education so that people know what SPAM is and how best to treat it, and they will go under soon after." .

    Utopia doesn't exist, and won't as long as there are people to pollute it. In the meantime, we have to deal with the fact that this world has both unscrupulous people and suckers.

    The solution is to change the protocol of Email to introduce enough resistance to communication to thwart SPAM. Until that happens, SPAM will be a problem.

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  11. The article misses the point by HealYourChurchWebSit · · Score: 4, Interesting


    The BBC article misses the point, as does a similar article in Wired. Seems the editors are more focused on name-dropping and doomsdaying than on focusing on some recent solutions. For example:

    Point is ... perhaps we'd all be better service if said articles spent less time on the hype and a bit more investigation on some of the solutions ... whether they succeed or fail ... as both are educational.

    Just so long as no one attempts to use a rather evil solution I discovered here on /... ... that would be wrong ...

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  12. Re:I've Noticed by brianosaurus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I think the ads in the blogs are going for better Google PageRank scores, rather than for direct exposure. Most blogs don't get a whole lot of traffic, mostly just family and friends, if even that much. Only a very small percentage of that audience will click, and they surely won't fall for it more than once.

    But google reads a lots of blogs. If a spammer gets their link onto a whole lot of blogs, Google PageRank would see hundreds or thousands of links to their site and bump up its rank. They exploit everyone's blog in order to improve their score on searches.

    That's the theory anyway. Whether or not it works is another story.

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  13. Re:Google? by Lagged2Death · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My hobbyist project was picked up by Google after a while, but it wasn't until I retroactively changed my comment signature here on Slashdot and on Kuro5hin (thereby creating many links to my project page) that it went to the top of the search results. It wasn't my intent to subvert Google in any way - I was quite surprised by the dramatic result.

    There have been some less-than-scrupulous advertising companies in the business of that publishing dummy machine-generated web pages to exploit this trick. The dummy pages were typically filled with repitions of some nonsense paragraph, with self-links (to other dummy pages) and client-sponsored links interspersed here and there. The idea was that the self-linking would make the site look like a large, legit site to Google, which would mark it as relatively well-trusted and influential. Then Google would dutifully note the client-sponsored links and rank them highly. I believe Google has worked on ways to stop this; I don't know how successful they've been, or if the dummy-site makers are still around.

  14. Re:Why let users comment on your blog at all? by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Make your blog read-only and the spam problem goes away.

    Doesn't it?


    Yes, but in many cases so also will the blog's audience go away.

    One of the key atttractions of small-to-middle-sized weblogs is the interactivity. If the blog author says something incorrect, you can let him know. If you have additional information pertaining to something a blogger wrote about, you can share it with her.

    Without comments, blogs are just another one-way communications medium. Not to say that's an undesirable thing, but we already have plenty of those.