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Mandrake 9.2 ISOs Available
joestar writes "Since LG has released updated firmwares and a recovery procedure for all so-called ATAPI LG cd-rom drives that were "destroyed" by a feature of Mandrake 9.2, MandrakeSoft has publicly released the set of Mandrake 9.2 ISO images which are now available on a number of FTP mirrors. Mandrake 9.2 is one of the few remaining 100%-OSS major Linux distributions, so considering a MandrakeClub membership or joining Cooker - Mandrake's open development version - is certainly an excellent idea."
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What im grappling with is whether this is actually some form of Hardware Darwinism...
Redhat doesn't want my busness anymore, so it looks like a perfect time to try mandrake.
Well.. maybe. Or Maybe not. But Definitely not sort of.
Pardon me for the stupid question, but what does that comment regarding "few OSS distributions remaining" mean? I can see how "few remaining COMMERCIAL distros" would apply, but last I checked, there are thriving gentoo, debian, and even LFS communities out there, not to mention slackware, all those debian based LIVE CD distros, and hell, even FEDORA. What exactly is the poster's intent by that comment?
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http://www.mandrakelinux.com/download/MandrakeLinu x-9.2-DOWNLOAD-3CD.torrent
Mandrake 9.2 is one of the few remaining 100%-OSS major Linux distributions.
Whatever happened to Gentoo, Debian, and Fedora? The only major distribution that isn't completely open source is SuSe.
I'm so glad they got this fixed, and I hope this whole sorry incident can be swept right under the rug. I've always said that Mandrake would be the distro to cause MS users to seriously consider switching. I started my Linux oddysey on Mandrake (hell, I still use it!) and fully believe that it offers the widest spectrum of a Linux experience.
The average user can get it working right out of the box (or download). That's something you can't say for most Linux installs -- or even some Windows installs. The hardware support is phenomenal.
And the ease of use doesn't have to detract from its power -- Mandrake gives you plenty of choices, from a fully-loaded, app-laden KDE or Gnome interface to light, fast WMs like Fluxbox. And best of all, it's Linux, pure and simple, so that all our favorite apps are still there.
I originally switched away from Mandrake because of the poor package management they used to have, but the implementation of urpmi in 9.1 convinced me to scrap my Debian install for Mandrake. Package management is a breeze once you get your sources configured. It's still not as developed as apt, but at least it doesn't break things the way apt is wont to.
Mandrake is Linux's best hope for widespread adoption, but not if it's screwing up people's cd rom drives. Thanks for the speedy fix, guys.
I think other distros need to look to Mandrake as the leader it is in making free software easy-to-use. Mandrake's distro isn't perfect, but it has come a long way in helping me to enjoy my Linux use.
:)
Off to join MandrakeClub...
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BitTorrent link from Mandrake. It's located on the download page right before the FTP mirror list:u x-9.2-DOWNLOAD-3CD.torrent
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/download/MandrakeLin
1 LG CD-ROM drive detected.
Would you like to pray for it?
The drives re-implemented the FLUSH_CACHE command to update the firmware. The standard allows either to implement it (and do nothing on a CD-ROM drive) or to not implement it (resulting in an error), but not to use it for something else (and they chose to do something potentially catestrophic with it).
;-)).
So, drives with older firmware aren't compliant, and their degree of non-compliance results in the drive erasing it's own firmware (I mean, they could instead have re-used the command to open the drive tray
Destroying the firmware wasn't a bug in Mandrake, it was a bug in the CD-ROM firmware -- the company decided not to implement the ATAPI "clear cache" command, as very few CD-ROM drivers use it. Instead, they decided to re-use that command for uploading firmware -- not a good idea.
"They redundantly repeated themselves over and over again incessantly without end ad infinitum" -- ibid.
Slashdot headline in 20 minutes: Mandrake 9.2 ISOs No Longer Available.
Go to http://us.lgservice.com/ and click on "Device Driver".
They have a 9.1 release for PPC but no 9.2 sadly.
- is o/ppc/
http://public.ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/mandrake
- I can't unplug my Dell 5800 laptop while running or it locks up, same with plugging it in while running. Working on the cause.
- BE SURE to check your MD5 sums. I've had more bad disks with this release than the last 3 or so releases combined. One bad disk would not only fail to install a package, but would break and remove several others unless the offending package was removed. Then voila! the broken packages return to the menus and functionality.
- Handles 3d hardware acceleration fine for my ATI 9500 card, but no 3d for my 9700 pro (5 install attempts and dozens of fixes) I will not give up... Must..get...CWET...working.
- K3b is the default burning software, so just change your cd drives to ide-scsi and save yourselves some headaches over "unusable" drives
- Mandrake-galaxy is a theme that actually appeals to me. And I generally can't stand themes no matter the platform.
Other than these major points, I think this is the best Mandrake yet. I can't wait for kde 3.2 and the 2.6 kernal. I'm just not feeling that adventurous yet.... but i will soon.
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Here's the torrent:
u x-9.2-DOWNLOAD-3CD.torrent
:-)
http://www.mandrakelinux.com/download/MandrakeLin
Make with the downloading...I'm only getting 160k/sec so far
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As a "power-user" I really don't like how Mandrake hides so many settings from me. Like I installed Mandrake on a laptop with a USB Network dongle and I needed for Mandrake to wait until the laptop had loaded the drivers for USB before doing the network settings. I could not figure it out though! No where in the settings could I tell it to wait and tell it when to set up the network. Each bootup I had to go back into the CLI and type in ifdown eth0, ifup eth0 in order to get my network up.
:-)
Its just little things like that, that need to be ironed out of Mandrake and I think it'll be a great OS. As a Windows user, I sort of expect stupid crap like that to work correctly. I love the power *nix OS's give me, but I'd rather not have to deal with these silly configuration issues. I think thats the biggest drawback with Mandrake and all other Desktop *NIX's. When dealing with server software like Apache, PHP, MySQL, Perl, etc... everything seems to work together seamlessly, but in the Desktop... it feels like each piece of software is in a different universe.
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The Free Software Foundation have a list of approved free software licenses. The Open Source Initiative have a list of approved open source licenses.
A 100% Free/OSS distribution is one where all the software in the distro is licenced under one of these approved licenses.
I hear using Gentoo would would help reduce the stress you are apparently suffering from. Gentoo also cures headaches, purifies water, makes a great floor polish and desert topping. I added a quart of Gentoo to my car, drained the oil, and have been driving it for nearly a million miles. Recent scientific studies indicate that Gentoo cures cancer , brings the dead back to life, and adds spice to any decor.
Try Gentoo... it's not just for Gentoo zealots any more.
When will Windows be ready for the desktop?
I can't unplug my Dell 5800 laptop while running or it locks up, same with plugging it in while running. Working on the cause.
Broken local APIC. Boot with 'nolapic' to workaround it.
Handles 3d hardware acceleration fine for my ATI 9500 card, but no 3d for my 9700 pro (5 install attempts and dozens of fixes) I will not give up... Must..get...CWET...working.
There are updated ATI driver packages on the Club, you may want to try those.
I bought all of those shrink-wrapped boxes, because Redhat Linux was a lot easier to set up and use, than if you were to do a Linux From Scratch setup. Redhat is still free (as in freedom), but it's a little more expensive now, because people like me who support quality, supported free software have to pick up the slack for the freeloaders. This whole thing is bad news for the freeloaders, who are now left with the orphan child that is Fedora (or they can move elsewhere), but it's good news for Redhat. They're not sorry to see the freeloaders go. Freedom. At what price? Is it worth it? For $60 a pop, it sure was to me. For $180 and up, no, I don't think so.
I have the Mandrake 9.2 Power Pack DVD (I'll support Mandrake now, and hope that others do the same, so that they don't disappear or go the way of Redhat. I can play DVDs and play Frozen Bubble, all without having to muck around, searching for the right RPMS or find out where to get Perl-SDL, or whatever I need to compile Frozen Bubble. I'm sure it can be done, but like Redhat says, this is not the sort of stuff Grandma wants to be doing ("eh? Make? Configure? What's this you're talking about, sonny?"). Mandrake takes care of things like this for you, while Redhat never did. Makes me wonder why I didn't switch to Mandrake earlier. I just hope that all the freeloaders will reconsider their actions, and consider giving Mandrake some money, if they like what they have to offer.
Major commercial distribution. Gentoo, Debian and Fedora are great, but for a commercial player Mandrake has been a surprisingly upstanding member of the OSS community. Not only in keeping Mandrake free (as in beer and freedom) but actively using alternative funding methods in an attempt to reasonably sustain that freedom (in a commercail marketplace).
I've got a lot of respect for that.
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RTFA. The problem affected a few specific revisions of the firmware that shipped with a few, specific CD-ROM drives only - CD-R/RW and DVD-* drives were apparently not affected.
When was the last time you bought a Dell (or any other name-brand PC) that shipped with a plain CD-ROM drive?
It's official. Most of you are morons.
I am posting this because, believe it or not, there are a lot of /. readers that have no experience with Linux but are curious to try.
I am one if the inexperienced Linux users. I tried several distros and the one that was hands down the easiest to deploy from the noob prospective was Mandrake.
My first try was with release 8.0. I loved the installer and the docs available for learning to setup my machine for dual boot and proper Linux partitions.
The installer is a work of art. It made the installation as easy as *gasp* Windows. It walks you through the proper options to choose so you get the setup you want (in my case I wanted to try workstation, not server). I had no trouble with my systems hardware being compatible.
My plea to anyone who has never tried Linux but is curious is to try Mandrake. It's the most noob friendly distro around.
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but since we can't see the code, who knows?
And that's the key point. Since we can see mandrakes code, we know for certain that it's not doing anything unreasonable. And so mandrake carries greater credibility than microsoft.
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The reason they broke is because the weren't following the ATAPI specification fully. When Mandrake tried to use a function that works with the standard, the drives choked. After the firmware upgrade, they seem to be fine. According to the article anyway.
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I've used Mandrake for about 4 years. I was a member of Mandrake Club, and I really thought Mandrake was easy to use and a very complete distribution. I still would recommend it to anyone who wants to get started with Linux. However, after spending so much time with Mandrake and KDE, I found that I liked GNOME better. To me, KDE vs. GNOME is essentially quantity vs. quality, and I'll stick with quality. Most of the KDE apps are just plain inferior to their GNOME counterparts. Konqueror vs. Galeon? Puh-lease. (OK, so Galeon isn't really part of GNOME. Picky, picky.)
Mandrake is committed to KDE. They don't cripple GNOME, but I felt I'd be better off with a more pure GNOME desktop. (I was right. I'm much happier having switched.)
I thought about Ximian and Red Hat, but I went with Gentoo after reading about the distribution and the philosophy behind it (I would paraphrase it as "power and simplicity"). I had tried to install Gentoo before, but the compile time wore me out. Now, there is a Gentoo Reference Platform, which contains binaries for a fairly complete installation. I personally chose not to go that way, because my computer is a 2.2 GH P4, which is basically fast enough to bring the compile time down to something reasonable (GNOME compiles overnight - I didn't check exactly how long it took). But, the GRP seems like a very reasonable way to quickly get Gentoo on your system.
I've been very pleased to find that I'm learning much more about the system, by reading the excellent Gentoo docs, and by asking the occasional question at the #gentoo IRC channel. I am not a Linux guru, by any means, but I'm not a newbie either. Somewhere in the middle.
I'm amazed at the breadth of software available. Yeah, it's a bit of a hassle installing from source, rather than from binary packages, but I feel like I'm closer to the metal. And once I get all my favorite stuff installed, I can update them all to the latest, just by typing "emerge --update world". I can easily download and try the latest unstable kernel, if I want, or get the latest Mozilla Firebird, to see if a bug has been addressed. Or I can shoot back to an older version which is known to work. I guess I could have used Cooker with Mandrake, in order to experience the bleeding edge, but I never gave that a try. Somehow, I doubt it is as simple and easy to use as the Gentoo portage system.
In fact, I would compare Mandrake vs. Gentoo in the same way I compared KDE vs. GNOME. Mandrake is "quantity" of tools, but Gentoo is "quality" of tools. There seems to be a great deal of thought behind the Gentoo architecture and tools. They're typically command line - no GUI whiz bang stuff, but they just work.
The Mandrake GUI config stuff didn't always work properly anyway, and I'm finding that I enjoy editing the config files and learning how to make my system work the way I want it to.
If you're a newbie, stick with Mandrake, but if you're a little more advanced, and you can afford to initially spend some time learning and problem-solving, I highly recommend Gentoo.
The #Gentoo IRC channel almost always has tons of people on it, who are more than happy to help a new user figure out what's going on with their system. Try to find your answer in the user docs first, though, so you don't waste someone else's time.
Well since Fedora Core 1 failed to load, I will happily dump it in favor of Mandrake.
As far as why Fed would not load, it failed to regonize my Kyro video card & onboard Ethernet.
This system was running Mandrake 9.0
Viva Le Mandrake
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Hmmm, where is the Dell, Compaq or HP 64 bit desktop? Oh, that's right, M$ won't be shipping a 64 bit OS until next year. Some call that "freedom to innovate". :D
Where do I want to go today? 64 bit desktop is where I want to go TODAY. SuSe and Mandrake will let me use my Opteron desktop machine now. I can choose from several open source, new technology solutions now, or wait for "innovation" to catch up when it gets around to it. If that's innovation, guess I'll have to settle for freedom and choice.
Okay!
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I just upgraded from 9.1 to 9.2. First thing, it is still nice but there are some bugs in the system right off the bat, primarily concerning KDE. You will immediately want to download the updates to fix them. You will likely experience some problems with kmenu items. Updating fixes it. If you have an LG cdrom, download the fixes from the mandrake website. It apparently isn't mandrake's fault, this problem, but they have a fix.
There are a LOT of updates. If you have a modem connection...it's going to take a while. I downloaded all the updates to my laptop over my job's ethernet connection so they would be on hand immediately after installing 9.2 on both my laptop and desktop. I suggest something like this for others with modem connections at home.
After the updates, no problems at all.
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It seems like most people here are concerned about desktops. Which distro is the best if you want to colocate a web/mail server with a database backend? I really don't care at all about KDE and GNOME.
I wouldn't equate Mandrake and Lindows. Mandrake will be secure out of the box unless you tell it otherwise during installation. Lindows runs as root by default and should not be promoted by Linux users, IMHO.
I am not an authority on Slack, but I will give you my impression from using it just a few weeks, after using RedHat for many years, and having SunOS and Solaris shell accounts for MANY years.
Slack seems more Unix like. Things are in very standard places, where you would expect them to be on a real Unix system. This is still a little confusing to me because I am used to them being in the wrong places with RH, but my SunOS and Solaris experience helps. I found it to be quite easy to install Slack 9.0. Some parts are a little confusing, but only because they are different, not necessarily harder. Unlike many, I prefer a menu based text based install, which Slack has. After roaming around it a few minutes, it all made sense. My second install took 10 minutes to get started, and then I just walked away while it copied files.
It handles groups differently, it doesn't just create a group for every user independently (which I never understood why RH does). The security is a bit more important, and you will find it defaults to a bit more secure of a systems, especially compared to older RH distros (7.2 and older). It does require some getting used to, and I am still not ready to commit the servers to it (looking at Debian also, waiting for a new MB to arrive for testing). But its in the hunt.
I can easily see that Slack is NOT for people who just want to click pretty widgets to configure their systems. My experience with pretty widgets on Linux is a mixed bag, from linuxconf trashing an install (on RH 6.1 default install) to all the crap included with Gnome (which I don't like) and KDE (which I do like, but dont use the widgets). I can see why real hardware/os minded people like Slack, because of its elegant simplicity, power, and security.
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