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Gartner Recommends Holding Onto The SCO Money

benploni writes "George Weiss of Gartner has published a paper with some interesting recommendations regarding SCO. They include 1) Keep a low profile and do not divulge details on Linux deployments. 2) Until a judgment in a case would unequivocally warrant it, Linux users should not pay SCO the license fees it has asked for to settle its allegations of infringement of intellectual property rights. 3) Do not permit SCO to audit your premises without legal authorization. 4) For customers of SCO Open Server and UnixWare, an unfavorable judgment could cause SCO to cease operations or sell itself. That could harm future support and maintenance. Just in case, prepare a plan for migrating to another platform within two years. There's more, but are the analysts finally catching on?"

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  1. How do I apply? by Chewie · · Score: 5, Funny

    Man, I want a job at the Gartner group. It seems their methods go something like:

    1) Something happens
    2) Side with big business and release a paper
    3) Wait until popular tide changes
    4) Release new paper contradicting old one.

    Shit, I could do that all day. Sign me up!

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    1. Re:How do I apply? by chill · · Score: 5, Funny

      Man, I want a job at the Gartner group. It seems their methods go something like:

      1) Something happens
      2) Side with big business and release a paper
      3) Wait until popular tide changes
      4) Release new paper contradicting old one.

      Shit, I could do that all day. Sign me up!


      It wouldn't surprise me if you were now sued for a DMCA violation -- reverse engineering their business practice!

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  2. Shhh..... by DaRat · · Score: 4, Funny

    Elmer Fudd: "Be vary vary quiet. We're deploying Linux!"

    1. Re:Shhh..... by shystershep · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm sorry sir, could you spell your last name for me again? Was that F-u-d-d, or F-U-D?

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    2. Re:Shhh..... by IntelliTubbie · · Score: 3, Funny

      So if Elmer Fudd used Lindows, would he call it "Windows"? That wascally wabbit ...

      Cheers,
      IT

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    3. Re:Shhh..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      Daffy (to Elmer): Shoot him now! Shoot him now!
      Bugs: You keep out of this; he doesn't have to shoot you now.
      Daffy: Yes, he does! (To Elmer) I demand that you shoot me now!
      Elmer: *Boom*
      The smoke from the gunshot clears.
      Daffy: Let's... run through that again, shall we?
      Bugs: All right.
      Daffy (as if reading from a script): Shoot him now, shoot him now.
      Bugs (same): You keep out of this, he doesn't have to shoot you now.
      Daffy: Aha! That's it, hold it right there: pronoun trouble. It's not 'He doesn't have to shoot you now," it's 'He doesn't have to shoot me now.' Well, I say, he does have to shoot me now. So shoot me now!!
      Elmer: *Boom*

  3. That's exactly why many call them anal-ysts by melted · · Score: 4, Funny

    'cause they don't know jack shit! We once had Gartner do market analysis for us, and when the guy came over to present it, a couple of his pie charts showed wrong percentages. The percentages he had on his slides were adding up to something like 112%, not 100. Of course he got caught and laughed at. We haven't used their services since then. :0) Our management can pull better numbers out of their ass.

  4. Oh really? by zonix · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean the same Gartner Group that recommended people to halt Linux deployment because of all the SCUD (SCO FUD)?

    Wait a minute ... no, no, none of this adds up at all! :-)

    z
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  5. What are they doing? by DroopyStonx · · Score: 1, Funny

    They know they have absolutely no case... so what is SCO trying to do, exactly?

    Are they just toying with the system for whatever reason? Is the CEO bored so they ask themselves, "How much BS can we get away with before we get arrested and/or the govt. tells us to stop?"

    What exactly is going on? They're not stupid. They know that their claims that "their" code was included in Linux distributions is completely asinine.

    That'd be like me running of and trying to sue all these corporations because I wanted to buy black shoelaces but purchased a remote control helicopter instead (or something else utterly stupid that wastes everyone's time)..

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  6. Re:Change your TCP/IP fingerprint by silentbozo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Anyone have any details on how to do this? I've got some systems that I'd like to cloak as classic MacOS machines to discourage script kiddies from poking at them. They're already locked down, but I figure the more indirection I can throw out, the more likely that they'll go off and bother some other poor sod.

  7. Tomorrow's headline... by The+Wookie · · Score: 5, Funny

    "SCO sues Gartner Group"

  8. Re:Change your TCP/IP fingerprint by Chibi+Merrow · · Score: 3, Funny

    So it's kind've like painting goat's blood over your door...

    I don't know, I just can't see McBride as the angel of death.

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  9. Of course analysts are "catching on" by csoto · · Score: 1, Funny

    It just took them a bunch of time to finish reading all the SCO stuff on /.

    But what do they think about emacs vs vi?

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  10. Re:Change your TCP/IP fingerprint by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 3, Funny

    More like a snow-angel of slightly bad day.

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  11. Re:Why wait? by Newspimp · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wang VSOS 7.53 seems to be very non controversial. I bet users could get great deals on ProDOS 3.3 for Apple ][. Maybe there are even a few copies of OS/2 3.1 hanging around somewhere? As long as we're at it, I haven't heard a single litigious thing from CP/M lately. Let's use that!

  12. Re:So.. by Dehumanizer · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean SCO *has* customers?

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  13. For those of you with SCO Unix products.... by overbyj · · Score: 4, Funny

    I also recommend that you run out to CompUSA quickly because I saw a copy of "SCO Unix in a Nutshell" on the discount shelf for only $5. You will need this after SCO goes out of business and you no longer have support.

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    1. Re:For those of you with SCO Unix products.... by mdmarkus · · Score: 2, Funny

      I tried to call for support from SCO once. You'll need it even if they _DO_ stay in business...

  14. But... by JamesP · · Score: 0, Funny

    If Microsoft==Gardner

    Then Gardner -> Pro-Linux

    Pro-Linux -> Anti-SCO

    And Microsoft-> SCO

    This doesn't match up... Guess we'll need NEO to balance the equation (or Agent Smith)

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  15. Thank you Mr. Obvious by orthogonal · · Score: 5, Funny
    3) Do not permit SCO to audit your premises without legal authorization.

    Huh? Are there actually companies stupid enough to say,
    "Sure, Darl, come right on over. Nah, a week of disruption as your people trample through our offices and server rooms is no problem!"

    "And you're looking to bill us $699 for each unix, linux, minix, or *bsd box, and for any microwave with an embedded controller? Hey, that's cool, you're the rightful owners after all!"
  16. Re:Red Herrings Eat Profits by ninewands · · Score: 1, Funny
    Quoth the poster:
    Especially impressive because it was pretty much Berkley defending itself. There were no industry players coming to bat.
    ... and please explain just how it is that the State of California, acting through the offices of the Regents of the University of California, is NOT equal to at least ONE 900 pound gorilla? Government doesn't need the support of "industry players" in the courtroom.

  17. SCO Information Minister by RenegadeTempest · · Score: 1, Funny

    SCO Information Minister McBride claims Garnter Group isn't even within 100 miles of the truth.

  18. Re:Red Herrings Eat Profits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    overextending yourself is a bad business model. They're like Rome!

    The crucial difference here is that Rome was, at one time during its history, feared and respected.

  19. This is obviously part of IBM's plan by obsid1an · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am waiting to see how long it will take for good old Darl to come out and say that this report is just IBM plotting again.

  20. Darl McBride is Toad from X Men by usurper_ii · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was watching X men and it hit me that the whole movie was a SCO analogy. Stay with me here. Bill Gates is Magneto and Darl McBride is Toad. Now I haven't figured out who Mystique is yet, but since she is the closest thing to a nude woman most Slashdotters are ever going to see, we all need to at least get a mental image of her at this point. Anyway, Magneto has all the important people rounded up at this big party -- these people are IBM, Novell, Red Hat big wigs, etc. -- and he has this huge electrical storm heading toward them (I have seen the movie three times now and I'm still not exactly sure what that electrical-storm thing is supposed to do?). Now here is where it gets good because Linus is Wolverine (Logan) and off on the side, as this big storm comes, he is battling Toad. First, Wolverine makes it look like he killed himself by starting to talk about incorporating DRM into Linux, but this is all blowing smoke up everyone's ass, 'cause Toad, thinking Wolverine is dead, goes up to him and starts looking through his pockets for some code to steal, but Wolverine shoots his knives out of his fingers and rams them right through Toad...you can see them sticking out of his back, and as the camera zooms in, you see blood stained, cool-looking shiny metal glistening in the moonlight. Now with Toad out of the way Wolverine turns his sights toward stopping Magneto and his electrical storm-cloud thing speeding towards everyone. Wolverine quickly finds the computer controlling the storm and starts to do some hacking on it to stop the storm, but when he brings up a DOS window to run a script in, the damn thing gets a BSOD...forcing Logan to do a crtl-alt-delete on the computer...three times. Luckily, the reboot stops the electrical storm-cloud thing, but Logan does feel a little robbed that it was Magneto's own poor software that really did him in!

    To be continued....

  21. Re:Slow learners by BigRedFish · · Score: 5, Funny

    In summary:

    • Don't pay invoices presented by companies with whom you have no business, unless/until legally compelled to do so by a court.
    • Do not consent to a search of your home/business, especially by a private entity, unless/until compelled to do so by court order.

    Thanks, Gartner. That's the kind of hard-hitting, insightful business advice we need in this management-by-Ziff-Davis world. Maybe next month they can do a helpful piece on not paying a parking ticket until you've been issued one, and then only if it was issued by a real Dept. of Traffic officer, and not some homeless guy who wrote the citation on a napkin.

  22. Corollary to Godwin's Law by amplt1337 · · Score: 1, Funny

    As the hours passed in any given day approach 24, the probability of a Slashdot story regarding SCO being posted approaches one.

    At such time as this story is posted, refreshing Slashdot is not necessary until work next morning, as no further productive news will be posted on that day.

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  23. Too Late! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
    1) Keep a low profile and do not divulge details on Linux deployments.

    Oops, I already emailed SCO and dared them to sue me...

  24. Re:Change your TCP/IP fingerprint by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2, Funny
    Great idea. Let's see some hacker try to figure out how to break into my Commodore 64:

    POKE 63452
    POKE 63451
    POKE 63450
    . . .
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  25. Another suit! by LilMikey · · Score: 1, Funny

    I can see tomorrow's headline already: "SCO Sues Gartner"; claims ownership of 'letters and numbers and stuff' used to create the report citing similar reports produced by SCO in the past. It appears most of these allegations stem from similar comments strewn across the reports such as "we are so screwed" and "hurry up and sell that before it goes back down."

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  26. Re:Red Herrings Eat Profits by gnu-generation-one · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Just in case, prepare a plan for migrating to another platform within two years."

    Why do they need top publish this advice on a website? Can't they just email SCO's last remaining customer directly?

  27. Re:Change your TCP/IP fingerprint by crawling_chaos · · Score: 2, Funny

    For the longest time I had Konqueror reporting that I was browsing using Mosaic .01A on a Coleco Adam. Used to drive our webmaster nuts when he ran the user agent reports for the month.

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  28. Re:Why wait? by YOU+LIKEWISE+FAIL+IT · · Score: 3, Funny
    company can fold at any time (e.g., meteor hitting their headquarters), for example.

    The solution is clear - RAICHS: Redundant Arrays of Inexpensive Corporate Headquarters. Which slashdotter will be first to market with this exciting technology?!

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  29. Just a thought by EmagGeek · · Score: 2, Funny

    Brand New IBM Edge Server: $4500

    MiniCluster of Opteron Servers: $85000

    Cicso infrastructure found on eBay: $2100

    Big screen TV for watching an irrelevant $200M software company take on a $150B worldwide behemoth, without a leg to stand on: $3000

    Seeing the guts of the cockroach squirt out from around IBM's Gucci Loafer: PRICELESS

    There are some things money can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard....

  30. Obviously... by Rocky · · Score: 2, Funny

    ...Carly Fiorina is Mystique...

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  31. Re:Software Company? Got jobs? by shanen · · Score: 2, Funny

    So a few thousand /.ers should apply for the position? How long would it take SCO to figure out their leg was being pulled?

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