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Novell Announces Agreement to Acquire SUSE

Mickey Hill writes "Novell today announced it has entered into an agreement to acquire SUSE LINUX, one of the world's leading enterprise Linux companies, expanding Novell's ability to provide enterprise-class services and support on the Linux platform. Novell expects the transaction to close by the end of its first fiscal quarter (January 2004). This latest move follows Novell's August purchase of Ximian."

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  1. Webcast by argonaut · · Score: 5, Informative

    It looks like there is a web cast at 11 AM EST. Perhaps we will learn some useful information on what Novell is planning.
    http://www.novell.com/webcast

  2. The pressing issue: by curtisk · · Score: 5, Funny

    will Novell make their SuSE distro contain the infamous PHASERS.WAV and the FIRE PHASERS as part of the login?

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    1. Re:The pressing issue: by BrokenHalo · · Score: 5, Insightful
      the Red Hat evil empire

      Err, not quite. While I am not a devotee of RedHat as a distro, I think it's a bit unfair to dub them "evil" when they have actually put a lot of manpower into products that have been released into the public domain free of charge.

      While it's not precisely altruism, they have contributed a lot to the Linux user community, and to deny that is churlish.

      Save the epithets for the real baddies in Redmond.

    2. Re:The pressing issue: by roystgnr · · Score: 5, Informative

      The second cool thing is that all of a sudden there is a viable alternative to the Red Hat evil empire.

      Suggested activities for while you wait for the alternative:

      1. Go download free Red Hat .ISOs, which include all the software Red Hat develops under an open source license.

      2. Go figure out why you can't download free SuSE .ISOs including YaST.

      3. Find some more appropriate "evil empire" (I'm afraid the world sucks enough that neither Red Hat nor SuSE should be very high on your list) to redirect your indignation towards.

    3. Re:The pressing issue: by ahillen · · Score: 5, Informative

      Sorry, I also wish I had my mod points:

      - Yast is not closed source, you get the source with every SUSE distro, you can change it, you can even redistribute the changes, as long as you mark 'your' yast version as a modified version. The restrictions are, that you are not allowed sell(!) your modified program, while on the other hand SUSE is allowed to incorporate your changes into their next version
      (for reference, type 'yast license' into google, for me it was the 5th link)

      - SUSE doesn't have a 100$ user licens (not even one you could put into quotations), because
      (a) SUSE Professional is only $79.95
      (b) you could also buy the update version for $49.95
      (c) you can install for free (modulo your internet connection costs) over FTP
      (d) you can legaly copy the CDs from somebody else
      The fact that the ISOs are not publically available from the net is something which I don't considere as positive, but it still doesn't make you assertions true

  3. Hmm by epiphani · · Score: 5, Insightful

    two possible results:

    1. Novell stuffs this up, and I'm left with no real "Free" solution for buisnesses (I dont care about support, I just want a brand name and is recognizable and usable).

    2. Novell doesnt stuff it up, and SUSE takes over Redhat's market share here in north america.

    Either way, linux growth is going to stop dead for a good chunk of time while these issues with Redhat and Suse settle down.

    After yesterdays' article regarding Redhat's changes, I started looking at SUSE more carefully. Now we've got such serious flux in the two most important linux distributions that it'll take six months to a year before I feel comfortable pitching either of these to buisnesses.

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    1. Re:Hmm by bruthasj · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Either way, linux growth is going to stop dead for a good chunk of time while these issues with Redhat and Suse settle down.

      Puhhleeze. Please stop the /. cronyism, fanaticism, and sensationalism. It's getting quite stale in here and it makes the web log stink.

      I'm running short on time, so I'm going to let the moderators mark me as Troll as I don't have 30 links to back up these statements. But, I'm pretty sure that:

      1. Linux, the kernel, will see continuing development without care towards Suse or Redhat.
      2. GNU is still going to develop their wonderful tools.
      3. The important projects on sf.net are still moving forward.
      4. There are other distros.
      5. There are many independent parties packaging for Redhat and Suse; nice updates can be obtained from them.

  4. Great timing with respect to Red Hat moves by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Novell/Suse is going to pick up the slack left by Red Hat getting out of the retail market. Very good indeed. Hope Suse is repackaged into the the red and white Novell style. I get the feeling that Red Hat will live to regret abandoning its base.

  5. KDE? by overshoot · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I wonder where this is going to take the desktop.

    Novell apparently is more interested in the Connector than the Ximian desktop, and more interested in SuSE's servers than its desktop offerings. However, SuSE has been a huge backer of the KDE project and Ximian is the home of Gnome. It'll certainly be interesting to see how the Novell management allocates their resources going forward, won't it?

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    1. Re:KDE? by Kur · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Not long after the Ximian acquisition, I attended a presentation by Chris Stone, Novell's vice chairmain (and the real CEO, if not in title), and he made it very clear that Novell was planning a significant push onto the desktop with Linux. He also indicated that Novell was likely to make other Linux purchases. Well, I guess they just did.
      Novell wants to be an end to end solution, from desktop to server to management. He sees Novell's earlier failure stemming from two problems: no developer support and no desktop offering (DR-DOS did not compete with Windows). He sought to rectify the first problem by buying SilverStream, but that wasn't enough. Give him credit for understanding that the real movement is in Open Source and not J2EE. Thus it also made sense to buy Ximian and instantly acquire an open source development base. Next, Novell needed a Linux distro. Again, to his credit, they bought one instead of developing their own. Now, Novell has to tie all of those pieces together.
      What does Novell bring to open source/Linux/etc? A large support, developmnent, and sales organization. Despite the declining marketshare of Netware, there are still many, many enterprises running on Netware and/or using Novell products. Novell's products are not as visible, simply because they're mostly infrastructure. How many people run eDirectory on their desktops? But, how many companies use it for authentication? Novell's taking a different course than IBM and, thus, stands a chance.

  6. Looks like the war is over by BubbaTheBarbarian · · Score: 5, Interesting

    For over three years now the differing factions at Novell have been fighting over which route to take in relation to the what will be the backbone of it's products. The Netware factions has been directly responsible for Novell NOT developing it's own Linux, despite them having their own kernel and distro in house.

    While this move is good for Novell, and good for the community, it has taken way to long in coming. This is partly due to the fact that if Novell HAD gone with Linux three years ago, they would have been the major supplier of the OS right off the bat for IBM, with IBM offering Linux based servers and caching boxes. When Novell dropped the ball, IBM pulled out.

    Another point to make here is what this will do in relationship to SCO. You may well remember the piece a few weeks ago that talked about a statement that Novell made, quietly at the time, that the license that SCO had to sell licenses to UNIX came from them. I would expect a major blowup from SCO in the next few weeks, though do not be suppressed if Canopy decides to kill SCO outright and take the tech into Netware Linux. Canopy waffles more then Clinton at a beach party.

    One other point...I have NEVER seen a machine serve as fast as a Linux box controlling files that are on Netware partitions. Say what you want about Netware being owned, but with the 2.4 kernel and multi-threading issues resolved (another reason why Novell was very hesitant to go with a 2.2 kernel based system) I would expect to see something really good from them in near future.

  7. Re:Can anyone answer this for me: by Ath · · Score: 5, Informative
    I can only remember seeing Novell products in less than a handful of places-- and it was in the process of being removed in those places.

    That's because most people only think of Netware (the server OS) when they hear Novell's name. Take a look at eDirectory (if you use Yahoo's portal, you use eDirectory), DirXML (an amazing XML based directory synchronization tool), ZENworks (client management) and many other products.

    I almost dread every time I see an article on Slashdot about Novell because inevitably people talk about Novell as a dying company.

    Your question about Novell's capital is easy. They are a cash positive company and have remained so during most of their existence. Last I heard about a year ago, they had about $600 million cash in the bank.

    I recommend people who aren't familiar with Novell's product line just go take a look at it. Decide for yourself. I think you will be impressed with what they offer.

  8. Re:Holy shit! by nehril · · Score: 5, Insightful

    novell has a long history of fucking up good ideas. only now, at the end, do they realize what has been kicking their ass: limited APP server offerings.

    Novell is perceived by most of my customers as a (fairly kick ass) file-print-directory services server only system. but file-print-directory services are only part of what companies need these days. they need groupware/email (groupwise is a joke), they need SQL servers, and they need "Micro Vertical App Server" for Their Tiny Industry that somebody in a garage is addressing. And they want it all on the same platform, with integrated authentication.

    small vertical apps is a big one, but it seems to be too much of a bitch to write these VBesque vertical apps on novell, so nobody does. "Small Dentist Office Accounting Pro" gets cooked up on windows by a small software company and not on novell. (incidentally this is a bit of a problem for linux on the desktop front: the crazy apps like "BeeKeeper Ranching and Honey Tracking" are what keep most businesses from switching on the desktop).

    looks like Novell is trying to do what they failed to do with the original Unix license they pissed away: create a Novell branded viable app server platform. they screwed up the first time with proprietary unix. maybe a more open system will succeed, but knowing Novell, probably not.

  9. Re:Novell basically acquired Suse for free... by jazman_777 · · Score: 5, Informative
    So basically, the acquisition of Suse is FREE. Actually, Novell made an extra $300 million in stock value by announcing the deal - so it's better than free.

    Novell pays for SuSE, but they don't get a bunch of cash for stock going up. The stockholders do (if they sell). You're playing a shell game.

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  10. Continuation of Novell's pattern by JonKatzIsAnIdiot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Novell has a history of jumping on every bandwagon at it's peak, then abandoning it when something else comes along. Consider their past:

    1. Buying the AT&T source, then announcing plans to merge NetWare and UNIX into a hybrid called "SuperNOS"

    2. Buying Wordperfect, Quattro Pro and creating WordPerfect Office.

    3. Java-on-NetWare. Anyone remember "the world's fastest Java execution environment"?

    Every one of these failed, and was quietly abandoned. Now it's Linux. Hopefully they actually stick with this initiative long enough for it to bear some fruit.