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Man Arrested in Australia Over Nigerian E-mail Scam
slasher_14 writes "A 39 year old Sydney man has been arrested over the Nigerian Scam. Simultanious raids were conducted in two homes by police, who siezed computers and documents.
Over the last 6 months, Australian police have tracked about 1.5 million dollars. The man faces Dubbo Local court today, charged with 17 offenses." Hopefully this means my inbox will be seeing less of these e-mails.
It's so nice to see that governments and police forces are finally able to catch up to these kinds of spammers and criminals to get them out of my damned inbox. I almost wonder if it wouldn't be cool for a Internet task force to be developed, completely divorced from any government that would try to track these kinds of people down and turn them in to local authorities. Any volunteers?
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Dean Cameron's Nigerian Scam Scam
http://www.deancameron.com/nigeria.htm
I got this email this morning...
...[bulk edited out - you get the idea] ... earning additional income, I will not waste your time. Remember, it won't cost
you a dime to check us out...sure might cost you an absolute fortune not to! http://www.ProTravelBiz.com Sincerely Robert Holman
Hello,Previously you had requested some information online in regards to potentially earning additional income from home.Our company Travelogia(one of the fastest growing companies in North America) has
it was from "abeulicnta@ebay.com" <ihmribcyph@sina.com> which is messed up because it's like a fake email within a fake email. Of course, it was formatted the same way you see here, no correct breaks or anything. Anyway, I go look up the website name on register.com's WHOIS feature. (Note: I had to hit refresh several times before I got more than a 'timeout') Well, this is what I got! (in the form of a gif image, go figure)
Organization:
Robert L. Holman II
Robert Holman II
4617 E Holiday Estate Court
Granbury, TX 76049
US
Phone: (817) 326-6107
Fax..: (817) 326-5066
Email: Robert@Robert-Holman.com
Registrar Name....: enom.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.enom.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.enom.com
Domain Name: PROTRAVELBIZ.COM
Created on............: Mon, Oct 27, 2003 [Note the very recent creation date]
Expires on............: Wed, Oct 27, 2004
Record last updated on: Mon, Oct 27, 2003
etc, etc...
So I called him, apparently at his house, judging by the unceremonious, 'yeah this is Robert' answer. I confirmed it was Robert Holman and then proceeded to tell him I did not appreaciate his SPAM and he needed to at least put an opt out and use his real email address on the return. He stammered as he tried to tell me he could prove I 'opted-in' which is total bullshit. I told him if I got any more mail from him I was going to sue him.
So, my fellow SPAM-hating brethren and sistren, use WHOIS on register.com to fight back at these jerks.
I also used WHOIS to find out who was sending me bogus eBay login screens.
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My friend's grandmother has this neighbor who was sort of the neighborhood whacko (schizophenia, medicated) He lived with his dad up until the time his father died and the estate was split up amungst the surviving siblings.
Well, he had a trusting nature about him, almost anyone could be his friend. Since he had been a roadie for many bands (Grateful Dead, Fleetwood Mac to name a few) for the price of getting him stoned you could listen to him go on for hours about his days as a roadie, while you fished out of his carp stocked green algae swimming pool. Although he was crazy, he was a fun guy to be around if you had a few hours to kill.
So here he was with all this money from his families estate. The house was sold, so he bought himself a luxery van to live out of. The rest of the money he put into money market accounts and had planned to live out the rest of his days cruising to concerts and playing his guitar out of the back of his van.
Tradgedy struck when the nigerian e-mail scam hit his inbox. He fell for it hook line and sinker. After arranging with the english accennted guy on the other end of the phone line, they agreed to meet in amsterdam to facilitate the transfer of funds (which was through cashiers check)
Even after he got off the phone, even when he was going to the bank, even when he stepped off the plane his sanity nagged, no pleaded with him "This is a scam Kim, please just go home". Sanity had never gotten him anywhere so he just ignored it.
He met the guy at some cannibus club, and after a few nice bowls of fine green, his sanity returned to his subconciousness, where it layed dormant most of the time. He handed the man the cashier check for $200,000 with full confidence he was doing the smart thing with his money.
Once returning to the states he tried dialing the number the man had given him, disconnected. He tried the e-mail address, no reply. 3 months after he had pissed away $200,000 on a cashier check and a handshake, he finally told his friends what had happened.
I posted this somewhere before on the nigerian scam, a lot of people responded "Serves him right for being stupid with his money" I don't agree with them though. We're talking about a guy with the emotional maturity of a 9 year old.
The same mentality that would perform this scam on weak minded and lonely adults is the same mentality that would take advantage of a little kid. Spare me the "Theives code of honor" I hope this guy gets life.
And the fact that the organization holding the ".org" domain (ISOC) is completely unwilling to chase down .org spammers, scammers and sleazeballs is all the more annoying. Their response to me
when I tried to complain about a spammer using a .org domain (with no whois info) as a hideyhole was (in essence) "Yes, we want the .org domain to be for non profits and the like, but we won't do anything about it, no matter how nasty the people are who are using the name."
Great post. People often say "you'd have to be insane to fall for that" or "you'd have to be an idiot to fall for that", and it may well be true. It would certainly explain the popularity of spamming and scamming.
There are plenty of people out there with Downs Syndrome or a low IQ or a mental illness thats make them gullible, and some percentage of them must have access to the internet.
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Send me $50.00 and I'll explain it to you.
Now, if you spent even 0.5 seconds thinking about that, then you're starting to get into range.
Remember that these people work off of statistics. Regular scams, that take in $20-100 each only need 1/20,000 emails to catch a sucker to win. Nigerian scams make more money, so they really only need to catch someone with something like 1 in a couple million emails.
Now, if you don't think that there's anyboy with money who isn't willing to throw it someplace stupid go check out how SCO's stock is doing. Then think back to the dotcom boom when people were puting out business plans that essentially said "We're going to buy goods and sell them on the internet below cost", and still managed to get $5Million is seed capital.
If that doesn't work, there was the (brain-dead) secretary who thought that her boss would be so proud of her if she managed to make $6M with a 'simple' investment of $5,000. By the time the company auditors caught up with her she was in over her head to the tune of a couple hundred thousand dollars.
Of course, once you get someone like this, then you can really turn up the screws....
Dear Sir:
I'm a private investigator who has been looking into some shady dealings by a Mr. Mubaque in Nigeria. In investigating his crimes, I have determined that he has suckered you to the tune of $20,0000. Be aware that you are probably one of hundreds that he has scammed like this but I have only been able to determine the identity of you and 5 others.
I am very close to collecting enough evidence to put this bastard behind bars and recover the money he has scammed. My current investigations indicate that he has at least $8million in 12 bank accounts spread around the world. A successful prosecution against him would allow us to recover about 2/3 of this ammount ($5.3million). half of this ammount would be split between his victims and half ($2.65Million) would go to us as the principle investigators
Unfortunately, we are running short of funds to complete our investigation. Thus we come to you with this proposition:
If you would agree to support us in our investigation, we would be willing to share the reward with you on an equitable basis. After subtracting costs, we would be willing to share 1/3 (apx $700,000) with you as a benefactor.
This income would be completely legitimate, and we believe that we could put it under your control in a completely tax-free manner. If you are interested in this proposal please write me back. A very rapid response is needed, or we will lose our trail.
Sincerely.
Ura Looser, Private investigator.
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I don't think you understand the depth of the problem. The people who "fall for" the 419 scam are almost certainly well aware that it's a scam, and they participate in hopes of scamming someone *else*. Remember the person who embezzeled from her company to fund a 419 trick? I'm betting she knew it was a scam the entire time, but somehow saw the whole thing as a means to an end of scamming someone else (maybe trying to proxy and embezzlement so that it looked like the "Nigerian" was responsible?)
I wonder how many people who follow through on these things are actually using it as a means to ripoff someone else, perhaps trying to make the victim appear so stupid that he won't report the theft...
Or maybe there *are* people who are actually stupid enough to really fall for 419. I'd say anyone THAT foolish would have been parted from his money long before now, and scams don't enter into it. No, I suspect there's more to the story, and I really do imagine that people see the 419 scam as an opportunity to play middleman and quietly funnel some money into their own pocket while connecting an unsuspecting victim to a blatant scammer. Maybe they think all the noise will be at the ends of the link, and the small change they grabbed in the middle will go unnoticed? I hope it's something like that. If there are that many people with money who are that stupid, I need to be thinking of legal, ethical ways of relieving them of some of it.
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this 'nigerian spam' idea has appeared in other forms as well.
i'm trying to sell my car and posted it on a few free car sales websites. so far, i've received 4 of emails exactly like this:
"We have a client who is interested in purchasing
your ( 2000 vw gti vr6 glx ) for the price of $( 14,500 ).Please forward me your final asking price "
of course, i then reply with the price confirmation, but then i get this:
"Hello,
Thanks a lot for your mail and the information, also for all your efforts towards making this transaction a success, i really love it and wish to buy as soon as possible. Anyway, this is how we are going to seal this transaction there is an associate of mine in the US who is owing me $19,800 i am going to instruct him to send you a cashier's check for that amount,and when it clears your bank you can now send my balance by Westernunion. Although i know that the value of the check is more than the price of the 2000 VW GTI VR6 GLX, but i am willing to trust you with my balance So if this offer is acceptable to you,let me have your contact information so that i can instruct my associate to send you a check,that is your name,address and phone number Please get back to me as soon as soon as you get this mail so that i can know your decision regards this transaction. I am banking on my balance so that i will be able to settle my shippers here in there local office because it is cheaper and faster.My regards to the family
Banks"
so this scam basically falls upon the same principle. obviously we all know where this is going, but i decide to play along anyway and sent him a bogus PO box to send the check to.
the next email was this:
"Thanks so much for the mail and the rightful information. Anyway, i just want you to know that what is required is your physical address and phone number, so as to deliver the payment to you in person. So, do well to let me have your Full name, physical address and phone number, in order to get the payment to you as soon as possible. And what do you mean by "terrifc deal"?. Waiting to hear back from you soon. Thank you and God bless.
Regards
Banks"
my question: why does he need my physical address and phone number? it's obvious at this point he will let me know about some snag and that i need to send him some money for whatever reason.
on a side note, i am selling my Volkswagen GTI VR6 GLX if anyone is interested.
so, people selling their autos online, be wary of this scam.
More info on the Nigerian scam at Snopes.