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Who Needs Radio?

DragonMagic writes "MSNBC asks what many /.ers have been asking: Who needs the radio anymore? Rather, it goes on to really ask, who needs the RIAA anymore? With online music distribution sources, television, and the internet itself, how much longer will it be before the radio, and the RIAA, will be an obsolete means to promote artists?"

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  1. What? by marshac · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why do you assume that only music is played over the radio? I listen to NPR for hours every day on my daily drive to/from work.

    1. Re:What? by contrabassoon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Indeed. As a radio producer, I feel the real "art" in radio is well beyond just spinning tunes. KPFA, NPR BBC PRI and many other entities are actively using radio as a communications medium, rather than just a corporate jukebox. There are great shows like "this american life" which are compelling and creative. I am hopeful that more and more of this type of radio production will help keep the medium current in the years to come.

      Radio has been around for 100 years. It's pretty amazing that TV, the internet, etc. haven't killed it. It's still enjoyed by hundreds of millions of people here in the US every day.

    2. Re:What? by Davak · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The elderly really depend on radio.

      I have cared for many elderly people who would sit and listen to the world--their world--on the radio each day.

      Church services, local sports, weather, politics, school functions--these all are often played on small local radio stations... and the older generation feels that they can keep in touch this way.

      With their decreasing vision and difficulty manipulating the TV, the radio is an excellent friend to these people.

      I wonder if they'll be prying the keyboard out of my hands one day... as all the younger generations have their neural inplants. They'll all be slashdotting with direct neural connections and laughing how the mouse and keyboard will soon die.

      Davak

    3. Re:What? by slasher999 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      How soon we forget. Anyone remember how useless the Internet was on 11 September 2001? Internet communication still uses shared bandwidth and is typically a one to one communication. Each user opens a connection to a web server over a relatively small pipe and requests data. With radio the data is always there - just turn on the receiver. No bandwidth constraints, no waiting for requests to be processed, no /. effect, and most of the time it's backhoe-proof. Can't say that for most websites or the Internet infrastructure in general.

    4. Re:What? by McDutchie · · Score: 4, Insightful
      How soon we forget. Anyone remember how useless the Internet was on 11 September 2001?
      No, I remember how useless mainstream news websites were on 11 September 2001. The Internet was working as well as always, and mirror sites were springing up all over the place. IRC and e-mail were also working just fine. The Internet was extremely useful indeed, if you just bothered to look beyond the mainstream web. Remember, Internet != WWW.
  2. Erm... a lot of people by gardyloo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anyone who doesn't have fast internet access or a television (or who doesn't want to pay for cable television).
    Anyone who likes to camp and take a $5 transistor radio along, rather than lug a satellite uplink system for online-access.
    Anyone who drives, and likes to have music or blather going while doing it (driving, that is).

    In short, a LOT of people.

  3. I love radio by matt_morgan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Or, to be more specific, I love a few radio stations. WFMU (wfmu.org; 91.1 in the NYC/NJ area), KFJC, a few other great stations. The radio we don't need is all the monopolized Clear Channel stations. We all know they suck. But great, personal, free-form radio is still out there, and with web streaming is thankfully more available than ever. Maybe I'm crazy, but I like to be surprised by what I like once in a while. Without WFMU, I'd be listening to the same stuff over and over. If you're tired of radio, you're listening to the wrong stations.

  4. Is it just me ... by dabooda · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... or did everyone in the world become a computer user/music downloader over night?

    Not everyone has a PC and not everyone get's their taste of new music from the interent.

    In fact I would say that most people hear music on the radio then either buy the CD or download the mp3.

    I doubt that services iTunes will make radio stations disappear ...

    --
    "Yeah Tommy, before Zee Germans get here ..."
  5. Driving? by TamMan2000 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How does that change the question? Can't you theoretically get talk radio content over, say, the Internet?

    While driving?

    --
    "I'll have a Guinness, no wait, make that a Coors Light" -Grad student I work with, who shall remain anonymous...
  6. NPR, blackouts, conservative shills by spoonyfork · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Hey, I'm one of the millions that listen to NPR during the day, mostly to and from work.

    In case you weren't affected by the GREAT FEARSOME BLACKOUT OF 2003 , those of us who were crowded around radios to get news.

    Don't forget the 20 million so-called "dittoheads" that hang on Rush's every word every day. Republican shill talk radio has never been so popular (depending on where you read your stats).

    There's big money in radio and the guy who owns it is raking it in.

    --
    Speak truth to power.
  7. talk on the radio by Jucius+Maximus · · Score: 5, Insightful
    (I hope this post goes through. I've gotten that damn 500 internal server error something like 30 times on this one post.)

    For sure. News stations that feature only news all the time are a godsend when commuting, and important in emergencies as well.

    Remember The Blackout? I was at work patching the office for the Blaster worm when the lights went out. If it wasn't for radio and other wireless communication, we would have had no idea wtf was going on. Thankfully radio stations with reserve power managed to transmit so everyone could get into the car or use battery powered tranceivers to get the news updates.

    I used to drive to and from Toronto all the time across a strech of the 401 and if it wasn't for 680 news I would have gotten into a lot of traffic jams.

    Thus radio is still needed because it is an important way of disseminating information quickly, especially when only battery or small generator power is available.

  8. During the most recent great blackout. . . by kfg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    (yes, I'm old enough to remember more than one) everything failed. My internet connection went down, my TV went black, my electric lights went out ( my oil lamps chugged along like always).

    My portable radio worked like a charm and the emergency generators the radio stations employ kept them on the air.

    Promoting RIAA "stars" is hardly the only use for radio. In fact, small radio stations are still the most used medium for promoting obscure music unaligned with the RIAA, why do you think they oppose the proliferation of small neighborhood radio stations?

    Radio is one of the true modern marvels, its usefulness is far from past.

    KFG

  9. Re:Translated for the America-Impaired by cyril3 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    NPR is left-wing only if you believe that "if you are not with us, you are against us"

  10. pacifica radio is great! by rjnagle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, it's a bit unfair to tout noncommercial radio on this discussion. But Pacifica Radio is full of fresh surprising viewpoints, and my local Houston affiliate kpft.org actually plays great music. It gives you a sense of how fun dj's used to be.

    --
    Robert Nagle, Idiotprogrammer, Houston
  11. Bogus claim of submitter by LordSah · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Rather, it goes on to really ask, who needs the RIAA anymore?

    No, it doesn't. If the the submitter had read the article without his anti-RIAA glasses on, he would've realized that the article just questions the relevance of radio in a world dominated by the internet and visual media.

    The article specifically mentions Kelly Clarkson and Clay Aiken. Kelly received quite a bit of radio play, while Clay was seldom heard on the airwaves but still outsold Ms. Clarkson. Quote:
    But the heir to her throne, runner-up but reigning king, Clay Aiken, didn't have as much luck with radio. Deejays across the country mocked him, didn't take him seriously, and often refused to play his music. Well the joke just might be on them.
    Despite little radio play, Aiken's debut album went double platinum in its first week of release, out-selling Clarkson's album by a landslide. Aiken's success serves as a shining example of the power television now has over the music industry, and the arguably insignificant power radio has these days.
    (emphasis mine)

    This article addresses radio's lessened impact on the recording industry, and not the recording industry's impact on society.

  12. Re:Translated for the America-Impaired by Inebrius · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A suicide bomber is someone that blows themself up.

    A homicide bomber is someone that blows themself up with the intent of blowing others up.

    If someone shoots a bunch of people and then shoots themself, do you call it a mass suicide or murder?

    To me, it's obvious. I don't know why the rest of the news media doesn't recognize the obvious.

  13. Idiot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful
    NPR is NOT "left wing". Never has been, and I've been listening for almost 20 years. If they seem to have a political slant, it's because the shows and views presented are usually in tune with the sensibilities of academics and artists and sometimes geeks even.

    Yeah, three groups that vote overwhelmingly liberal. I hope that's a troll, and that you're not actually as stupid as you seem.

  14. Re:Translated for the America-Impaired by Guppy06 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "NPR is left wing (although it seems middle-of-the-road to liberals)."

    Um... I'm "conservative" by most peoples' reckonings. I'm pro gun rights, pro states rights, I like the idea of free trade, support the continuing mission in Iraq, and I even voted for Bush in '00 (although I'll probably be voting against Ashcroft next year). About the only thing I'm not is a member of the GOP (political parites... blech...). But I can't stand Fox News and routinely rely on NPR for all my news above all other options.

    If NPR is so "left-leaning," there'd be a lot more opinion-based commentary, kind of like Fox News. NPR is about the only place where you can find a news group that routinely reads letters over the air from dissenting listeners, and they don't even comment on/reply to/belittle those.

    About the only "left" part of public radio is the funding scheme. But even then, I've never heard programming on a public radio station underwritten by a labor group.