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Catching Up With The Rocket Guy

Jedi Holocron writes "The full article is at Space.Com and reports on the current status of Brian "Rocket Guy" Walker's home-brew space program. This is the guy who is planning to build a rocket in his backyard, funded by his toy inventions. He's scaled back from an X-Prize launch to a mere 15,000 feet with a sky-diving return. This could be the next ride installed next to Disney's Mission:Space if he has his way!!! All told he's now calling it an amateur rocket, however it doesn't look like the model rockets I remember."

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  1. Ejection System by GaelenBurns · · Score: 5, Funny

    I imagine is shooting him out of the top with a parachute on his back the way that an Estes does.

  2. It's nice to see... by r_glen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Some people don't give up on their childhood dreams

  3. When you catch up with the rocket guy by PD · · Score: 5, Funny

    There's some equipment you might need when you catch up with him. For example, this might be useful. And to load him up, you might need one of these. Of course, to be truly prepared, make sure you have access to plenty of these and some of this.

  4. It's cool that he's a toymaker by macshune · · Score: 3, Insightful

    and that he's building a *rocket*. I'm sure this will inspire a lot of kids to go into science if it works.

    I'm also sure it's good for him because he can turn around and make action figures of himself and his rocket!

  5. Re:The X-prize is retarded by stoolpigeon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anybody in serious contention for winning the x-prize is motivated by far more than the prize itself.

    Those who are working on a budget that makes the prize itself impressive do not have a chance.

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  6. Can Elton John take any legal action? by public_class_name_ex · · Score: 5, Funny


    I thought *he* was the rocket man?

  7. hmm that's easier alright by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He's scaled back from an X-Prize launch to a mere 15,000 feet with a sky-diving return.

    Isn't that what a lot of small airfields propose under the name of "parachute jump" for $100, 1-hour training session included for first-timers ?

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  8. Re:The X-prize is retarded by jd · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Not necessarily. For a start, ten million isn't much, these days. Sponsors could probably be found for more and more outrageous contests.


    Then, there's the thrill factor. You've gone into space. Twice. And you've the technology to go there again. But it's too expensive to go it alone. So you start advertising for N'Sync musicians interested in a visit to Low Earth Orbit.


    (After which, you tell him the music is carp, read him some Vogon poetry, and throw him out of the airlock. After which, he has 30 seconds to be rescued by a shoe.)

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  9. Favorite Quote by stoolpigeon · · Score: 3, Funny

    In carting the rocket on a truck around town, Walker said he hangs a simple right to bear arms sign on the back: "I take my second amendment rights real seriously."

    If I owned one of these I could change my bumper to stick to read "My rocket has killed less people than Ted Kennedy's car" That would be sweet.

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    1. Re:Favorite Quote by jd · · Score: 2, Funny

      Pathetic. Now, if he had a bumper sticker that said: "Area 51: Alien Cleanup Patrol"....

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  10. If he only wants to hit 15K feet... by ElGuapoGolf · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If he's only shooting for 15,000 feet, why not just build a modern day ME163 rocket fighter? I seem to recall that it could fly at around 30,000 feet, and there was an improved B version that had enough fuel for 15 minutes of flying time.

    If they just fixed the whole nasty "randomly exploding" problem it was prone to, it could be fun.

    I don't know much about the lil rocket, but didn't the Russians also build a version? Anyone know anything about that?

    1. Re:If he only wants to hit 15K feet... by DogIsMyCoprocessor · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Hell, I can drive my car on a paved road above 14,000 feet.

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  11. Re:Interesting by twiddlingbits · · Score: 2, Informative

    I hope you were not serious. 15,000 feet is not that high, we have mountains that high in the USA. ICBMs reenter at 200,000 feet plus and have a screamingly high velocity. Plus anyone watching on radar would see it go UP first. If he is smart enough to build it I'm sure he will notify someone he is launching it. It won't look like an ICBM -- I guarantee. (apologies to Justin Wilson) I just hope he launches it somewhere (like the middle of the desert) that whatever comes down does not hurt anyone or destroy some property, otherwise it's a cool idea! I hope he makes it!

  12. Inter-Continental Ballistic Lawndarts by mikeophile · · Score: 2, Funny

    Anyone up for a game over the Rockies?

  13. Catching up with the rocket guy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Are you sure the Rocket Guy is not trying to catch up with the road runner?

  14. TechTV had him on 'Invent This!' by gatekeep · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This guy was recently on Invent This! on TechTV.

    He talked about some system to distill 50% peroxide into 90%. Didn't Carmack say that wasn't feasible to do in the volume he needed?

    1. Re:TechTV had him on 'Invent This!' by Thagg · · Score: 3, Interesting

      One problem is that Carmack's H202 suppliers demanded that he sign papers saying that he wouldn't concentrate the H202 any further, IIRC.

      You've got to hand it to Carmack, he takes things seriously.

      One of Carmack's biggest problems now is where to launch his rocket, as the parachute descent could end anywhere within a few dozen mile radius, and it's hard to secure that large an area. He's seriously considering going to a powered landing just so he can land it at a particular place.

      The X-Prize is seriously hard. I'd be surprised if anybody actually makes it by the specified cut-off time of Jan 1 2005.

      thad

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  15. Tougher for the individual... by drenehtsral · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As technology advances, it becomes tougher for the small-scale individual to do pretty much _anything_ themselves. I'm really psyched that this guy is trying.

    When airplanes were new, anybody could build a decent one that would compete with at least the low-range commercial ones. Same with computers, cars, operating systems (but then, hey, look at Linux now!). I guess what I'm trying to say is that no matter how may people call this dude a fool, I think he's doing something really cool =:-)

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  16. Quote by Eric+Seppanen · · Score: 2
    If anyone knows who originally said this, I'd appreciate hearing about it. It seems appropriate here:

    A ship poorly built is a raft
    an airplane poorly built is a cart
    a rocket poorly built is a bomb.

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  17. Re:Interesting by twiddlingbits · · Score: 2, Informative

    I did RTFA. I'm not worried about his FUTURE plans, that will never happen for a number of reasons. He even realizes it... When the self-made space traveler began the quest several years ago, the idea was to fly up 50 miles to the border of space. He has since stepped back from bankrolling a full-size rocket design to a more modest missile -- one that shoots to 15,000 feet. .... Walker is not gunning for the X Prize. That's the worldwide competition to hurl passengers to the edge of space and snag a $10 million purse. What appeals to Walker is building a client base of rocket riders, drawing from the skydiver community. Eventually, in step-by-step fashion, rockets toting skydivers and non-skydivers alike can be designed, built, and flown to ever-higher heights, he said. Unless he has some VERY deep pockets or some investors with them he isn't going to get 50 miles up. That requires at least two stages, serious rocket engines, real G&C, heat shield for rentry, life support, a support team, launch platform, etc. He is having fun at a high-level amateur level, but he isn't going to be making any sub-orbital flights. He is a crazy guy who is having fun, a harmless kook. He isn't the next Robert Goddard.

  18. Re:Interesting by DoraLives · · Score: 3, Insightful
    The expected failure rate on that system they're supposed to wheel out in a few years is going to be high

    Concur.

    and if it's anything like the systems that shot down the Iranian airliner "by mistake", it only has to fail once for this rocket guy to skydie.

    Count on it to fail at least twice.

    Failure number one: Mistaken identity is made, live fire at Rocket Guy.

    Failure number two: The fucking thing misses Rocket Guy cleanly and then goes on to take out a 757 minding its own business at 45,000 feet, two states over.

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  19. Off topic drift, but... by DoraLives · · Score: 2, Interesting
    that reminds me of the time I met an elderly German gentleman while working as the desk clerk in a local motel.

    Seems as if he only had one leg.

    Turns out he was a ME163 pilot and lost the leg to a young man flying a Spitfire who managed to hit him and blow his leg off in the process, but not quite take his Komet out of the sky.

    My elderly friend said getting shot with the 50 calibre through the upper leg knocked him unconcious.

    So consider what ensued: You wake up in agony, only to look down and see that one of your legs no longer belongs to you. You then notice you're piloting a heavily damaged airplane. You further surmise that your airplane has no fuel (Komet's shot their wad and coasted back to earth) and no landing gear (Komet's landed on a sort of skid). Now get the damned plane back on the ground to a dead stick landing without finishing off either the plane or yourself.

    Radical dude, radical!

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  20. Re:What About the Guy W/Balloons and a Lawn Chair? by ptbarnett · · Score: 2, Informative
    Wasn't there some guy a some years ago who tied a bunch of helium balloons to his lawn chair and soon found himself a few miles high?

    Yes:

    http://www.snopes.com/spoons/noose/balloon.htm

  21. Re:Mountian Launch? by grozzie2 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Most launches are to an orbit that is not a polar orbit, so, they tend to launch eastbound, to gain the extra little push in that direction from the rotation of the earth.

    When choosing a launch location, a very significant factor is the downrange property damage considerations. Since modern rockets tend to be devices that explode on a fairly regular basis, and they do so when travelling at very high speed, there is a very high likelihood of high velocity 'junk' impacting downrange of the launch point.

    With that in mind, the ideal launch location is atop a 60,000 foot mountain located on the equator, with little/no population base for a couple thousand miles eastbound of the launch location. There is no such location on earth, so, most launches happen from a 'compromise' location. The us government long ago deemed the safety factor of launching over the ocean was worth more than the cost savings of a high altitude launch location.

    Payloads headed to a polar orbit tend to have slightly different dynamics associated, and the initial launch vector is actually somewhat westbound, to offset the rotation of the earth. An ideal location would be a high peak located exactly 'on the pole', where there is no velocity penalty from the earths rotation. Altho the southern polar region does have such locations, the logistics of launching from there turn out to be more expensive than spending a little more on the launch vehicle, and launching it from home. US military payloads destined for a polar orbit tend to depart terra firma from Vandenberg, where the initial westbound vector will indeed take em out over the water again.

    In both cases, the potential for downrange impact damage outweighs the cost savings achievable from a high altitude launch location. Conscious decisions were made in selecting launch locations where politics and impact potential outweighed launch efficiencies. Politics said it had to be within the lower 48, impact potential said it had to have a downrange pointed out over the water.

    From an engineering perspective, high up in the mountains of Hawaii would be a much more efficient launch location. It has the benefit of altitude, the downrange ocean, and provides every major airport on the west coast as a 'launch abort alternate landing location'. In the real world though, the logistics of transporting all launch hardware out to that location will cost more than the savings incurred, so the point becomes academic. Still, remembering the issues of weight control during the construction of the initial apollo moon landing hardware, cant help but wonder how much more could have been done if the Saturn 5 was launched high atop the mountains of Hawaii. I'm sure that would have increased the available moon orbit throw weight by a few thousand pounds.

  22. Re:hydrogen peroxide by Tmack · · Score: 2, Informative
    Most of his suppliers IIRC had a stipulation that stated they would not attempt to concentrate the peroxide. He does have one guy distilling some 90%, but it is taking alot of time to get any significant quantity. They have also been having a good bit of success using just the 50% and have been experimenting alot with that. 50% would be a better alternative if they can get it to perform well, its easier to get, less dangerous than 90% and probably less expensive. The only drawback is that it isnt quite as powerfull, and is taking alot of R&D time to get it working well.

    Tm

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  23. Not crazy. by docbrown42 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Rich people and their crazy ideas...

    Only poor people are crazy. Rich people are excentric!

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