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Red Sea Urchins Nearly Immortal

varjag writes "A study by scientists from Oregon State University and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory have revealed that Red Sea urchins are practically immortal. While they can die from diseases or predator attacks, it seems that their life span has no biological limit. Specimen as old as 100 and 200 years have been discovered, while previously they were expected to last no longer than 7-15 years."

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  1. In case of slashdotting, here's the text by scumbucket · · Score: 2, Informative

    CORVALLIS, Ore. - A new study has concluded that the red sea urchin, a small spiny invertebrate that lives in shallow coastal waters, is among the longest living animals on Earth - they can live to be 100 years old, and some may reach 200 years or more in good health with few signs of age.

    The red sea urchin appears to be one of the longest living animals on Earth, with a possible lifespan of up to 200 years, according to a new study by marine zoologists at Oregon State University. (Photo by Richard Strathmann, Friday Harbor Laboratory)
    In other words, an individual red sea urchin that hatched on the day in 1805 that Lewis and Clark arrived in Oregon may still be thriving - and even breeding. The research was just published in a professional journal, the U.S. Fishery Bulletin, by scientists from Oregon State University and the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory. It may have important implications for management of a commercial fishery and our understanding of marine biology, as well as challenge some erroneous assumptions about the life cycle of this never-say-die marine species.

    It used to be believed that red sea urchins lived to be only seven to 15 years of age, experts say. But the newest findings are based on the use of two completely different techniques of determining sea urchin ages - one biochemical and the other nuclear - that produced the same results. The studies show red sea urchins can have a vast lifespan surpassing that of virtually all terrestrial and most marine animal species, and seem to show almost no signs of senescence, or age-related dysfunction, right up until the day that something kills them.

    "No animal lives forever, but these red sea urchins appear to be practically immortal," said Thomas Ebert, a marine zoologist at OSU. "They can die from attacks by predators, specific diseases or being harvested by fishermen. But even then they show very few signs of age. The evidence suggests that a 100-year-old red sea urchin is just as apt to live another year, or reproduce, as a 10-year-old sea urchin."

    The more mature red sea urchins, in fact, appear to be the most prolific producers of sperm and eggs, and are perfectly capable of breeding even when incredibly old. There is no sea urchin version of menopause.

    Some of the new studies on this species were done with funding support from the Pacific States Fishery Commission to gain more information about the species, its life cycle, biology, survival rate, growth patterns, and perhaps shed light on why the red sea urchin resource was declining in some areas.

    This small marine animal, which is found in shallow Pacific Ocean coastal waters from Alaska to Baja California and also elsewhere in the world's oceans, lives by grazing quietly on marine plants and deterring most predators with its pointy spines. Historically, it had been considered a nuisance.

    "In the U.S. in the 1960s, sea urchins were considered the scourge of the sea, a real menace," Ebert said. "They ate plants in kelp forests and people believed they were at least partly responsible for the decline of that marine ecosystem, so they tried to poison them, get rid of them however possible."

    But in the 1970s a commercial fishery developed in the U.S. based on sea urchins, which were sold primarily to Japan where their sex organs were considered a delicacy. They brought high prices, and at one point in the 1990s were one of the most valuable marine resources in California.

    Ebert did some early work on the red sea urchin, along with colleagues Steve Schroeter at the University of California, Santa Barbara, and John Dixon, of the California Coastal Commission. It quickly became apparent that sea urchins, among other things, grew a lot more slowly and lived a lot longer than had been believed. "Sea urchins live as male and females, and fertilization of eggs takes place while they float in the ocean," Ebert said. "The larvae then feed for a month or more before turning into tiny sea urchins."

    The red sea urchin, in

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  2. This explains a lot by Fux+the+Penguin · · Score: 4, Funny

    The other day I was walking by the ocean, and noticed two red sea urchins sword fighting by the shore. One beat down the other, then said "In the end, there can be only one" and chopped off the loser's head. Then there was this lightning or something, and the street lights blew out.

  3. We have found the secret to immortality! by fain0v · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now I just have to find someone that can graft a human head to a sea urchin.

  4. Someone really should ... by the+real+darkskye · · Score: 5, Funny

    Combine scorpian, red sea urchin and transistor growing e-coli DNA and produce a walking, stinging, immortal indestructable computer ... which will be obsolite by the time it hatches

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  5. What by 4of12 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The key to their longevity appears to be always growing, but ever so slowly.

    I could see where age guessing of a slowly-changing organism would be difficult and that they would corroborate their results with nuclear information because biochemical indicators are so flat.

    This is also consistent with Duncan MacLeod and the other Immortals being under 40.

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    1. Re:What by buttahead · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The key to their longevity appears to be always growing, but ever so slowly.

      acutally, consistant isn't indicated as the reason for long life... evolution can explain the age of these guys.

      Anything that happens after a creature stops reproducing does not contribute to evolution. So, typicaly you see creatures die soon after they stop reproducing, as there is no more need for them to exist. This has been indicated in women recently in small studies, but also makes some sence if you think about it.

      The fact that the urchins just keep on putting out sperm and eggs means that longevity can help them spread their genes more than any short lived urchin. and viola... if there is any age after which the urchins do go through a menopause... death for them will probably be within a few years after.

    2. Re:What by azav · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Um, no.

      Look at the factors that affect vertebrate aging. Aming them the telomeres falling off the ends of our DNA, Oxidative damage to cellular structures ala free radicals, etc...

      We are VASTLY more complex organisms than echinoderms on the most fundamental levels (bilateral symmetry vs radial) and what holds true for their life forms may not hold true to ours.

      FYI, radial vs bilateral symmetry in animals is a very very fundamental distingiushing factor with regards to evolutionary development. A long long long long long long time ago, there may have been a common ancestor for the urchin (an echinoderm) and us (a vertebrate). Symmetry is so fundamental that organisms to not evolve and change their symmetry. This shows that the several hundred million years of evolution that lead to the Humans and Red Sea Urchins of today may indicate that what provides immortality on one may not provide immortality in others.

      Start checking for repair mechanisms of the DNA and cellular organelles and telomere length in young and old urchins.

      Also, what about cancer? All vertebrates (even dinosaurs) get cancer. Do these echnoderms? The physiology is so vastly different between us and them that many things may not apply.

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  6. Sea urchin immortals?!?! by Picass0 · · Score: 4, Funny


    Oh great, now they are going to have poorly rehearsed swordfights and go on rants about "the prize".

    In the end, there can be only one sea urchin!

  7. What if? by torpor · · Score: 3, Funny

    We're only seeing the 'larval' stage of these organisms, which happens to be a few hundred years old ... and the next stage is a monstrous life-stealing alien invader of Earth, eating brains and demolishing cities?

    That would be cool. Hope its not for a few hundred years though, that would suck...

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  8. Nearly immortal? by wizarddc · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Because 200 years is like FOREVER! When I heard nearly immortal, I thought theyw ould say soemthing like 500, 1000, even 5000 years old. Not 200. Don't some sea turtles live that long? Do we call them "nearly" immortal?

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    1. Re:Nearly immortal? by fuzzybunny · · Score: 2, Insightful


      On the scale of a sea urchin, that's pretty damn close. Think Lobsters--the things could essentially keep growing to massive sizes, but they get eaten, stepped on, poisoned, diseased, shoved into massively deep ocean trenches and crushed into little tiny balls of lobster meat, whatnot.

      Rather, take the number with a grain of salt, and re-read the article while assuming laboratory conditions. There's a pretty big gray area between pure environmental factors which cause death (falling victim to the food chain, for example) and an organism's own slow decline because stuff just stops working after a while.

      I don't remember who said it, but the gist was that animals are supremely inefficient beings, because if they'd been designed properly, they'd just live forever through cell regeneration.

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    2. Re:Nearly immortal? by fredrikj · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't remember who said it, but the gist was that animals are supremely inefficient beings, because if they'd been designed properly, they'd just live forever through cell regeneration.

      No. Cell degeneration is part of the design; it results in old generations vanishing and getting replaced by new ones, ensuring that evolution makes progress. This even helps human society evolve :)

    3. Re:Nearly immortal? by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 3, Funny

      No. Cell degeneration is part of the design; it results in old generations vanishing and getting replaced by new ones, ensuring that evolution makes progress. This even helps human society evolve :)

      That reminds me. I'm so glad all my grandparents are finally dead.

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  9. Re:Immortal? No, just like human lifespan by I+Be+Hatin' · · Score: 2, Informative
    So they have recorded lifespans of 100-200 years old? Isn't this just like humans?

    The oldest documented human lifespan is slightly over 120 years. That's nowhere near 200. Moreover, from the article (emphasis mine):

    A new study has concluded that the red sea urchin, a small spiny invertebrate that lives in shallow coastal waters, is among the longest living animals on Earth - they can live to be 100 years old, and some may reach 200 years or more in good health with few signs of age.

    Note the bolded part. You can't find me even one 80-year old human with few signs of age...

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  10. Lobsters too! by squidwanker · · Score: 2, Informative

    Lobsters also show no signs of senescence. Just disease and predation limit their lifespans.

  11. Urchins are well protected by barakn · · Score: 4, Interesting
    and so if there's no biochemical reason for them to die then they could live to a ripe old age.

    A friend of mine was swimming off a beach in Bali and stepped on a long-spined urchin (unknown species) with both feet, which caused immediate and excruciating pain. After his brother helped him on shore, the Balinese natives broke the spines off right where they protruded from the bottoms of his feet. Then they poured lemon juice on the puncture sights and started pounding the soles of his feet with rocks, for hours. The pain was so excruciating he became delirious and started laughing.

    The treatment broke up and dissolved the spines below the skin, and that probably saved his life. Apparently there's some sort of toxin, as he was extremely sick for the next 2 weeks. Had the spines remained embedded in his feet, there would have been enough toxin to kill him, a doctor told him later.

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  12. Re:Immortal? No, just like human lifespan by Zordak · · Score: 2, Funny
    You can't find me even one 80-year old human with few signs of age...

    Two words: Dick Clark.
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  13. Re:Does this mean that Highlanders.. by barakn · · Score: 2, Informative

    They can move, on hundreds of tiny little tube feet.

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  14. Hazy logic? by brianjcain · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This just in -- housefly researchers determine that human beings are near immortal, with natural lifespans in excess of two months.

  15. Re:urchin pussy a delicacy? by Haeleth · · Score: 2, Funny

    So, let me get this straight, in Japan, an urchin's pussy is considered a delicacy?

    Your point being? I believe some Americans enjoy eating bulls' testicles, and they don't even have the excuse of belonging to an inscrutable oriental culture.

  16. Re:Immortal? No, just like human lifespan by Haeleth · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The oldest documented human lifespan is slightly over 120 years.

    I take it you mean the largest figure for a human lifespan accepted by modern medical science, right? I can think of some pretty old documents about human lifespans that beat 120 years hands down... most of the book of Genesis, for example. ;)

  17. Tomorrow's news: Sea Urchins extinct. by dbirchall · · Score: 2, Funny

    As soon as the nuts who take shark cartilege and all manner of other stuff in hopes of living past 120 hear about this, they'll wipe out the sea urchins...

  18. Re:Immortal? No, just like human lifespan by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Funny
    You can't find me even one 80-year old human with few signs of age...

    Two words: Dick Clark.

    He said human!
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  19. Here we are, born in the seas! by jfisherwa · · Score: 2, Funny

    We're the urchins of the aquaverse!

  20. Re:I wish I owned a biotech startup by whorfin · · Score: 2, Informative

    Micheal Jackson already has a lab full of these creatures being studied, in his quest for immortality

    Shouldn't that be immorality?

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