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Congress Expands FBI Powers

Dave writes "Well, since the Patriot Act II never got off the ground, looks like Congress has done the Justice Department a favor, according to Wired News, and added in some of the most controversial provisions into a non-descript intelligence spending bill. Now the FBI can subpoena information about you from practically any business or organization - without approval or permission from a judge, and with a gag order on the targeted organization. These spending bills are generally considered confidential and usually are not subject to public debate, so despite the far-reaching implications of these new powers, it's not being publicized like the Patriot Act was. Time to get out my patriotic hat and pin before it's too late."

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  1. They are at it again by t0ny · · Score: 0, Flamebait
    totalitarian regime change, here we come!

    Your rights removal has been courtesy of the RNC. If you want freedom, become a millionaire like everybody else.

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  2. Re:Conservatives Sell Out Again by JPelorat · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    "If, however, you view the singular goal of the Republican party as the expropriation of taxpayer wealth for the enrichment of the entrenched industrial elite, and all of the cultural conservatism and libertarian rhetoric as tactics to achieve this goal, then this has been the most successful Republican administration ever."

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    OMG, that's the best conspiracy line yet. Yes, you caught us. It's been a rollercoaster ride over 4 decades, a carefully orchestrated whole-cloth infiltration of all levels of Federal and State government, a project that has seen the cooperation of intervening Democratic administrations, no less, and until now, no one ever noticed.. Congrats, you alone had the intelligence, breadth of vision, and foresight to figure it out.

    Pffft, hahahaha.

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  3. Re:Vote for Republicans. by johnnyb · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    You are quite correct in your assessment. Unfortunately, it's even worse with democrats.

  4. Re:More? by NickDngr · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    it's not like the fbi wasn't running amok yesterday though... yesterday they were justifying spying on anti-war prosters by claiming that lawful dissent was potentially terrorism. their big argument to support this assertion? anti-war demonstrators have attended "training camps"... and terrorists often attend "training camps". ergo: protesters == terrorists.

    Well these hippies can't have it both ways. Protestors can't set fires, destroy property, and cause havoc in the streets and then not expect law enforcement to take some proactive measures to try to prevent lawless acts.

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  5. Re:More? by johnnyb · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Well, considering these places teach how to engage in illegal acts to promote their causes (peaceful, but illegal - like blockading), I don't see this reference as too far off.

    There is a place for intentional breakage of the law, but it is few and far between. To have camps that teach how to do it as part of regular protest action is just plain wrong.

  6. Re:This is blown way out of proportion by Lord+Omlette · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    What crime has Jose Padilla been charged with?

    Wow, he's Puerto Rican AND Mooslime? We'd better throw the book at him! Damn straight, don't mess with the US of A!

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  7. Re:More? by johnnyb · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    "Yea, blocking people from going into a federal building and blowing one up. That's pretty much the same thing, huh?"

    Never said that. Thanks for playing.

  8. Re:well by spacecowboy420 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The first insightful troll. I for one do not believe Ann Coulter receives the right amount of "recognition".

    Thank you Ann Coulter Troll.

    Some Ann Coulter "gems":

    "When contemplating college liberals, you really regret once again that John Walker is not getting the death penalty. We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed too. Otherwise they will turn out to be outright traitors."

    And 3 days after 9/11

    "We know who the homicidal maniacs are.They are the ones cheering and dancing right now. We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity."

    USA!!!USA!!!USA!!!USA!!!USA!!!USA!!!USA!!!USA!!!

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  9. Re:well by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The amusing thing about this is the ones cheering and dancing were a number of Israeli Mossad agents arrested when they were seen by a woman filming the collapse of the WTC and high-fiving each other. The arrested persons were connected to, IIRC, a New Jersey firm, the owner of which suddenly closed up shop and ran back to Israel. At least one or two of the arrested persons admitted to being Mossad.

    Reports from the media indicate a massive Israeli spy ring operating in the US, some of whose agents were following the alleged WTC hijackers around - and presumably knew of their plans. Israel deigned to send a warning to the US, IIRC, about two weeks before 9/11.

    Can you say agents provocateurs? I knew you could.

    The neocons wanted a "Pearl Harbor" in order to foist their world conquest plans on a panicking public. Their Israeli co-conspirators obliged.

    Simple as that. A "false flag" operation - you give some bozos an idea, make sure they get what they need, ignore any warnings passed up from counterintelligence, and - you'll pardon the phrase - "Wallah!" You have your "Pearl Harbor" - "the day when everything changed". Yeah, right.

    Ann Coulter is one of the biggest frauds around - next to pill-popping, pill-dealing Rush Limburger Cheesehead.

    There's a sucker born every minute. And they all vote.

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  10. Re:well by spacecowboy420 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    I agree, except for one point. The biggest frauds are, as Al Franken would call them, the dittoheads. Just because of their sheer numbers. At least the lead frauds are acting on their own free will. The dittoheads just follow them around saying "Amen", accepting all that is said, challenging nothing, and blindly following without a single original thought.

    I just wish they'd hurry up and pass out the kool-aid.

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  11. like that old saying by ShadowRage · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Communism and totalarianism wont use bombs or missles or guns to take over, they infiltrate, brainwash and climb to political power, they use society and politics as their weapons.
    and sadly, it's beginning to look this way.

    anyone know of any private islands or atolls for sale?