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Gateway Forges Partnership With SuSE
Zardus writes "According to Forbes, Gateway has named SuSE a "strategic partner" and will be offering SuSE Linux on all of their servers. I always thought SuSE would be a nice name for a cow, but I guess I'll have to settle with it being the OS of a spotted server." The article notes: "SuSE has long sought a greater presence in the United States, where rival Red Hat has taken the lead in selling Linux server software to businesses."
I for one have been waiting quite awhie to see a major vendor endorse another distro besides RedHat. Variety helps everyone, as does competition, and I don't see how a choice between linux distros hurts Linux or the vendor.
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Too bad that Gateway is just about the last vendor I would buy a server from. Maybe I'm just replying on some prejudices of mine, but does gateway make decent server hardware?
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has been dying for a long time now, their hayday was '96, '97, they needed a partner like this to help them going. This is definetly a good business move on the part of Gateway.
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Gateway sells servers?
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As Novell agreed to acquire Suse how will this affect that agreement? Doesn't this mean that Gateway will be offering Novell Suse Linux on their servers?
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For those of you that aren't familiar with the U.S. market, Gateway is practically dead in the computer space. Dell has taken over anything they once had. Gateway is now focusing on selling plasma televisions and home entertainment in a last bid to survive.
I thought gateway had been relegated to cheap PCs and consumer electronics. Had no idea they were even still in the server space, which begs the question. In this day and age - who is buying business servers from Gateway? If Gateway had ANY sense (and I've recommended this to Sun as well), they would sell personal home servers. Today's 'connected' home is full of a lot of devices that people want to share data and yet most people are heating their homes trying to use full PCs for the task. Gateway should at the very least look up the old Qube design and turn that into a home server design. Something small, relatively quiet, and light on power consumption that can stream video, audio, etc to all of the 'connected' devices that Gateway makes. But alas I'm sure they'll try to jump on the Linux bandwagon with everyone else, after-the-fact and sell servers to the few companies who would still buy a business server from Gateway (unless I'm just not seeing their servers when I visit companies or something).
While Dell is making the big bucks Gateway has been laying off people. This is why they are interested in expanding into electronic products like Flatpanel displays(gateway displays are inexpensive but not hdtv) and into cameras and mp3 players. This company is in serious decline. Although their laptops get good props from Cnet and pcworld. Getting into servers only makes sense since they HAVE to diversify.
Buy a Gateway server, and get your choice of:
1) Epson America Stylus(R) color Inkjet
OR
2) Gateway Brand 1.2 megapixel digital camera
*Plus*
Free UPS ground
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"Gateway recommends Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP" right at the top of the screen.
Since the original came from Reuters anyway, why no link to Reuters instead of For-bees, eh?
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Are among the most atrocius pieces of hardware I have ever encountered. Frequent hardware failures, performance issues that stagger the mind... I stay away from them at all costs. Oh incidentally, their enterprise support sucks as well. You would do better to get your hardware from the mom and pop store down the street, let alone Dell, HP/CPQ, or IBM.
How does Gateway square it's no AMD policy with SuSe's 64-bit x86 Linux versions? Will Gateway once again be forced to supply a decent processor?
VA Linux wasn't able to make a profit selling linux servers... I don't know why Gateway would. I think of Gateway as a PC for a first-time buyer, inexpensive, but higher quality than an HP, Compaq, or eMachines.
I think there's more to this story than is currently being revealed.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
Man. What are they doing??? Gateway hasn't any server market, or products to speak of, and their other offerings are only consumer grade crap (albeit decently priced consumer grade crap).
This is the last company SuSE should have aligned themselves with if their intent was to win any corporate clients.
Everywhere on the Gateway pages there is still written:"Gateway recommends Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP", but maybe things change a bit. Unfortunately if you have a look at the category "Operating Systems" on their website you can still only choose between
XP Home Upgrade
XP Professional Upgrade
XP Home
and my favorite OS:
Microsoft Plus! For Windows XP
...and I wouldn't get too excited. We've had LOTS of "strategic partnerships" that never did squat. A couple of big ones with AOL and Transmeta quickly come to mind.
While our competitors talk around the issue of freedom by discussing the "possible benefits" of "OpenSource techniques" and "Linux-based software", the hardware vendors should be shouting "Free Software" from the rooftops.
With Free Software, the price restrictions drop, and computers become more useful. Hardware vendors don't have to worry if the OS will support their new video card etc. They can hack together their own support.
So anyone can compete, and the software vendors don't hold any controlling cards. I can see why software companies don't get Free Software. They'd have to change their entrenched business models. But hardware companies should be shouting "Users should expect Free Software", and funding FSF, etc.
some people just don't know a good thing when they see it.
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There has got to be something significant with the timing of all of this... Novell gets SuSE and Ximian, Gateway starts offering SuSE... I really would not be surprised if there's something going on at Compaq/HP/Dell to turn the tables and apply serious pressure on Microsoft. Forget about pricing, I have a feeling that those guys would rather see a much larger disconnect between the OS and components like the Browser, Media Player, and *ESPECIALLY* MSN IM.
OK, it's a poor attempt at humor, but then it is Monday morning...
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I enjoyed your post even though you should have RTFA, but I was left with one burning question:
Are you shocked or not?
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Gateway already offers RedHat.
Gateway has less than 1% of the US server market.
But there have been rumblings that Gateway wants to move up in the world. A partnership with IBM should be beneficial, and might explain the Linux movement.
How many more companies have to embrace Linux before people realise its here to stay?
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It seems there is an emerging force behind linux now, and pretty soon there will only be a couple of large companies left behind. Those players that Microsoft has all but wiped out know that if they are going to survive, they have to put their money behind Open Source, Any new proprietary Office/Server Space software doesnt stand a chance against Open Source, or The beast of redmond. So what Microsoft kills creates a new seed planted in the beds of Open Source. Redmond are rapidly digging their own grave and in it will be planted the seeds of an open and free world
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I'll be impressed when they announce they are shipping systems with Linux installed as the DESKTOP enviroment, sans any M$ products.
When I clicked on the gateway link, out of morbid curiosity, I got this at the very top of the first page I saw,
"Gateway recommends Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP"
Not that I would ever buy a pre-built computer or recomend that anyone buy one, but I'm not seeing too much headway being made in the final conflict for the desktop.
I suppose this is still better than nothing, perhaps it's a start.
The only way we're going to save Linux is to get it off Grandma's computer.
Do you believe in the principles of Open Source, or not?
Yeah, that was a little over the top, but the point is that OSS principles don't depend on the expertise of the user nor the skill level of an individual developer to work. In fact, you want users of all skill levels and backgrounds. How else can you make it better?
Either Linux can take the scrutiny of Grandma and be improved by it, or Microsoft, SCO, and the RIAA have already won.
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Am waiting for a real partnership between Gateway & SuSE, not one of these bogus 'forged' partnerships.
Nope. The price is the same it has been for a couple of years: $40. The $80 price is for the "Pro" version, which is double the price when there was no Pro version. Maybe more than double -- seems like SuSE Linux was $30 in 1999, and they even had some rebates for a couple of years.
I couldn't get Red Hat 5 to run on my box in 1999 because it had an SiS video card. SuSE 6.2 had a patched version of X Window System that worked for me. Though I missed some great features in Red Hat, I've been very pleased with the increasing maturity of SuSE Linux.
SuSE's download server appears to be throttled for free access users. Sometimes I can't even get a full YaST update, and it is sloooow too. I'm still living in 56K land, but the server only allows about a third of that, and it gets slower as the connection ages. SuSE offers better service for a fee -- something around $5 a month, I think, for a basic upgrade, more for business folks who need more and better.
From 1990 to today, every Gateway owner I've known has had to call tech support at least once. Single user home PC purchases, large institutional buys, it hasn't mattered; something was always wrong enough to require a call to Gateway.
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According to the article.... "Gateway, which currently offers Microsoft Corp.'s (nasdaq: MSFT - news - people) server software and Red Hat Inc.'s (nasdaq: MSFT - news - people) version of Linux..." Mmm, Redhat seems to have been acquired by Microsoft... Microsoft is taking some pretty drastic measures to compete with Novell...
This isn't today's news. SuSE 9.0 Professional was being sold for $79.95 when it got released so I don't know if you actually meant to try to tie this into today's SuSE/Gateway news or if it was a mistake on your part but again, no controversy here. And the other thing is if you're so concerned about the price why don't you buy the personal version for $39.95? The Professional box comes with 5 CDs, 1 DVD and 2 printed manuals with 90 days installation support. The personal just includes the CDs. If you don't want to do that either then do a FTP install. No one said that a Linux vendor has to ship you CDs for free. If you don't like the price then don't buy it, the OS is still free.
I don't know about anyone else here but I would prefer is SuSE kept charging for the Personal and Professional versions. Atleast that gives them the chance to make *some* money of the "free" versions rather than ditch it all together and re-brand it a la Fedora.
GateWay Canada used to sell machines with RedHat preinstalled. As I recall, the price was almost identical to the price with Windows installed. They also absolutely refused to sell the machine without any OS (I prefer Debian and don't want to pay for RedHat, either). All of this suggests that they are paying a Windows tax and will pass it on to you regardless of what OS you want.