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Yet Another Big Solar Flare

philthedrill writes "CNN is reporting that the sun has fired another large solar flare towards Earth. This one could arrive as early as Thursday (Oct. 30th) afternoon. (insert end-of-the-world statement here)."

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  1. *Yawn* by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Who Cares. I mean after awhile this becomes so boring. Jesus can't we pick on SCO today.

  2. It's those damn aliens by Phoenix-kun · · Score: 4, Funny

    pumping our sun to supernova so they can power their lightsails to the next star system.

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    1. Re:It's those damn aliens by aliens · · Score: 5, Funny

      Stop blaming your pollution woes on us!

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  3. one quote... by kisrael · · Score: 5, Funny

    "I have not seen anything like it in my entire career as a solar physicist. The probability of this happening is so low that it is a statistical anomaly."

    You know, 'statistical anomaly' is NOT what I want to hear from solar physicists about my particular sun.

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    1. Re:one quote... by E-Rock · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While that probably is true, that doesn't mean that he has any freaking clue what is going on inside the sun. Bad analogy: A moron is more developed than an idiot, but neither one has much of a clue.

  4. Any effects on humans at all? by freeze128 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Do these flares affect humans (or even wildlife) at all? You know, even if it is the same way that pets can sense when an earthquake is about to happen....

    1. Re:Any effects on humans at all? by e4liberty · · Score: 4, Informative

      I heard on NPR last night that an X class CME has the effect of about "10 dental X-rays" on folks flying in airplanes over the poles. I guess the magnetic field lines make the poles the most vulnerable area, and at higher altitudes there is less atmosphere for protection.

  5. Tinfoil hats by Eric(b0mb)Dennis · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, will tinfoil hats protect us from onslaught of solar flares? i have a whole stockpile.. $5.99 a piece, message me for details!

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  6. right about now by zephc · · Score: 5, Funny

    a kid in rural Kansas is accidentally throwing a tractor a half mile from his farm.

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    1. Re:right about now by Santos+L.+Halper · · Score: 5, Funny

      I've loved in the shower, and my bedroom, but I must admit, I've never loved in Rural Kansas.

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    2. Re:right about now by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Funny

      "I've loved in the shower, and my bedroom, but I must admit, I've never loved in Rural Kansas."

      I've loved in rural Kansas. Even experimented with tropical oils. Can't wait to try it with a partner!

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  7. Pity by nepheles · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's a pity that more people don't get to view these phenomena, because of modern light pollution. How many people are losing awe-inspiring sights, such as this and the milky-way?

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    1. Re:Pity by jandrese · · Score: 3, Funny

      Er, to see the solar flare you would have to look directly at the Sun. Modern light pollution is not going to be a big concern. Needless to say, for your own safety, please only do this at night.

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  8. Halloween is going to be killer by orn · · Score: 5, Funny

    Pun intended.

    This could shape up to be a really amazing Halloween. For some reason, that 80's movie about Halley's comet's tail intersecting the earth and making zombies out of everyone that wasn't in a lead-lined room comes to mind. I, for one, will welcome our new zombie overlord masters. :-)

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  9. We don't know squat. by RobertB-DC · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the article:
    Space weather forecasters say this spate of strong solar flares is not consistent with normal solar behavior. The sun, which follows an 11-year activity cycle, has been quieting down since the last peak in 2000.

    Although we humans have been looking at the sun since before we climbed out of the trees (and our moms have been telling us not to even longer), it's almost silly to say that any observation of our local star is "not consistent with normal solar behavior." Just how many of those 11-year cycles have been recorded?

    If the ancient Chinese were using pinhole solar viewers to count sunspots for the past 5000 years, that would be one thing. But as has been posted in every Slashdot story on the subject, we have maybe 200 years of scientific data (of varying quality) out of the sun's five billion year history. Even W's pollsters would tell you that sample size is too small.

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    1. Re:We don't know squat. by son_of_asdf · · Score: 4, Informative

      We actually have access to many thousands of years worth of climactic data, thanks to extracted ice cores, data from the ocean floor, and an number of other sources. For starters, have a look at The Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute's website for more information on the subject.

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  10. Re:The Sun is firing at us? by Kusanagi · · Score: 3, Funny
    Why do I suddenly feel like making backups of all my important data... and why do I think it will be of absolutely no use at all?!

    Is that "no use at all" like the pre-Y2K world-coming-to-an-end kinda way, or like the post-Y2K lot-of-hoopla-over-nothing kinda way?

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  11. My server is safe by phorm · · Score: 4, Funny

    I've coated the whole motherboard with SPF-50 sunblock. Ain't none of that darn sun radiation gonna get my computer.

    If anyone needs me I'll be out back holding my hotdog-on-a-stick up real high...

    p.s. Anyone else smell coconut burning?

  12. Smallville reference by AKAImBatman · · Score: 3, Funny

    > (insert end-of-the-world statement here)

    Or at least the end of my superpowers! Somebody saaaavveee mmmeeeee...

  13. Self-evident reporting by Zathrus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Best headline I saw on these was on MSNBC Wednesday. My wife told me about it, but I went and confirmed myself:

    Space Storm hits; Earth Survives

    Which, of course, is amazing news and you certainly wouldn't have known if the alternative had occurred.

    I'd provide a link, but like most of the online news outlets they readily change story headlines and content throughout the day. It's completely different now and talks about the current state and the upcoming flare output tomorrow (Friday).

  14. Ah, solar flares by Digital+Dharma · · Score: 5, Funny

    The Ultimate Slashdotting.

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  15. Re:Another one (story, not flare)? by duber007 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The peak in the current cycle was a few years back....see the NOAA's SolarCycle page Considering it's an 11 year cycle, we are supposed to be on the downswing right now....also, don't forget that we're now at two major storms in the last few days, emmenating from two massive (and still growing) sunspots on the surface of the sun...so, I would call this something extraordinary.

  16. Statistical anomaly? More like a bad model by fname · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I read this line, "I have not seen anything like it in my entire career as a solar physicist. The probability of this happening is so low that it is a statistical anomaly.", I cringed. Either a) This guy thinks his model is great & really believes that this is a 1/1,000,000,000 event, or b) he knows that this indicates a whole in his model, but the reporter ripped the quote out of context to make the story more sensational.

    A little statistics primer is in order. In order to quote odds on anything, a statistician needs a model, generally based on existing data. When there is an event that's off the charts, it will usually indicate to the scientist (or engineer) that there is a deficiency in their model (or their process is out of control, for manufacturing types). If I were a solas scientist, this event would indicate to me that the model is not adequate for predicting this sort of thing. Which makes sense, since we probably only have 40 years worth of data; you expect to be thrown a curve-ball every now and then.

    So I doubt it really is a statistical anomanly; maybe these solar-flare pairs occur every 50 years or so & that's why we haven't seen it before. But either the reporter needs to better explain the meaning of the quote, or the quotee needs to take a basic course on the limits of statistical probability.

  17. Vancouver cleared up!!! by ashitaka · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It was cloudy and raining when I posted the last time.

    However it cleared up by evening. I was working late keeping an eye on the Real-Time Aurora Map which was looking pretty quiet when all of a sudden almost the entire northern hemisphere is coverd in a big red circle.

    Went outside and sure enough, the Northern sky is aglow in blue and red.

    Very cool.

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  18. Great CNN Headline by Buskaatt · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sun delivers yet another shot at Earth

    In other news, President George W. Bush as extended the Axis of Evil to include the Sun. "This supposed ally has been flexing its nucular [sic] muscles without U.N. oversight for generations. While small infractions can be overlooked, a direct strike at the U.S. will not be ignored."

  19. California Fires and Sunspots by mo · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One interesting effect from the fires in California (specifically San Diego) is that the smoke has made it very easy to view the sun. Since the smoke has been so dense, the sun has appeared as this rich red-orange disc in the sky, with little dark dots on it where the solar flares are. I wish I had taken a picture, but I'm sure somebody can dig one up on google.

  20. Magnetic North shifts 5 This morning by tonywestonuk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    According to the BBC, magnetic north varied by 5 degrees in 25mins starting from 0830 GMT, as the storm swept passed us.

  21. one simpsons quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    lets burn down the observatory so that this never happens again!

  22. It's those damn aliens = reference explained by Starlet+Monroe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For those of you wondering, this is a reference to Larry Niven's "The Fourth Profession". This is considered one of Niven's best short works.
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    An interstellar trading ship arrived in the moon's orbit two years ago, and the few aliens who have descended to Earth have stayed in their landing craft or at the United Nations building in New York City. When one of the aliens unexpectedly shows up in a Los Angeles tavern, bartender Ed Frazer awakes the next morning with the strangest hangover of his life. Ed barely remembers taking the pills offered by the alien; each pill flooding his brain with the knowledge of an alien profession ... spaceship captain ... teleporter .... translator ... but Ed can't remember how many pills he took, or if the confusing overload of information in his head shadows the terrible secret of their mission.

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  23. major dilemma! by Tumbleweed · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does this mean I should repent for my sins, or do a lot of sinning while there's still time?

    Things that make you go "Hmmm..."

  24. Re:The Sun is firing at us? by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Why do I suddenly feel like making backups of all my important data..."

    Yeah I backed up my porn collection too.

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  25. Re:Can plasma change Earth's orbit? by tomem · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There isn't enough force developed to make a perceptible change in our orbit, even over geologic time.

    However, hundreds of tons of our upper atmosphere is ejected into space and, to some degree, carried off downstream in the solar wind, during these events. So, a small part of our planet has it's orbit profoundly altered by these events. The loss rate is modest and partly compensated by acquired material from dust and meteorites. But this could influence atmospheric composition over geologic time. The plume coming from Venus has been detected near Earth.

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