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MTV Getting into Music Download Business

Pranjal writes "According to this article at Economic Times, MTV is getting into the music download business. MTV chief Tom Freston announced on Monday, the service would debut within the first half of next year. Looks like the online music download business is heating up."

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  1. I'm from Saint Louis, and I've never said "herre" by sweeney37 · · Score: 4, Funny

    seeing how this is MTV, this really should be:

    "from the getting-crowded-in-her r e dept."

    Mike

  2. Pity the RIAA by SMOC · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I really do feel bad for the RIAA members (not the RIAA itself). They are stuck having to eventually face the fact that they are 80% of the way to extinction. Can anyone realy imagine a future 50 years down the road where anyone is interested in buying a piece of plastic with music on it?

    Yes, storing it in a way that does not rot too fast or get deleted for video game space is valuable, but I see the future retailers of music being the clubs that host musicians. They should strike a deal with the performers that they host to sell the music via a Web site and via a kiosk at the show.

    Here's one business model for that:

    Club makes USB-fobs that contain the customer's name, credit info (or a key that they look up the credit info in their database with) and email address. The customer goes to a show and likes it, so they walk over to the kiosk and plug in their fob to order the "album" on the way out. The kiosk notes the purchase in the database and sends email to the customer with a link to download the music from the Web site.

    Quick, easy, and here's the best part: you don't care about file-swappers because you get the customer at the exact point where they decide they like the music. You don't care if the 5 billion people who never come to your club swap this music around. What you care about is that your club (and the artist who gets a cut) made some extra money from a customer. You win, they win and the band wins.

    But, I still feel bad for the labels who are doomed because they can't make a "star" anymore out of some semi-talented performer who they can stick on MTV. Or more to the point, they can make the star, but there's soon going to be no point in terms of selling CDs.

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    1. Re:Pity the RIAA by Golias · · Score: 5, Insightful
      Can anyone realy imagine a future 50 years down the road where anyone is interested in buying a piece of plastic with music on it?

      Electronic transmission of text has been easilly available for several decades now, yet people still buy stacks of paper with words printed on them.

      As long as owning an album one a removable storage media means actually owning that copy, people like me will pay for it when the music is good enough to be worth buying.

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    2. Re:Pity the RIAA by TopShelf · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There's a major difference between music and text, however - people greatly prefer reading newspapers or books because of portability, legibility, etc. By comparison, there is little or no difference between listening to a music CD and music stored in some other medium like a HD or Flash card. Once they resolve the licensing issues this will become a no-brainer. It sounds like iTunes is making good progress on that front...

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    3. Re:Pity the RIAA by timeOday · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Can anyone realy imagine a future 50 years down the road where anyone is interested in buying a piece of plastic with music on it?
      Electronic transmission of text has been easilly available for several decades now, yet people still buy stacks of paper with words printed on them.
      Is that a good example? 100 years ago newspaper WAS the media - the papers were to be feared. The movie "Citizen Kane" is about a newspaper baron. Today there is hardly such thing as a "newspaper baron," the business is hardly hip or profitable. This not where the music industry wants to go!

      Anyways, just look how the napster craze hit music... not books, or music, or anything else. Even if we can't agree on an explanation for that, music is obviously in a uniquely vulnerable position.

  3. MTV and music? by mckeowbc · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought they only showed crappy shows like "Made" and "Road Rules". Since when has MTV been about music?

  4. Video etc by squaretorus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Music download is all well and good, but I wish this new stack of legit music download services would offer me the video of these songs (if available).

    Some bands, Beasti Boys, Super Furries and Moloko jump to mind, really put some effort into their videos. MTV would be well placed to offer this as a USP for a while, probably having better deals and leverage than anyone in that area.

    Charge me more or throw it in as an incentive I dont mind - just give me the option!

    1. Re:Video etc by BWJones · · Score: 5, Interesting

      MTV dropped the ball big time and they should have seen the writing on the wall as soon as Apple released iTMS. Besides, I spent some time watching MTV a couple weeks ago and all the music they were playing was "do me baby rap" and commercials. I remember when MTV first started out when they billed themselves as 24 hour commercial free music. Nah, MTV has lost this game. Apple is ideally situated to provide just this sort of music video service. They already have the infrastructure in place to deliver movie previews (and have had for some time), and have been interested in expanding the content available to folks who are interested in downloading music with album covers etc....

      The other thing I would like access to with the music is lyrics, liner notes etc... My guess is that all of this is coming.

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    2. Re:Video etc by DrEldarion · · Score: 4, Informative

      There are actually a bunch of sites online that you can watch music videos on - they don't offer downloads usually, but you can watch them.

      This site comes up first on a search on Google, and a whole bunch more.

  5. This just in: MTV sucks more soul from humanity by sielwolf · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Well I thought they might've been slacking since they are only starting up a magazine (print) and selling mp3 players (electronics) after already cornering the market on useless musical merchandise. Even an ex-Road Rules contestant and ex-FOX News reporter is lead on that new morning show, Cold Pizza, on ESPN2. They are seriously becoming an omni-brand intent on a flat-entertainment experience.

    Not like most people would notice any difference...

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  6. The article's *really* light on specifics by mattbot+5000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I learned two things:

    - MTV's music download service will "compete with iTunes and everyone else"

    AND

    - "MTV will also be competing with a relaunched Napster and recently launched BuyMusic.com"

    Wait, make that three things: there's no way to get back the five minutes I spent reading that article.

  7. The more the merrier... by trix_e · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It'll be interesting to see how long it is before music download services become completely commoditized. They're already dangerously close to that now. The 'goods' they sell are roughly equivalent between services, the breadth of selection, and the restrictiveness of the DRM being the two areas of differentiation I can see.

    Don't know how much the RIAA will let these guys loosen up the DRM, and the catalogs look pretty equivalent and will become increasingly so IMO, so all that's left is price.

    I'm guessing Amazon will jump in soon as well. They've got the traffic to drive sales, all other things being equal.

    It'll be interesting to see where the cost per song/album comes out. iTunes is promoting an upcoming promotion (don't think about that too much) with Pepsi, where some of the prizes are iTunes downloads. I don't know the specifics, but that certainly looks like it holds promise -- advertising subsidized downloads.

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    1. Re:The more the merrier... by thryllkill · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I am not so interested in how things turn out as long as two things remain the same. Emusic.com sticks to a flat $9.99 a month fee providing me with a large selection of indie music (their selection has gotten a little "lighter" recently e.g. where are all the F.Y.P. records they used to have?) and IRC trading stays strong.

      emusic is the best example of legal audio downloads. I don't pay something silly like $0.99 a song. I pay 10 bucks a month, and have unlimited downloads. Yes I don't get the new NSync albums and stuff, but I do get access to an ever expanding catalogue of independent music, which IMHO is better than most pop dreck.

      Also (I believe, I haven't read my user agreement recently, and those things do change) there are no restrictions on the mp3s I download. No direct to cd burning. If I want to make a ton of mix cds with the tracks I get, go me. Scratch one up? Burn it again. If you download just one cd a month, you still save 5-10 bucks. I download several a week, so I have saved a ton of money, found bands I would have never gotten a chance to listen to (most of which you can't even find on Kazaa) and most importantly, my 10 bucks is not getting into Metallica or Dr Dre's pockets (or whoever has their panties in a twist about mp3s this week).


      No I do not work for Emusic, and if stuff like emusic and kazaa (k-lite, which ever doesn't have all the spyware) ever get shut down, well, I'll go back to IRC and see how they are doing.

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  8. But wait a minute... by GTRacer · · Score: 4, Funny
    Won't the service only be available from about 11pm to 10am? Since the rest of the time the only downloads will be Real World/Road Rules and "Real Life - I'm a Hacker" eps...

    GTRacer
    - Commercial entertainment quality is teh suck.

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  9. Please MTV please by L-s-L69 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1. Have mp3s to download not wma rubbish
    2. Be cheap
    3. Let people in the UK use it please!
    4. Have a mix
    5. Dont just market it at helpless teeny boppers
    6. Please, pretty please

  10. I smell by jlechem · · Score: 5, Funny

    another .com bust in the making.

    Threadkilling since 1992

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  11. It will never fly... by phillymjs · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Here's why: the iPod.

    The iPod has serious street cred (and market share) amongst MTV-watching teens. For MTV to make their service acceptable to the record companies, it will have to have ham-handed, crippling DRM. For MTV to make their service successful, they'll have to make it work with the iPod, arguably the most popular/cool MP3 player amongst their viewers (I mean, OMG, 50 Cent had one in his video!!!)

    Without both sides of that above equation in place, the service will be a failure right out of the gate. And with the iTMS now available for Windows, it's not in Apple's interest to assist a third-party music service by making the iPod work with it. People will have a more seamless experience with their iPods if they just stick with the iTMS, and Apple will make a few more bucks out of it that way.

    So, the MTV online music service is analogous to a racehorse that drops dead while being walked to the starting gate.

    ~Philly

  12. RIAA by Jonathan+Platt · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't know why everyone thinks this is a victory against the RIAA. Really this is a victory for them as well. They are there to support the recording industry, so that they have the ability to charge for the property they so rightfully own. It really doesn't matter how.

    RIAA has supported this idea from the start, but as so many of you selectively note the RIAA is not a company. They can not start there own venture, only attempt to stop illegal ones; which is why they should and will continue to shutdown illegal P2P activity.

    Due to the lower price of distribution, imports, exports, tariffs etc. this method of providing music should stop the whiners, because now they have access to music at an affordable price, and should have no need for illegal P2P.

    So everyone wins. Well everyone who isn't solely driven by greed at least, and will continue to use the substandard illegal P2P programs.

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  13. MTV - Here is a clue by Glonoinha · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There are a zillion places to download music in MP3 (or whatever) form, iTunes being legal to boot.

    That niche is being served.

    MTV didn't get to where it got by playing music, they got to where they are by playing MUSIC VIDEOS. So put all the videos (particularly the old school stuff) up for purchase as downloads and use a decent codec that doesn't require a spyware laced install on the client.

    Damn, I should patent that.

    We already have MP3s. Sell us MPGs of the music videos.

    This clue brought to you by the number 4 and the letter V.

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