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Forbes Examines SCO Subpoenas
z4ce writes "It seems that Daniel Lyons of Forbes just wrote yet another article on the IBM vs. SCO law suit. Now, Daniel seems to seeing SCO for the liars they are. One of the choice quotes include, "What's the point of hassling people who make chips and set-top boxes? Don't ask SCO's top execs. They don't know anything about this stuff, remember?""
They clearly stole the idea of chips from SCO! Unix ran on chips before Linux!
has been so low lately, i havent had a good laugh in weeks.
whats wrong daryl? did that iraqi defense minister stop feeding you tips?
turn up the jukebox and tell me a lie
Jeese I'm tired of hearing about SCO.
I wish Moore's law applied to the speed of lawsuits as well.
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Stallman says the Boston-based Free Software Foundation, which he founded in 1985, has nothing to do with SCO's lawsuit. "SCO is suing IBM for violating a contract. We don't even know what the contract said. In terms of the resolution of that lawsuit, the Free Software Foundation is entirely uninvolved," he says.
Holy shit! RMS talked to a member of the press and DIDN'T come off looking like a smug, reality-disconnected jackass!
Truly amazing.
This thought occurred to me:
SCO goes after Linux as a marketing/gain money tool.
They get hated.
Opposing SCO becomes popular.
SCO has just handed people a new marketing tool - oppose/stand up to SCO, get attention, customers, etc.
Though in reflection, their egregeous approach to an unsubstantiated claim was bound to provoke a backlash. And it was bound to be something that people would take advantage of.
Did SCO even see this? My guess, no. They're up their in their own little world.
Even that Forbes reporter could (kind of) tell the difference between GNU/Linux the OS and Linux the kernel ...
Of course the reporter could tell the difference, he had just gotten done interviewing RMS. He probably heard "GNU/Linux" a hundred times in ten minutes.
It seems that SCO is in reality just a service to provide news stories. A really nice written story-generator though, since everybody keeps talking about them. Maybe they have a excellent business consultants...
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Al
Quite a change in tone !
Maybe his last cheque from Darl & co. bounced..
NO, read the article NOW or I PULL THIS TRIGGER.
The clearly stole the idea of unix from chips. Chips weren't running linux before SCO!
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He'd obviously just finished getting an earful on the subject from RMS over the phone when he wrote that...
And the brethren went away edified.
we need to bring in as many people as possible to show how fragmented and uncontrolled Linux Development is .. and to that end, we are going to subpoena people who have nothing to do with Linux kernel development.
Of course, if you look at it crosseyed enough, it starts to make a little sense.. by bringing to the stand people who have nothing to do with it, you make them seem even more fragmented and uncontrolled...
"Mr Stallman, let's talk about the Linux kernel code you contributed.."
"I've never made any contributions to the Linux kernel."
"Ahh - so then let's talk about the code that you didn't contribute, then."
"What?!?!"
"Your Honor, see how fragmented and uncontrolled they are!"
indeed, did you have a point or is your logic inspired by SCO's manner of thought?
...SCO is now suing Forbes.
And I thought that the only major thing that Richard wrote by himself was some dorky editor.
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Quote from the article: "Stallman's GNU/Linux operating system is not the target of SCO's suit. Linux, the program SCO is targeting, is not an operating system, but only the kernel of the GNU/Linux operating system, which could run using a different kernel".
I am concerned about long-term entrenched confusions such as referring to a version of our GNU OS as 'Linux'
Shouldn't that be "GNU/Linux OS"?
*ducks*
One man's -1 Flamebait is another man's +5 Funny.
Sounds like Daniel Lyons sold his SCO stock yesterday...
Your Honor, have you ever noticed how much this man looks like Chewbacca.
This sums it up. SCO is suing IBM for breach of contract, nothing more, nothing less. What dows Linus Torvalds, Richard Stallman et al have to do with this contract? did they sign it?
Reminds me of a car bumper sticker I once saw:
"Protected by Mafia Insurance - You hit us, we hit you."
Dear SCO & Friends,
I understand what you're going through. As an individual, I went through this back in 2001, when the market tanked and I lost my cushy dot-com gig. A lot of companies went through what you're going through, but most of them had the common decency to go quietly and with dignity, rather than hiring lawyers and trying to take a Scorched Earth approach in a last valiant effort to save themselves. Here's a hint: you're not the Soviet Army and Utah isn't Stalingrad.
Let's face it -- your goose is cooked. In an attempt to fill your coffers, you have succeeded in the most perfect execution of Operation: Footbullet since the dying gasps of the dot-coms in 2000-2001. Even if you win, you lose -- you have alienated the one group that you needed to hold on to any sort of market share: the geeks. If, by some stroke of magical luck, bought judge, planetary alignment, or guiding hand of Microsoft, you manage to actually pull this off and have the GPL declared null-and-void and you and your puppeteer, Bill Gates (no doubt, elbow deep in your asses, playing ventriloquist), manage to clean house registering patents and copyrights on works you didn't create, you will have only succeeded in enraging those who are responsible for creating those works. Those creators are people who have a say in what gets purchased at their offices, and I'd be willing to bet that it wouldn't be SCO or M$ (should their complicity in this fiasco be shown to be true and not just educated guesswork).
That said, I'd encourage you to call off the attack dogs. We'll all have a good laugh at your "clever ruse" and share a beer together. Twenty years from now, SCO will be long-gone and irrelevant. God willing, M$ will be gone then, too. And you'll wonder to yourself: what the fuck was I thinking back then?
Think it over. There's more of us than there are of you, ultimately, we, the consumers, control the future of your business. Do you really want to taunt that 800-lb. gorilla? Do you?
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Now you tell me! If nobody cares to explain things how I'm supposed to knew? I thought we were supporting SCO! At the least the faq should tell us "SCO bad, Linux good". Next you will try to make me think that Microsoft is the empire of evil or something.
"I think this line is mostly filler"
Quite possibly, Novell will not be amused. The next logical move by SCO would be to terminate Novell's unix licence. Oh wait...
Umm, hello...FK didn't say he wanted to stop hearing about SCO. He said he wainted one story per day until something happens. That won't solve his problems at all.
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There's nothing that frustrates me more than arguing over semantics than people who define their lives by it!
RMS, RMS, RMS, damn that man to the darkest reaches of hell. Hell as in a place of sufferring, not Hell in the Judeo/Christian sense of the word.
If I have to hear, hear as in read, one more person explain the difference between free beer and liberated software, or one more time how it should appropriately called GNU/Linux, I swear to god someone is going to pay.
Seriously, does this guy go OUT OF HIS WAY to frustrate people? How many times does he want to explain his definition of free software? Wouldn't it be simpler to simply come up with a less ambigious term? But OHHH NOOOOOO, why should he compromise?
I can only imagine the poor people that have to live with this man.
Wife: Richard! I told you to take out the garbage two hours ago!
RMS: Dear, that's not <i>garbage</i>, that's.. Uh.. Let's see.. Used Tissues, some coffee grounds, and my old porno rags. Now if you had simply used the proper terms in the first place..
Wife: Would you just take it out!
RMS: Look, I'm not even going to speak to you further unless you speak to me in the correct syntax.
Wife: GODDAMNIT!!!!
So GREAT. I can't wait to get this guy and a lawyer in the same room. It will be poetic.
For the sake of arguement, let's say the transcript runs 100 pages.
* 1 page, Richard Stallman providing his name, address, current occupation, other identifying material.
* 18 pages of Stallman explaining what "Free Software" means.
* 18 pages of Stallman explaining the GNU Public License.
* 20 pages of Stallman ``correcting" the interlocutor that they are talking about `GNU/linux'"
* 10 pages of Stallman being shown snippets of Linux kernel code & responding, ``I have no idea; I've never seen this code before."
* 33 pages of Stallman repeating, ``I don't know; I've never contributed any code to Torvalds' project."
Geoff
I think I see a trend here. Maybe for them it really would be easier to muzzle the entire internet than to produce p
Uhhh..... Aren't you pointing that the wrong direction....
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a courtroom, sometime in the *hopefully* near future, where the prosectuor representing SCO is liquored up from Hell to Christmas. (Even his lawyer stench can't disguise the foul odor of a lawsuit so frivolous, so he's been getting as legless as possible to face the jury.) He's calling random defendants to the stand, just so he can laugh at the fact that he got anyone to do something just by telling them to.
Prosecutor (speech slurred): Yyurr AAh-ner, I-I woo' like ta call... ummm... Roy Jones, Jr. to th'stand. After that, I wanna bring in my ex-wife, that cheatin bitch... and the POPE! Less'see what he has to say for HIM-se'f, hmm? And get MC Hammer in 'ere, too! Anybuddy, who-who wears pants like that has *ss-sumthin'* ta hide. And Bond! James Bond. He owes me a dollar. And for that matter...*voice trailing off as he slumps to the floor*
Judge: Bailiff, please have this man removed from my courtroom.
Prosecutor: HEEEeeEEYY! You take yer filthy Linux using fingers offa my suit! Th-This is... is my favorite suit! My wife bought this for me... on my birrrthday!! I'll see you in court, you dirty software pirating, coppee-rite infringin' mother....
(sounds of a man being dragged away against his will...)
Sure Bill Gates' hair is fugly, but give his barber some credit! At least he managed to cover the horns on his forehead.
>>Right - a car without an engine is not a car. Same with OS's
Wrong. A car without an engine is a car. Just ask Fred Flintstone.
it would have been better to credit GNU to the FSF, and not just to Stallman personally
I am sure RMS did not object. After all, RMS believes he created Linux and even the Internet, when we all know it was Apple, through Al Gore.
All this in a magazine like Forbes!
Holy crap and WOW! This might now be adopted by others in the press, and I love the "Linux Operating System Kernel" naming convention as a trade-off.
Wonderful. Now if only the Nobel committee would consider him and Torvalds for a Nobel Prize for sacrificing much of their lives for the sake of computing humanity's freedom, THEN we'll be getting somewhere.