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Japanese Fans Vote On Top 30 NES Games
Thanks to 1UP for their report on a Japanese poll rating the top 30 Famicom (NES) games of all time, as conducted for an upcoming Tokyo museum exhibition. The report comments that this poll is "an interesting look at the titles that were big in the early days of Japanese gaming, as well as what's held up in retrospect", and the Dragon Quest series (Dragon Warrior in the U.S.) is particularly well-represented, since "...all four Famicom games in the series made the top 10, compared to only one Final Fantasy." Also pointed out: "It's also interesting to see what's ahead of Super Mario Brothers 3, the most popular NES game in the United States. In Japan, they'd rather play Ice Climber and Balloon Fight."
Japanese and American game tastes are not that different. Consider:
Super Mario Brothers - 2
Mario Brothers - 3
The Legend of Zelda - 4
Final Fantasy III - 7
I've never owned a Nintendo yet have played all these. Definitely deserving of their placement in the top 10.
Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.
I'm a pretty avid NES collector. I don't play any systems more advanced and so my view of 'goodness of games' is basically relative to other NES games.
I think certain franchines (such as Final Fantasy) have gone on to do wonderful things, but all things considered, I feel that "NES Dragon Warrior IV" is probably a better game than "NES Final Fantasy".
I wonder how much of this list is influenced by how these games were further developed on other platforms. Surprisingly, it doesn't seem terribly bias in that catergory. However, I believe it was done in the US, we'd have exactly that problem.
I'm surprised 'Destiny of an Emperor' didn't make the list, because that was a really solid title. Also, there are several sports titles (like the excellent Famicom-only Soccer games) which aren't listed. I would also expect a historical strategy game like 'Romance of the Three Kingdoms' or some other Koei title.
I'm exceptionally surprised that 'Goonies II' made the list because that's a real random footnote in the history of NES games.
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How did 'The Goonies II' make that list ... :)
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It's kind of funny because the Japanese Government actually passed a law that required DQ to be released on either Sundays or holidays because so many people skipped out on their jobs and school to purchase it.
Third section down under "How popular is the Dragon Quest series".
Dragon Warrior IV is probably the most complete game ever developed for the NES. The cart size claimed to be 8 megabytes, but discussion on emulation boards suggested that it was only 4 megs. That's still huge compared to most of the games. There is excellent gameplay, an expansive universe, multiple NPCs, several chapters of gameplay, an interesting storyline, and some beautiful graphics and music. It was the last big NES project that I know of and it still usually sells for $30-$40 online. I would definately rank it as probably the best well-crafted complete game. Enix made some good stuff. * sigh *
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**Action**
/Uninvited - Really cool games.
SMB I (Spent countless hours exploring secrets), II (At the time it was very weird and III (Pinnacle),
MegaMan 1 (challenging),2 (most popular) & 3 (pinnacle) (The rest are just fillers)
Castlevania 1 (Challenging), 2 (What's up with those weird clues?) 3 (Pinnacle),
Ninja Gaiden I (Cinema Displays!!!!), II(Great Music, action, etc), III (Hmmm.. Paralax scrolling and a Strider-type sword.. kool)
Shadow of the Ninja and S.C.A.T (Great games from Natsume)
Journey To Silius (Sunsoft's masterpiece, after Blaster Master, Fester and Batman - Not counting Return of the Joker
Contra (WOOWWWWW...), Super C (Double Wooow...)
**Adventure**
Zelda I (Dodongo.. what kind of name is that) II (Very challenging, great graphics.. masterpiece)
Metroid & Kid Icarus (VERY Unique games!!)
Crystalis (Much better and Refined than Zelda)
The Inmortal (Wow, american companies can make games!!)
Bionic Commando (Hitler?!?!?!?)
Goonies - Really cool...
**Beat'em up**
Double Dragon I (challenging), II (Fun!! 2 Player action), II (What happened here??)
River City Ramsom (Who can't forget fighting the final stage while listening to the Double Dragon BGM)
Battletoads - Hard and Weird!!!
**Shooters (Not the like of Doom/Quake we're talking THE original shooters)**
Zanac (Wow that's intense!!!)/Guardian Legend (Intensity with great graphics and RPG/Adventure)
Gradius (Hard) / Lifeforce (Cool.. 30 lives, I guess they're making up for the first one)
Gyruss (Really cool)
**Sports**
Baseball Stars (Greatest baseball game on 8 bit.. first to create your own players)
Tecmo Bowl (Just plain fun - Hide your controller from your oponent)
Baseball - Just fun.
Track n'Field - 1st to do In game adverstisement???, Game within a game (gradius).
Excitebike... (track editor??)
Mike Tyson's Punch Out (Remember, dodge Mike for 1:30)
**RPG**
Dragon Warrior I (What's this weird game...), II (Hmmm.. I'm kinda liking this type of games).. III (Masterpiece)
Final Fantasy - (Wow.. cool RPG..with Graphics!)
ShadowGate / DejaVu
Ultima Quest of The Avatar - Really LOONG.
Startropics.. Fun in the islands.
OK, many might be surprised to see these two up there, but it's not surprising at all.
Think about it, what are your favorite games from NES/Genesis to play with your friends? If you're like me and my friends, it was Contra, Streets of Rage, etc.
What do these games all have in common? - 2 players simultaneously! Play Halo on co-op mode, Mario Kart: Double Dash, hell, even the original mario bros was a so-so game that became SO much more fun with 2 players on at once. Ice Climber was simply from an era before NES became really popular (when games were labeled as part of the "Action Series," "Sports Series," etc.)
I'm ecstatic that Ice Climber took such a high position... It was underappreciated in the US at the time, where the game playing public wasn't ready to appreciate the extremely japanese characters. As 2-player games went it was in a class of its own, especially in the early days. It was a 2-player game where you could help your fellow team-member or hinder them, where you weren't allowed to attack them directly but you could really mess them up. You could cause them to die by scrolling too high, or you could give their jump a huge boost by jumping up underneath them. You could hammer away at bricks under their feet, or hammer away at enemies about to attack them. You could wait for your friend to join you in the bonus level, or you could heartlessly skip ahead and take all of the plunder for yourself.
It was never clear if you were supposed to be friends or foes, and that lack of distinction kept the game sessions hot and fun.
Personally, I hope someone in Japan sees this list and makes a GBA version of Ice-Climber, so that 4 people can work with / compete against eachother to reach the top of that mountain alive. It was a genius design then, and it would be a breath of fresh air now.
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I don't know who did the list, but they can't count. Super Mario Bros. 3 received 465 votes while Balloon Fight only got 461. Last I checked 465 > 461.
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Dude, when those games came out Excitebike(1986), Goonies II (87/88) they broke a lot of ground.
Excitebike had its own track editor and the animation was off the hook. I remember people crashing on purpose just to laugh at the animation
The Goonies was MASSIVE (It was one of the first games that made you keep track of your location with your own map -I made my own goonies map-). Of course, if you think about newer games (16 bit Super Metroid, PSX Simphony of the Night and the GBA Castlevanias), this game is not long at all.
I don't know your age, but usually situating yourself in that year, and comparing it with what you had seen before does the job to make a good assessment of the impact of the game in its time.
I'm pretty sure that in 2018 people will make comments like this about the innovative games of today, but hey... C'est la vie.
I really enjoyed digging up my old system right before leaving for college. It'd been lost for years despite frantic searches, but I managed to locate it in the dark depths of my basement.
Funny story: I went to FuncoLand to pick up some games that I always wanted but never had. I mentioned my old console and the kid behind the counter rolled his eyes, "It's not worth a lot." I informed him that I would sooner cut out my liver than sell my NES and he perked right up and told me all about his top NES picks, which I immediately purchased as well.
My picks for action RPG:
Faxanadu
Wizards and Warriors
He's right. I look it up and found that Japan has a current population of around 127 million. If you use a tool like Creative Research's Sample Size Calculator ( http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm )you'd find that you only need a sample size 15,092 to obtain a 99% confidence level of accuracy +/- 1.05% If there really was 15,670 people surveyed [the number of votes], that's pretty good work.
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In SMB3, they use the original Mario Bros. level as a means to present Vs. Mode. It's not the actual game, though the GBA version (Super Mario Advance 4) contains the original Mario Bros. as do all Super Mario Advance games.
Bubble Bobble? I don't even want to think about the number of hours I played that game when I was little. Or how excited I got when I found the arcade version in the Student Union.
I guess that's part of what makes Nintendo so cool - the sense of nostalgia that comes along with getting to play a game you haven't played in years. Or, being able to meet people you didn't grow up with, but talking about video games and how cool Excitebike was. I'm sure the same thing will happen with Playstation 2 when it becomes archaic technology.