Yes, indeed, Motorola "got" the 6502. At least the right to build them, with little or no royalty to MOS Technology. Check your handy DigiKey catalog. Motorola 6502's have been in there for years. I don't need to "read the article" -- I read the original news stories in ECN and other mags "back in the day".
Motorola won their suit against MOS Tech because they took electron microscope shots of the silicon within the DIP packages and, voila, there were Moto's drawing numbers and logos right there on the silicon!
Innovative? Maybe. They did add a second index register, but at the expense of reducing both to eight bits, compared to the sixteen bit index register in the 6800. The PC (program counter, "Where am I") register was chopped to eight bits too. Bad from a programming standpoint, but their "innovations" did get them some clock speed. At the expense of needing more clock ticks. Advertising is everything -- our clock is faster!
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but as I recall the 4004 wasn't a single-chip microprocessor. Depending on the chip set used, it took from two to four chips to put together a working microprocessor.
Intel's first shur-nuff single-chip microprocessor was the gosh-awful, horribly slow 8008. They took so long to get past the 8008 and the only marginally better 8080 that Zilog brought out a much-improved, instruction set compatible version, the Z80, which dominated the microprocessor market for a number of years.
The first true computer-on-a-chip was Motorola's 6800, but they muffed their opportunity by waiting too long to market it and priced it too high. Worse, some employees stole their chip masks and modified the design, which they sold (cheaply, compared to the 8008 and 6800) as the 6502, which was adopted for the Apple. Motorola sued and got the 6502, which they continued to sell, but lost years of opportunity and the chance to dominate the whole market.
Yeah, I got one of these too. Since I've been self-employed for over 23 years, it looks like I would have already heard about this layoff. Sigh. I'm always the last to know!
The last time I checked, Utah was kinda north of Arizona -- and west of Colorado. Did somebody move it while I wasn't paying attention?
Hatch was Senior Senior from Utah for many years. I think he has a place in Wyoming now.
Idiotic legislation is hardly confined to the South. I don't know whether it's still on the books, but Indiana used to have a law defining pi as 3-1/7. There are tons of others, all over the world.
Wrong. Connecticut gave you Dubya. His poppa brought him to Texas 'cuz there was a load of money to be made in the oil fields. Where did poppa go to retire: Maine. These folks aren't Texans. Never were, aren't, never will be.
I just about choked a couple of days ago when an interviewer called George W. a rancher. Yeah, right. BTW, I'm a fifth-generation Texan and our family have been ranching in Texas for well over 100 years.
Some time ago I saw a TV program on this subject. The investigators claimed to have found objects which they associated with Cro-Magnon people, objects with strange marks on them; marks which appeared to be a crude lunar calendar. If true, Cro-Magnon folks were much more intelligent than their Neanderthal neighbors -- able to forecast dark (or light) nights, able to record information and able to engage in non-verbal communication. And outsmart their enemies as well as become more efficient hunters and providers.
Nope. The price is the same it has been for a couple of years: $40. The $80 price is for the "Pro" version, which is double the price when there was no Pro version. Maybe more than double -- seems like SuSE Linux was $30 in 1999, and they even had some rebates for a couple of years.
I couldn't get Red Hat 5 to run on my box in 1999 because it had an SiS video card. SuSE 6.2 had a patched version of X Window System that worked for me. Though I missed some great features in Red Hat, I've been very pleased with the increasing maturity of SuSE Linux.
SuSE's download server appears to be throttled for free access users. Sometimes I can't even get a full YaST update, and it is sloooow too. I'm still living in 56K land, but the server only allows about a third of that, and it gets slower as the connection ages. SuSE offers better service for a fee -- something around $5 a month, I think, for a basic upgrade, more for business folks who need more and better.
All Linux and GNU code, including comments, is freely available to you and anyone else who wishes to see it, and always has been. Every release and every tiny change is there. Likewise, our communications with our fellow developers with respect to these programs has been freely available for years.
So, what is it you want? You already have access to everything we have on the subject. Just download it like everybody else does.
And then show us exactly what you claim has been misapproprated from your code.
Now, go away so we can write some more first class programs.
This is decidedly bending the topic, but... Non-compete claims (and the "agreements" on which they are based) like this are evil.
What the defense attorney needs to do is to pound employers like this with claims of attempted involutary servitude -- they're attempting to prevent you from practicing your profession, denying you a livlihood -- trying to intimidate you into staying with them instead of changing jobs. As long as an employee doesn't start a directly competing business or take the prior employeer's art to a similar product, that employee ought (and used) to have the right to "what I know." Fortunately, to win such a countersuit, proof of preponderance of evidence is all that is needed, and (in the past at least) employees are usually favored over employers by juries, and, usually, judges.
Unfortunately, many attorneys are not willing to stick their necks out like this because corporate clients pay much better than do individuals, so they're always hoping for corporate business, which they're not likely to get if they go "business busting."
I have worked local elections here where mark sense machines are used. I don't know how it is done in other states, but this is how we do it here.
The ballots have precinct (voting place) identification and serial numbers on them, both of which are scanned along with the rest of the ballot. In primaries, the party name is coded on the ballot too. Records are kept of which ballots are issued and of those returned as spoiled (for which duplicates have been issued) and of unused ballots. The precinct election judges must return all spoiled ballots and unused ballots to the election clerk.
A vote can be changed by erasing and re-marking, but this is one of the most common problems in counting votes. It is almost impossible to completely erase the "old" vote. Any voter can declare a ballot to be spoiled and exchange it for another, but as an election official, I have seen many erasures. The counting machine usually rejects them (it is very sensitive), but the judges are usually able to determine what the voter intended, in which case white stickers are applied and/or a weak mark darkened and the ballot put back through the counting machine. At least two election judges must examine a questionable ballot and agree before this is done. There are also independent observers. All ballots are retained after being counted; they are later sampled and audited by an independent auditing committee.
To SCO (too skoe), v.t. (1) To attempt to collect royalties or fees for services or the use of properties to which the perpetrator has no rights, or to which the alleged rights are highly dubious. (2) To bully by means of expensive trial lawyers. Also, pulling a SCO (colloquial).
SCO-ed (skoad, skode), (1) past tense and past participle of To SCO (q.v.). (2) adj. Result of the action of a SCO-ing.
Then you would love Houston, Texas. Most of the Gulf Coast area in general, in fact. It too "just happened."
Streets/Roads that used to wander across the countryside have kept their names and it isn't unknown to change street names when going thru an intersection. Just like London and Paris, parts of some streets have been renamed - the part of Bellaire Blvd. east of Bellaire was renamed Holcombe Blvd. years ago for a Mayor.
Our ancestors learned their lessons well at Britannia's footstool, rebels tho' they may have been.
I have a Southwest Technical Products (SWTP) case with a 6809 board and Gimix floppy controller, vintage 1982. I also have two other 6809-based computers, one I built in 1981/82 the other in 1983. With both 5.25-inch and 8-inch floppy drives. My first 5.25-inch drives were Qumes - at $300 each (1981/82 dollars at that). I also have several IBM PC's (no hard disk) that I bought in 1985, some still in daily service, still doing the job they were originally bought to do.
BSE, or Mad Cow Disease, as the press has dubbed it, appears to have been transferred from sheep to cattle. About twenty-five ago Great Britain began allowing feed processors to use steamed sheep bone meal in cattle feed. BCE began to appear in bovines a few years later.
The disease in sheep is known as scrapie and has been known for around 250 years, according to the U. S. Department of Agriculture. The USDA even has an active program intended to eliminate scrapie. I am not aware of any definite link between scrapie and Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were.
How scrapie was transmitted to elk and deer doesn't seem to be clear, but deer are distant relatives of goats and sheep. It does seems clear that politics is the reason for the name Chronic Wasting Disease, just as the press has insisted on Mad Cow Disease, instead of referring to the true origins of the disease and admitting that it originated in sheep.
Dream on! Obviously, you have never worked as an election official.
If there is any way to bollux it up, someone is going to do it, whether it is failing to punch the chad out completely, or marking two (or more) choices on either a punch-out or a mark-on paper ballot. Other problems are erasures and failure to mark distinctly. Sigh.
Fortunately, the number of problems is usually only a tiny fraction of the total vote and election officers can usually figure out what the voter intended, so the vote isn't completely lost.
Texas allows two vehicles to enter an intersection on a green light, then proceed to make a left turn after the light turns. The last I knew, this was common law, not legislative.
As another poster has observed, this is necessary in big city traffic.
Byte Magazine also featured a Write Only Memory in one of their April issues. A wooden block with wires attached:-))
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When the gel cell battery in a 450 W TrippLite battery backup unit failed (after over 12 years in service), and a replacement battery was not readily available (I'm in the boonies), I bought a deep cycle battery at WalMart and hacked the connectors and cables. It has now been in service over four years with no problems, and has powered through many power sags and interruptions.
That worked so well that when the battery in a second, similar TrippLite failed (also after about 12 years), I did the same with it. It has powered two old computers through power problems for about two years. Both batteries are reasonably well ventilated and sit in polyethylene tubs. Though the users have been cautioned to top up the cells with distilled water occasionally, I don't think it has actually ever been done:-))
They're useful anyway because they're dense and have specific heats about four times less than water's.
Most organic liquids have a specific heat capacity much less than that of water; 0.2 to 0.25 is typical. That is not good. High density offsets this when comparison is made on a volumetric basis. Also, most organics have poor heat transfer coefficients compared to water. Coolers are usually designed to boil the heat transfer medium because heat transfer coefficient is much higher when the heated medium boils; a smaller cooling coil can be used.
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Yes, indeed, Motorola "got" the 6502. At least the right to build them, with little or no royalty to MOS Technology. Check your handy DigiKey catalog. Motorola 6502's have been in there for years. I don't need to "read the article" -- I read the original news stories in ECN and other mags "back in the day".
Motorola won their suit against MOS Tech because they took electron microscope shots of the silicon within the DIP packages and, voila, there were Moto's drawing numbers and logos right there on the silicon!
Innovative? Maybe. They did add a second index register, but at the expense of reducing both to eight bits, compared to the sixteen bit index register in the 6800. The PC (program counter, "Where am I") register was chopped to eight bits too. Bad from a programming standpoint, but their "innovations" did get them some clock speed. At the expense of needing more clock ticks. Advertising is everything -- our clock is faster!
Run up the electric bill. Especially if you use a Nixie tube display.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but as I recall the 4004 wasn't a single-chip microprocessor. Depending on the chip set used, it took from two to four chips to put together a working microprocessor.
Intel's first shur-nuff single-chip microprocessor was the gosh-awful, horribly slow 8008. They took so long to get past the 8008 and the only marginally better 8080 that Zilog brought out a much-improved, instruction set compatible version, the Z80, which dominated the microprocessor market for a number of years.
The first true computer-on-a-chip was Motorola's 6800, but they muffed their opportunity by waiting too long to market it and priced it too high. Worse, some employees stole their chip masks and modified the design, which they sold (cheaply, compared to the 8008 and 6800) as the 6502, which was adopted for the Apple. Motorola sued and got the 6502, which they continued to sell, but lost years of opportunity and the chance to dominate the whole market.
Yeah, I got one of these too. Since I've been self-employed for over 23 years, it looks like I would have already heard about this layoff. Sigh. I'm always the last to know!
The last time I checked, Utah was kinda north of Arizona -- and west of Colorado. Did somebody move it while I wasn't paying attention?
Hatch was Senior Senior from Utah for many years. I think he has a place in Wyoming now.
Idiotic legislation is hardly confined to the South. I don't know whether it's still on the books, but Indiana used to have a law defining pi as 3-1/7. There are tons of others, all over the world.
The folks who have to deal with The Gov call him Good Hair Rick, I understand.
Wrong. Connecticut gave you Dubya. His poppa brought him to Texas 'cuz there was a load of money to be made in the oil fields. Where did poppa go to retire: Maine. These folks aren't Texans. Never were, aren't, never will be.
I just about choked a couple of days ago when an interviewer called George W. a rancher. Yeah, right. BTW, I'm a fifth-generation Texan and our family have been ranching in Texas for well over 100 years.
And, no, I'm not a Demmycrap.
Some time ago I saw a TV program on this subject. The investigators claimed to have found objects which they associated with Cro-Magnon people, objects with strange marks on them; marks which appeared to be a crude lunar calendar. If true, Cro-Magnon folks were much more intelligent than their Neanderthal neighbors -- able to forecast dark (or light) nights, able to record information and able to engage in non-verbal communication. And outsmart their enemies as well as become more efficient hunters and providers.
... filtering stupid posts.
Nope. The price is the same it has been for a couple of years: $40. The $80 price is for the "Pro" version, which is double the price when there was no Pro version. Maybe more than double -- seems like SuSE Linux was $30 in 1999, and they even had some rebates for a couple of years.
I couldn't get Red Hat 5 to run on my box in 1999 because it had an SiS video card. SuSE 6.2 had a patched version of X Window System that worked for me. Though I missed some great features in Red Hat, I've been very pleased with the increasing maturity of SuSE Linux.
SuSE's download server appears to be throttled for free access users. Sometimes I can't even get a full YaST update, and it is sloooow too. I'm still living in 56K land, but the server only allows about a third of that, and it gets slower as the connection ages. SuSE offers better service for a fee -- something around $5 a month, I think, for a basic upgrade, more for business folks who need more and better.
SCO
Linden, UT
Re: subpoenas in re Linux and/or GNU software
Dear SCO-folks,
All Linux and GNU code, including comments, is freely available to you and anyone else who wishes to see it, and always has been. Every release and every tiny change is there. Likewise, our communications with our fellow developers with respect to these programs has been freely available for years.
So, what is it you want? You already have access to everything we have on the subject. Just download it like everybody else does.
And then show us exactly what you claim has been misapproprated from your code.
Now, go away so we can write some more first class programs.
Sincerely,
Tux and The Gnu
This is decidedly bending the topic, but ... Non-compete claims (and the "agreements" on which they are based) like this are evil.
What the defense attorney needs to do is to pound employers like this with claims of attempted involutary servitude -- they're attempting to prevent you from practicing your profession, denying you a livlihood -- trying to intimidate you into staying with them instead of changing jobs. As long as an employee doesn't start a directly competing business or take the prior employeer's art to a similar product, that employee ought (and used) to have the right to "what I know." Fortunately, to win such a countersuit, proof of preponderance of evidence is all that is needed, and (in the past at least) employees are usually favored over employers by juries, and, usually, judges.
Unfortunately, many attorneys are not willing to stick their necks out like this because corporate clients pay much better than do individuals, so they're always hoping for corporate business, which they're not likely to get if they go "business busting."
I have worked local elections here where mark sense machines are used. I don't know how it is done in other states, but this is how we do it here.
The ballots have precinct (voting place) identification and serial numbers on them, both of which are scanned along with the rest of the ballot. In primaries, the party name is coded on the ballot too. Records are kept of which ballots are issued and of those returned as spoiled (for which duplicates have been issued) and of unused ballots. The precinct election judges must return all spoiled ballots and unused ballots to the election clerk.
A vote can be changed by erasing and re-marking, but this is one of the most common problems in counting votes. It is almost impossible to completely erase the "old" vote. Any voter can declare a ballot to be spoiled and exchange it for another, but as an election official, I have seen many erasures. The counting machine usually rejects them (it is very sensitive), but the judges are usually able to determine what the voter intended, in which case white stickers are applied and/or a weak mark darkened and the ballot put back through the counting machine. At least two election judges must examine a questionable ballot and agree before this is done. There are also independent observers. All ballots are retained after being counted; they are later sampled and audited by an independent auditing committee.
To SCO (too skoe), v.t. (1) To attempt to collect royalties or fees for services or the use of properties to which the perpetrator has no rights, or to which the alleged rights are highly dubious. (2) To bully by means of expensive trial lawyers. Also, pulling a SCO (colloquial).
SCO-ed (skoad, skode), (1) past tense and past participle of To SCO (q.v.). (2) adj. Result of the action of a SCO-ing.
Then you would love Houston, Texas. Most of the Gulf Coast area in general, in fact. It too "just happened."
Streets/Roads that used to wander across the countryside have kept their names and it isn't unknown to change street names when going thru an intersection. Just like London and Paris, parts of some streets have been renamed - the part of Bellaire Blvd. east of Bellaire was renamed Holcombe Blvd. years ago for a Mayor.
Our ancestors learned their lessons well at Britannia's footstool, rebels tho' they may have been.
I have a Southwest Technical Products (SWTP) case with a 6809 board and Gimix floppy controller, vintage 1982. I also have two other 6809-based computers, one I built in 1981/82 the other in 1983. With both 5.25-inch and 8-inch floppy drives. My first 5.25-inch drives were Qumes - at $300 each (1981/82 dollars at that). I also have several IBM PC's (no hard disk) that I bought in 1985, some still in daily service, still doing the job they were originally bought to do.
BSE, or Mad Cow Disease, as the press has dubbed it, appears to have been transferred from sheep to cattle. About twenty-five ago Great Britain began allowing feed processors to use steamed sheep bone meal in cattle feed. BCE began to appear in bovines a few years later.
The disease in sheep is known as scrapie and has been known for around 250 years, according to the U. S. Department of Agriculture. The USDA even has an active program intended to eliminate scrapie. I am not aware of any definite link between scrapie and Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were.
How scrapie was transmitted to elk and deer doesn't seem to be clear, but deer are distant relatives of goats and sheep. It does seems clear that politics is the reason for the name Chronic Wasting Disease, just as the press has insisted on Mad Cow Disease, instead of referring to the true origins of the disease and admitting that it originated in sheep.
Dream on! Obviously, you have never worked as an election official.
If there is any way to bollux it up, someone is going to do it, whether it is failing to punch the chad out completely, or marking two (or more) choices on either a punch-out or a mark-on paper ballot. Other problems are erasures and failure to mark distinctly. Sigh.
Fortunately, the number of problems is usually only a tiny fraction of the total vote and election officers can usually figure out what the voter intended, so the vote isn't completely lost.
Texas allows two vehicles to enter an intersection on a green light, then proceed to make a left turn after the light turns. The last I knew, this was common law, not legislative.
As another poster has observed, this is necessary in big city traffic.
It is called "marketing." Sorcerer exudes mystery and magic, both hot sellers. Phliosopher reeks of academia, which doesn't sell at all.
Not really. It's just slow. Takes time for the filaments to heat up.
My favorite feature of this device is that typical bit capacity is 35% to 75% of "guaranteed" bit capacity.
Byte Magazine also featured a Write Only Memory in one of their April issues. A wooden block with wires attached :-))
When the gel cell battery in a 450 W TrippLite battery backup unit failed (after over 12 years in service), and a replacement battery was not readily available (I'm in the boonies), I bought a deep cycle battery at WalMart and hacked the connectors and cables. It has now been in service over four years with no problems, and has powered through many power sags and interruptions.
That worked so well that when the battery in a second, similar TrippLite failed (also after about 12 years), I did the same with it. It has powered two old computers through power problems for about two years. Both batteries are reasonably well ventilated and sit in polyethylene tubs. Though the users have been cautioned to top up the cells with distilled water occasionally, I don't think it has actually ever been done
They're useful anyway because they're dense and have specific heats about four times less than water's.
Most organic liquids have a specific heat capacity much less than that of water; 0.2 to 0.25 is typical. That is not good. High density offsets this when comparison is made on a volumetric basis. Also, most organics have poor heat transfer coefficients compared to water. Coolers are usually designed to boil the heat transfer medium because heat transfer coefficient is much higher when the heated medium boils; a smaller cooling coil can be used.