Mandrake 9.2 ISOs Available

joestar writes "Since LG has released updated firmwares and a recovery procedure for all so-called ATAPI LG cd-rom drives that were "destroyed" by a feature of Mandrake 9.2, MandrakeSoft has publicly released the set of Mandrake 9.2 ISO images which are now available on a number of FTP mirrors. Mandrake 9.2 is one of the few remaining 100%-OSS major Linux distributions, so considering a MandrakeClub membership or joining Cooker - Mandrake's open development version - is certainly an excellent idea." Here's the feature list.

Comments

Good Bye Redhat!

[Bill, Shooter of Bul]

Redhat doesn't want my busness anymore, so it looks like a perfect time to try mandrake.

Re:Good Bye Redhat!

[AppyPappy]

Drake is the easiest to install and use. It's fat as a hog and eats memory like a PacMan machine but it will get you where you need to be. I do all my unix stuff on consoles at work and all my X stuff in Drake at home. I find it to be a perfect fit. I refer to it as Newbie Linux.

Re:Good Bye Redhat!

[mahdi13]

Redhat doesn't want my busness anymore, so it looks like a perfect time to try mandrake.

or Fedora
or Gentoo
or Debian
or SuSE (ftp install)
or Slackware
or Vector
or Knoppix
or one of the thousands of others

Re:Good Bye Redhat!

[The_Unforgiven]

What business?

Your usage of bandwidth?

I mean, I use redhat too, but I'm not under the illusion that I'm doing them a favor in doing so.

The $60 I spent on one release (7.2 I think) hardly makes up for the Gigabytes of data transfer I used when I downloaded about what? 3 other releases?

Re:Good Bye Redhat!

[nocomment]

Whatever you do, when downloading, don't use the esat.net mirror. It's uhhhh the worst one.

OSS distributions?

[Rinikusu]

Pardon me for the stupid question, but what does that comment regarding "few OSS distributions remaining" mean? I can see how "few remaining COMMERCIAL distros" would apply, but last I checked, there are thriving gentoo, debian, and even LFS communities out there, not to mention slackware, all those debian based LIVE CD distros, and hell, even FEDORA. What exactly is the poster's intent by that comment?

Re:OSS distributions?

[mahdi13]

What exactly is the poster's intent by that comment?

Probably still bitter that SCO canceled Calandra...

Re:OSS distributions?

[msimm]

Don't get me wrong. Most of what I know about GNU/Linux I learned on Mandrake. Implying that it's the last of the free software distros is comical though.

The downloadable version is free, as in unencombered. Thats important. I think its also important that as much as we complain here about everything we try to give credit where credit is due. Heres a simple quote from the Mandrake website:

"All improvements and add-ons introduced by MandrakeSoft are published under the General Public License (GPL)."

So I think calling their software free isn't very missleading at all. Including packages with none OSI certified lisences is nothing to crow about when they've made both their distribution and contributed code free.

This is the only company I know of that actually puts its money (and its business model) where its mouth is (and it might even work).

Re:How about a .torrent?

[Anonymous Coward]

http://www.mandrakelinux.com/download/MandrakeLinu x-9.2-DOWNLOAD-3CD.torrent

OSS Linux Distributions

[amcnabb]

Mandrake 9.2 is one of the few remaining 100%-OSS major Linux distributions.

Whatever happened to Gentoo, Debian, and Fedora? The only major distribution that isn't completely open source is SuSe.

Re:OSS Linux Distributions

[jonbryce]

The download really is 100% OSS/Free Software, ie no pine, netscape, flash etc.

BitTorrent

[Youssef Adnan]

BitTorrent link from Mandrake. It's located on the download page right before the FTP mirror list:
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/download/MandrakeLinu x-9.2-DOWNLOAD-3CD.torrent

Installer

[S.I.O.]

1 LG CD-ROM drive detected.
Would you like to pray for it?

They weren't compliant.

[buchanmilne]

The drives re-implemented the FLUSH_CACHE command to update the firmware. The standard allows either to implement it (and do nothing on a CD-ROM drive) or to not implement it (resulting in an error), but not to use it for something else (and they chose to do something potentially catestrophic with it).

So, drives with older firmware aren't compliant, and their degree of non-compliance results in the drive erasing it's own firmware (I mean, they could instead have re-used the command to open the drive tray ;-)).

Re:Mandrake

[Carnildo]

Destroying the firmware wasn't a bug in Mandrake, it was a bug in the CD-ROM firmware -- the company decided not to implement the ATAPI "clear cache" command, as very few CD-ROM drivers use it. Instead, they decided to re-use that command for uploading firmware -- not a good idea.

Now taking bets..

[rylin]

Slashdot headline in 20 minutes: Mandrake 9.2 ISOs No Longer Available.

Re:Now taking bets..

[ShadyG]

The more likely headline:

"Mandrake 9.2 ISOs Available"

Re:Where's the firmware?

[jm2morri]

Go to http://us.lgservice.com/ and click on "Device Driver".

Re:mandrake

[MindStalker]

They have a 9.1 release for PPC but no 9.2 sadly.

http://public.ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/mandrake- is o/ppc/

Running it since day 1

[tickticker]

As a club member, I've been running it on several machines of various configurations. Here's a brief take of the 30 installs on 10 machines:

- I can't unplug my Dell 5800 laptop while running or it locks up, same with plugging it in while running. Working on the cause.
- BE SURE to check your MD5 sums. I've had more bad disks with this release than the last 3 or so releases combined. One bad disk would not only fail to install a package, but would break and remove several others unless the offending package was removed. Then voila! the broken packages return to the menus and functionality.
- Handles 3d hardware acceleration fine for my ATI 9500 card, but no 3d for my 9700 pro (5 install attempts and dozens of fixes) I will not give up... Must..get...CWET...working.
- K3b is the default burning software, so just change your cd drives to ide-scsi and save yourselves some headaches over "unusable" drives
- Mandrake-galaxy is a theme that actually appeals to me. And I generally can't stand themes no matter the platform.

Other than these major points, I think this is the best Mandrake yet. I can't wait for kde 3.2 and the 2.6 kernal. I'm just not feeling that adventurous yet.... but i will soon.

--sigs are like giraffes, they can look cool sometimes, but they don't make any noise.

Mandrake user confusion...

[DeionXxX]

As a "power-user" I really don't like how Mandrake hides so many settings from me. Like I installed Mandrake on a laptop with a USB Network dongle and I needed for Mandrake to wait until the laptop had loaded the drivers for USB before doing the network settings. I could not figure it out though! No where in the settings could I tell it to wait and tell it when to set up the network. Each bootup I had to go back into the CLI and type in ifdown eth0, ifup eth0 in order to get my network up.

Its just little things like that, that need to be ironed out of Mandrake and I think it'll be a great OS. As a Windows user, I sort of expect stupid crap like that to work correctly. I love the power *nix OS's give me, but I'd rather not have to deal with these silly configuration issues. I think thats the biggest drawback with Mandrake and all other Desktop *NIX's. When dealing with server software like Apache, PHP, MySQL, Perl, etc... everything seems to work together seamlessly, but in the Desktop... it feels like each piece of software is in a different universe.

:-)

-- D3X

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Re:100% oss

[jonbryce]

The Free Software Foundation have a list of approved free software licenses. The Open Source Initiative have a list of approved open source licenses.

A 100% Free/OSS distribution is one where all the software in the distro is licenced under one of these approved licenses.

Re:What business?

[vsprintf]

I wouldn't equate Mandrake and Lindows. Mandrake will be secure out of the box unless you tell it otherwise during installation. Lindows runs as root by default and should not be promoted by Linux users, IMHO.

Re:Slack is dying? Really?

[Pharmboy]

I am not an authority on Slack, but I will give you my impression from using it just a few weeks, after using RedHat for many years, and having SunOS and Solaris shell accounts for MANY years.

Slack seems more Unix like. Things are in very standard places, where you would expect them to be on a real Unix system. This is still a little confusing to me because I am used to them being in the wrong places with RH, but my SunOS and Solaris experience helps. I found it to be quite easy to install Slack 9.0. Some parts are a little confusing, but only because they are different, not necessarily harder. Unlike many, I prefer a menu based text based install, which Slack has. After roaming around it a few minutes, it all made sense. My second install took 10 minutes to get started, and then I just walked away while it copied files.

It handles groups differently, it doesn't just create a group for every user independently (which I never understood why RH does). The security is a bit more important, and you will find it defaults to a bit more secure of a systems, especially compared to older RH distros (7.2 and older). It does require some getting used to, and I am still not ready to commit the servers to it (looking at Debian also, waiting for a new MB to arrive for testing). But its in the hunt.

I can easily see that Slack is NOT for people who just want to click pretty widgets to configure their systems. My experience with pretty widgets on Linux is a mixed bag, from linuxconf trashing an install (on RH 6.1 default install) to all the crap included with Gnome (which I don't like) and KDE (which I do like, but dont use the widgets). I can see why real hardware/os minded people like Slack, because of its elegant simplicity, power, and security.