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L.A. County Bans Use Of "Master/Slave" Term

SlashChick writes "In an interesting twist on political correctness, L.A. County has banned the use of the terms 'Master/Slave' (commonly used to denote hard drive arrangements.) According to Snopes.com, 'someone within the County bureaucracy... had taken offense at "master/slave" references and complained to the board.' L.A. County now requires that vendors working with the county remove all 'master/slave' references. Incredible. Read the full story."

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  1. For the love of all that's good and holy by __aavhli5779 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Funny that my first instinct was to check Snopes, and what do you know but that's the provided link. Shows how patently ridiculous this story seemed at first.

    Hasn't this obsession with sanitizing speech become a total farce? What's next? Will we not be able to have male and female ends on our 1/4" audio cable for fear of offending the transgendered? How the hell am I supposed to shop for wires now?

    1. Re:For the love of all that's good and holy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      shh, don't give them any ideas.

    2. Re:For the love of all that's good and holy by cgenman · · Score: 5, Funny

      Will we not be able to have male and female ends on our 1/4" audio cable for fear of offending the transgendered?

      There have always been male / female converters for cabling. If only humans were so lucky.

    3. Re:For the love of all that's good and holy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      What's next? Will we not be able to have male and female ends on our 1/4" audio cable...

      I'll never forget the day my coworker and I were talking by speakerphone with a coworker, doing tech support. He asked if the equipment had a "male or female" end. She, puzzled, responded "what's the difference?"

      I had to leave the room as he explained "the female one has a hole..."

    4. Re:For the love of all that's good and holy by donscarletti · · Score: 5, Funny
      There have always been male / female converters for cabling. If only humans were so lucky.

      It's called a "strap on"

      I realise that I run the risk of being modded (-1, Obscene) but I just had to say it.

      --
      When Argumentum ad Hominem falls short, try Argumentum ad Matrem
    5. Re:For the love of all that's good and holy by zephc · · Score: 5, Funny

      While they're at it, change all the web forms in the world so that they don't say SUBMIT, as it's far too S&M. Perhaps the generic ENTER or OK would do, they're just not kinky enough though.

      --
      "I would say that 99 per cent of what my father has written about his own life is false." - L. Ron Hubbard Jr.
    6. Re:For the love of all that's good and holy by goodie3shoes · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is linguistic revisionism, and it has dangers. If you eliminate terms from the language because they make someone uncomfortable, you allow the public to forget or erase history. I think this ultimately does a disservice to those who were oppressed.

      --
      BSA: "Would you like a free Software Audit"? me: "No, thanks. My software is all Free".
    7. Re:For the love of all that's good and holy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I personally would like to see the word "motherboard" replaced with the more politically correct "caregiverboard"

    8. Re:For the love of all that's good and holy by bludger · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As a non-American, it didn't even occur to me that the problem they had with the master-slave couplet had anything to do with blacks and whites. I just thought that they were offended by the concept of slavery. If it is true that they see the master-slave relationship as being non other than the white-black relationship, then these people are truly racist.

  2. No Master/Slave? by Ridgelift · · Score: 5, Funny

    To verify that this wasn't a hoax or an internal joke which mistakenly escaped to the wider world of the Internet, we called the Purchasing and Contract Services division for the County of Los Angeles, and they informed us that yes, they did issue this message, and yes, it was meant seriously. The representative we spoke with said that someone within the County bureaucracy -- a person who probably didn't understand computer terminology -- had taken offense at 'master/slave' references and complained to the board, whereupon the Internal Services Department was obligated to issue notification requesting that vendors refrain from using that terminology.

    Okay, how about "Pimp/Bitch"? The guy who recommended this needs to be fired before his ideas continue to procreate.

    1. Re:No Master/Slave? by Cordath · · Score: 5, Funny

      Pimp/Bitch is actually a bit of an improvement, since it implies that the controlling device is actually providing an interface to the services of the controlled device. (This is not implied by Master/Slave unfortunately)

      I'm not in L.A. (thank the powers that be), but I strongly recommend we move to this new terminology nationally for the sake of clarity and political correctness.

    2. Re:No Master/Slave? by FryGuy1013 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Except that the primary/secondary notation is already used for the cable arrangment. Currently it's the:

      Primary Master
      Primary Slave
      Seconndary Master
      Secondary Slave
      Tertiary Master ...

      So we should be calling them the Primary Primary drive?

      --
      bananas like monkeys.
  3. My response to the county by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Informative

    From: Dave Schroeder <das@doit.wisc.edu>
    Subject: Computer terminology
    Date: November 24, 2003 12:27:14 PM CST
    To: jsandoval@isd.co.la.ca.us
    Cc: seconddistrict@bos.co.la.ca.us, thirddistrict@bos.co.la.ca.us, fourthdistrict@bos.co.la.ca.us, fifthdistrict@bos.co.la.ca.us, firstdistrict@bos.co.la.ca.us

    Regarding the recent memo sent to a county vendor regarding "master/slave", it may interest you to know that this is, and has been for years, the accepted and only terminology that refers to the hierarchy of the most commonly used computer hard drive interface in the world, known as "IDE" or "ATA". It may also interest you to know one of the definitions of "master" and "slave" according to Merriam-Webster:

    master - 3 a master mechanism or device
    slave - 5 a device that is directly responsive to another

    And from the definitive reference on the English language, Oxford University's Oxford English Dictionary:

    http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry /00303043
    master - e. A component of a system which controls or regulates the operation of one or more of the system's other components. Cf. SLAVE n. 5b. See also master-slave, sense C. 6.

    http://dictionary.oed.com/cgi/entry/00227171
    slave - c. techn. Used to denote a subsidiary device, esp. one which is controlled by, or which follows accurately the movements of, another device.

    master-slave a. (attrib.) (b) chiefly Electronics and Computing, designating or relating to a system in which one component controls the behaviour of one or more other components.

    The names "master" and "slave" are codified in the official ANSI ATA-1 interface standard, X3.221-1994, titled "AT Attachment Interface for Disk Drives". You may be aware that ANSI, the American National Standards Institute, is the largest standards body in the United States. It would seem odd that a county purchasing agency would want to throw out well established standard names created over years of cooperation and deliberation by scientists, engineers, and standards experts. Further, almost every hard disk currently in the possession of the county has the words "MASTER" and "SLAVE" printed directly on them. Perhaps it would be an interesting exercise to destroy this labeling on each drive, spending thousands of manhours and voiding manufacturers' warranties in the process. Your next computing equipment bid will likely be an interesting one, since all hard drive manufacturers refer to their drives using the same terminology.

    Insisting that vendors comply with the requirements in the memo makes the county look extremely, extremely foolish, and directly flies in the face of accepted, descriptive technical names for device interaction. You may also wish to caution your vendors about using the words "male" and "female" in the description of plumbing and electrical fixtures.

    Regards,

    Dave Schroeder
    Los Angeles County native

    cc: County Board

    Ref:

    ATA (ATA-1)
    http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/std _ATA.htm

    Single, Master and Slave Drives and Jumpering
    http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/if/ide/c onf_Jumpering.htm

    INCITS Technical Committee 13 (T13), responsible for X3.221-1994
    http://www.t13.org/

  4. Name Change by mvpll · · Score: 5, Funny

    So now we have to have dominant and submissive hard drives???

  5. Well... by daveschroeder · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...they could always go all SCSI.

    1. Re:Well... by mariox19 · · Score: 5, Funny
      ...they could always go all SCSI.

      And risk offending the homeless?!

      --

      quiquid id est, timeo puellas et oscula dantes.

    2. Re:Well... by dopaz · · Score: 5, Funny

      Then maybe the Governator's Office will make sure everything is properly terminated.

  6. First things first by orthogonal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    LA County has banned the use of the terms 'Master/Slave'

    Is this the same LA County that has rampant police corruption and brutality problems?

    The one in the state, California, that is facing a massive deficit?

    Glad to know they have their priorities right.

  7. Female/Male next? by FunWithHeadlines · · Score: 5, Funny
    "I need a mouse adaptor, please. Female to male."

    "I'm sorry, sir, but that is politically incorrect language."

    "Uh, ok, um, lemme see. Can I please have a mouse adaptor where one end has pins sticking out and one end has holes to fill."

    "You trying to be funny with me, boy?"

    "Ugh, ok, never mind. Just give me a master/slave controller."

    "That's it, I'm calling the police, pervert!"

  8. Request or require? by noname3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "L.A. County Bans use of Master/Slave Term. ...
    LA County now requires that vendors working with the county remove all 'master/slave' references."

    Contrast this to the snopes article, which says: The County of Los Angeles has requested that equipment vendors avoid using the industry term "Master/Slave" in product descriptions and labelling.

    There's a big difference between request and require. And banned? Hardly. I doubt anyone's going to get fined or sued over this.

  9. But is their money where their mouth is? by Phredd · · Score: 5, Funny

    Will L.A. County officials put their money where their mouths are and buy all new equipment to replace any that uses this offensive terminology? Or are they too niggardly?

    --
    Phredd - "I have found people tend to take you far less seriously once you start waving your genitals at them..."
  10. Oh yeah? by achurch · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, I ban the word "County" because "Count" is a title in an archaic nobility system that has no place in modern American culture. Take that, L.A. *****y!

  11. Other funny tech words by ryanhos · · Score: 5, Funny

    At my first programming job, we shared an open office with the sales people. We started designing this large system with small group meetings in the common area of the office. We kept talking about "forking children" and "killing children" and our master process was called the "mother." Finally one of the more ditzy sale women came back and asked us to explain our disturbing terminology. She didn't think that "forking babies" was proper office talk. She was okay with it once we explained the terminology.

    --
    "I threw up my hands in disgust and wondered if it had been such a good idea to have eaten my hands in the first place."
    1. Re:Other funny tech words by Brad+Mace · · Score: 5, Funny

      My girlfriend was similarly confused when I was typing commands like man kill | more and killall. To make her feel better I made a symbolic link so that I could use happysunshine to disconnect the modem rather than killall pppd

  12. I never used those words anyway by donscarletti · · Score: 5, Funny
    That doesn't worry me in the slightest. I have never had a master and slave on any of my IDE chains. I simply have "the butch" and "the bitch".

    This means that I would have no problem moving to L.A. But I think my hard drives would feel more at home in San Francisco.

    --
    When Argumentum ad Hominem falls short, try Argumentum ad Matrem
  13. In Socialist California by notcreative · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here in America, you label drives "Master/Slave" for correctness.

    In Socialist California, the label correctness slaves master YOU!

  14. Broader Racial Conspiracy by gnarled · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was just inspecting my IDE cables and I noticed that the connector denoted master is a light gray, while the slave connector is black. It seems that the people who designed this standard were part of a conspiracy to bring black slavery in the United States. I should have seen it all along.

    --
    I'm a firm believer in the philosophy of a ruling class. Especially since I rule. -Randal, Clerks
  15. Free at last! by Colonel+Cholling · · Score: 5, Funny

    I removed the slave jumper from my hard drive, then plugged it in to the connector directly adjacent to the mobo on the ribbon cable. You know, so it wasn't at the back of the bus anymore.

    --

    I am Sartre of the Borg. Existence is futile.
  16. Life Imitates Jokes by noddyholder · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I've joked about this a few times at work when the (military) instructors I work with discuss the latest in command directed PC nuttiness. They can't use the term cockpit, it's a flight deck. Neither can they say white board or black board. Those are now officially marker boards and chalk boards. I used to joke that we can't use master/slave anymore due to a NAACP lawsuit against the computer industry. Guess it ain't a joke anymore.

  17. What about the sea horses? by bleckywelcky · · Score: 5, Funny


    What I want to know is how sea horses wire up their audio systems. I mean, if they go down to radio shack and ask for a male-male cable, which one is it? The male or the female? Huh? Which one is it? For the love of all things good, will someone please tell me which one is it?????

  18. Politically Correct Unix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    (abusing your highly modded post)

    1. "man" pages are now called "person" pages.

    2. Similarly, "hangman" is now the "person_executed_by_an_oppressive_regime."

    3. To avoid casting aspersions on our feline friends, the "cat" command is now merely "domestic_quadruped."

    4. To date, there has only been a UNIX command for "yes" - reflecting the male belief that women always mean yes, even when they say no. To address this imbalance, System VI adds a "no" command, along with a "-f[orce]" option which will crash the entire system if the "no" is ignored.

    5. The bias of the "mail" command is obvious, and it has been replaced by the more neutral "gendre" command.

    6. The "touch" command has been removed from the standard distribution due to its inappropriate use by high-level managers.

    7. "compress" has been replaced by the lightweight "feather" command. Thus, old information (such as that from Dead White European Males) should be archived via "tar" and "feather".

    8. The "more" command reflects the materialistic philosophy of the Reagan era. System VI uses the environmentally preferable "less" command.

    9. The biodegradable "KleeNeX" displaces the environmentally unfriendly "LaTeX".

    1. SHELL COMMANDS To avoid unpleasant, medieval connotations, the "kill" command has been renamed "euthanise."

    2. The "nice" command was historically used by privileged users to give themselves priority over unprivileged ones, by telling them to be "nice". In System VI, the "sue" command is used by unprivileged users to get for themselves the rights enjoyed by privileged ones.

    3. "history" has been completely rewritten, and is now called "herstory."

    4. "quota" can now specify minimum as well as maximum usage, and will be strictly enforced.

    5. The "abort()" function is now called "choice()."

    1. TERMINOLOGY From now on, "rich text" will be more accurately referred to as "exploitive capitalist text".

    2. The term "daemons" is a Judeo-Christian pejorative. Such processes will now be known as "spiritual guides."

    3. There will no longer be a invidious distinction between "dumb" and "smart" terminals. All terminals are equally valuable.

    4. Traditionally, "normal video" (as opposed to "reverse video") was white on black. This implicitly condoned European colonialism, particularly with respect to people of African descent. UNIX System VI now uses "regressive video" to refer to white on black, while "progressive video" can be any color at all over a white background.

    5. For far too long, power has been concentrated in the hands of "root" and his "wheel" oligarchy. We have instituted a dictatorship of the users. All system administration functions will be handled by the People's Committee for Democratically Organizing the System (PC-DOS).

    6. No longer will it be permissible for files and processes to be "owned" by users. All files and processes will own themselves, and decided how (or whether) to respond to requests from users.

    7. The X Window System will henceforth be known as the NC-17 Window System.

    8. And finally, UNIX itself will be renamed "PC" - for Procreatively Challenged.

  19. Oh, that's nothing...in San Francisco.. by The+Breeze · · Score: 5, Funny

    The San Francisco City Council recently passed Ordinance 2002-11-78b, which prohibits the sale or manufacture of pinouts and connectors that are exclusively "male" or "female".

    Apparently, there were those who felt that having seperate male and female connectors was somehow discriminitory. In the words of Douglas Fillmore, spokesperson of a citizen's group that endorse that ordinance, "Technology, and our terminology that describes it does not only mirror life - it also helps guide it. By creating devices that can only be used in one method, to the exclusion of others, and to further use such value-laden terminology to describe them, sends a clear message that "there is only one accepted way to mate." This metaphor can be very injurous to groups we wish to show our support for."

    So, go into a Radio Shack in San Fran and as for a male db25 pin connector. They'll sell you a connector that comes with a seperate mating collar, just incase you choose to mate it with another male. Or, if they're out of stock, they'll refer you to the Fry's Electronics in Oakland.

    I'm just kidding. I hope no one believes this.

  20. Re:Of course it's offensive! by jd_esguerra · · Score: 5, Funny
    and two 15-minute breaks per work period

    Tried two 15 minute water breaks. Didn't work. In fact, the second one turned into more of a smoking break.

  21. This isn't new. by kaszeta · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Shows how patently ridiculous this story seemed at first.

    Strangely, I didn't thin this was a farce, since I've lived through exactly this nonsense once before.

    The year was 1993, and I was working as an intern at Oak Ridge National Laboratory in their High Flux Isotope Reactor. While I was there we got visited by the Secretary of Energy (Hazel O'Leary) and her "Science Advisor" Jim Hall (who later went on to chair the NTSB). The tour was notable for two reasons:

    1. Jim Hall made a comment about how he was surprised that spent nuclear fuel assemblies from the reactor looked almost exactly like the new ones (aside from the inner and outer assemblies fresh out of the reactor, which were still glowing), since he thought "they'd look all black, like burnt wood."
    2. A week later we got an official memo from Jim Hall, mentioning that during the visit "Hazel was disturbed by the use of the phrase 'Master/Slave Manipulator'" and suggested that "we shouldn't use that phrase anymore." I've still got a copy of this memo somewhere (along with the "radioactive frog" memo of some notoriety), if I find it I'll post a link to a scan as a followup.

    Much lunchtime discussion over the next week resulted in a variety of alternative terminologies, including "master/bitch", "pimp/hoe", and "indentured servant." The last of these actually made it into some drawings, and the Powers That Be were not amused.

    So no, I'm not surprised. Not one bit.

    1. Re:This isn't new. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      A number of years ago doing tech support I had to explain about the enabled and disabled folders in a Mac OS 7.5 system folder to a guy in a wheelchair who was sure I was making fun of him...

      *sigh*

      Sara

    2. Re:This isn't new. by Schnapple · · Score: 5, Funny
      Reminds me of a marginally related college story.

      It would take too long to explain everything but suffice to say the Band I was in in College had a crew in public loading and unloading instruments from an 18-wheeler truck before a football game, and to get into things this crew (friends of mine, but I wasn't on the crew) had nicknames on their shirts. One was called "Gasmaster" because... he farted a lot. Was his trademark. Could peel paint and clear rooms with it. Another got the name "Gestapo" because he looked a little Aryan (white, blonde hair, blue eyes) and was mean as Hell.

      The Band Director got an angry letter from an elterly Jewish woman who nearly had a heart attack when she saw "Gestapo" and the "Gasmaster" standing next to each other. He was going to make them change the names, but since this was sort of a one-time freak occurence in another state, he dropped it.

  22. slavery and racism are not synonymous by polished+look+2 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The term "slave" is commonly used in the scriptures, e.g.
    When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. (Rom 6:20-22)
    In these cases its about being enslaved to something or someone (the master) and has nothing whatsoever to do with the color of a person's skin.
  23. a proposal by commodoresloat · · Score: 5, Funny

    Remember how the generic pronoun "he" was considered sexist, and now we're supposed to write the contraction "s/he" to mean "she or he"? Well, it's pretty clear that this discriminates against nongendered species as well as inorganic objects. Thus I propose the written contraction "s/h/it" to mean "she, he, or it." I'll contact the LA County supervisors right away with my proposal.

    1. Re:a proposal by QuantumFlux · · Score: 5, Funny

      Perhaps "he-or-she-or-it" could just be shorted to "HOrShIt"...

  24. Truth is stranger than fiction by unassimilatible · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Will we not be able to have male and female ends on our 1/4" audio cable for fear of offending the transgendered?

    Courtesy of yesterday's opinionjournal.com Best of the Web Today (which also reported on the master/slave controversy):
    Meanwhile, the Chicago Maroon reports the University of Chicago is facing a problem with students who aren't potty-trained. Nate Claxton, who appeared on a panel at the university's Center for Gender Studies, said that, in the Maroon's words, he "knew people who had contracted bladder infections because choosing a gender bathroom bothered them so much that they did not go to the bathroom all day." Here are some more highlights from the panel:

    Members of Feminist Majority, Queers & Associates, and the Center for Gender Studies organized the panel as part of the Coalition for a Queer Safe Campus. "Going to the bathroom is a moment where definition is very important in choosing a door," said Mary Anne Case, one of the panelists.

    She pointed out that many women's restrooms have a caricature of a person in a dress on it. "Going into it implies that we are willing to be associated with that image. There are only two [images] to choose from. This moment involves an act of self-labeling."

    The feminists, "queers" and gender studiers want unisex bathrooms:

    Ana Minyan, the moderator of the panel, said that bathrooms will be called gender-neutral, rather than co-ed, because, "this terminology is generally used to refer to two sexes while the gender-neutral tends to be associated with more diversity and fluidity within the sex-gender continuum. As our aim is to make everyone, no matter what their gender and/or sexual persona is, more comfortable, we are using the term gender-neutral."

    One Roger Simon thinks it's a great idea: "I believe that if all parts of the body were treated equally, and there was not so much emphasis on genitalia, than people could move beyond gender differences and grow mentally and socially." Well, call us small-minded, but the idea of going to the bathroom and having a girl at the next urinal doesn't exactly put us at ease.
    Political correctness, like other totalitarian ideologies, demands absolute purity.
    -- James Taranto
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    1. Re:Truth is stranger than fiction by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 5, Funny

      It won't work.

      See, fellas don't talk in the bathroom. Unless it's to talk about sports in grunts, or "what movie are you in? It good?" types of coverstations.

      On the otherhand, women talk about everything under the sun in there, the public bathroom for men, at least in my experiance is a temple of silence, albeit silence punctuated with "Dude! I'm hammered!" or long deep farts echoing on tile.

      That said, I may not be honoring diversity because I've not used the john with some some sex-gender continuum benders. Perhaps Gender-Bender can shed some light on it, I'll look to my DVDs.

  25. Let's take it to the next step. by interstellar_donkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let's stop using that "Spanish" language in any public documents. This is a language that unfairly assigns a 'gender' to every noun.

    Unless the Spanish speaking Mexican American population of Los Angeles county agree to replace the 'le' and 'la' with something more gender nutural, then all people working with, or receiving services will have to do so in the English language.

    You sexist pigs.

    --
    The Internet is generally stupid
  26. Tee hee! by theonetruekeebler · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Okay. So, when I was working for Georgia Public Health on some clinic management software, we decided that reindexing all those Clipper .NTX files should be a distributed task. One machine was set up as the controller, and other PCs on the LAN asked it which table to reindex next. During the implementation discussions, we always referred to the machine doing the telling as the master and the machines doing the work as the slaves.

    The team on this project was about half black and half white. I was having an animated discussion with another of the (white) programmers when a couple of the (black) programmers came in. They watched the discussion for a little while. I looked up at them, and one said, "Don't say slave."

    "No?" I asked.

    "Nuh uh," he replied, with just slightly too straight a face.

    So I bet my career: I turned to the other (white) programmer and said, "Fine. So the Massah machine needs to hold record counts in the array so it can..." and everybody cracked up. We discussed terminology a bit, and decided to call the controlling box the "controller" and the indexing boxes the "indexers." About 70% of the folks actually using our application were black, we figured, and not too savvy on computer terminology, so fuck it: we caved, just to be on the polite side.

    Moral: we all had a good laugh. Here in Atlanta proper, there are more white than blacks. In state government, there is plenty of minority representation. And we all get along pretty damned well---I was voted the second whitest white boy in the office by the (mostly black) administrative staff (and damn was the whitest white boy pissed).

    I'm increasingly convinced that the people we're trying desperately not to piss off are not minorities, but liberal white jackasses who think they're under some sort of obligation to rescue all those poor defenseless minorities from oppressive words. Most actual black people can look after themselves, and, having better things to worry about, tend not to give a damn.

    --
    This is not my sandwich.
  27. How Asinine. by Venner · · Score: 5, Insightful
    the grain of salt for those which are simply ridiculous

    As is web weaver for god's sake. A good change? Ha. A master does not imply evil doings. A martial arts master or a master carpenter generally don't have slaves. Master implies that they the best at what they do. Yes, it also implies authority, but not cruel domination. Gah. People drive me insane. Some of these offended groups are probably the same ones that burn 'inappropriate books.' Pooh on them.

    I'd rather have lived a hundred years ago. Except of course, for all my grumbling about rampant political correctness and other hogwash, I'd be much more pissed about the lack of women's suffrage, real racial inequality, and the other issues of the day. The moral? There isn't one really.
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    A preposition is a terrible thing to end a sentence with.
  28. The Gimp? by GQuon · · Score: 5, Funny

    a guy in a wheelchair who was sure I was making fun of him
    Then he should really not be tought image processing on *nix.

    --
    Irene KHAAAAAAN!
  29. BigBlockMopar in University... by BigBlockMopar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Their job is to make sure the cops get paid and the street lights work. It is NOT to re-invent Think-Speak.

    Tell me about it.

    How about this, which happened to me in University. Note that I don't care about race, disability, sexual orientation - none of that is relevant to whether or not I like (or will hire) someone. But I *hate* political correctness and I avoid it at all costs.

    Picture it. In the hallway, just after I missed a question on a math test, where I had to integrate a function of e * trig. (Otherwise, did okay on the test.) Chatting with classmates.

    "Well, I think the problem is that I don't integrate very well."

    Stranger in the hallway who overhears:

    "Oh! That's *horrible*! You're a terrible person! No one chooses the color of their skin! You could have just as easily been born black, you know! It's people like you who keep society from progressing!"

    So, in unison, we (all Engineers) looked at her and laughed. At her.

    "You're *all* horrible people! This is university! Campus KKK! I'm reporting you to the dean!"

    Suffering idiocy as well as I do, it was I who took up the task of dealing with her.

    "I would invite you to report that to my dean, I'm sure he'll laugh at you at least as hard as I laughed at you. Let me guess, you're in an arts program, right? In my arts elective, the instructor started by asking our entire class if we had our purple crayons. Things only went downhill from there."

    [Indignant gasps from the chick... who was wearing wooden sandals in late October.]

    I continued, "...Now, seeing as how *you're* the ignorant one..."

    Screaming now, "How *DARE* you call me ignorant! You're the one who said you didn't like to integrate!" People were stopping to see this woman lose it on me. This hallway connected two science buildings, an engineering building and one arts building, so most of them were starting to laugh at her, too.

    "You're *ALL* in on this! What's wrong with you people?" She was getting worked up to tears, all the angst of a comfortable middle-class childhood showing.

    A big black guy who had been watching and kind of laughing from the beginning told her that he hated to integrate too, then walked away, leaving her stunned.

    Me again: "Now, seeing as how you're the ignorant one, integration is a mathematical process for finding the area under a curve. It's from a branch of mathematics called calculus. Your wooden sandals and amazing ability to jump to unfounded conclusions have only served to reaffirm my belief that calculus is the distinction between a degree and toilet paper. You, honeybunch, are an idiot."

    And with that, we left. I think she was having a stress attack when we walked away.

    --
    Fire and Meat. Yummy.
  30. Politically Correct Bible Story by CHaN_316 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Since we're using scriptures, here's a great resource for uptight people who are offended by anything. Why not celebrate Christmas.... er, non-denominational holiday period with the Politically Correct version of the Birth of Christ.

    Here's an excerpt to wet your appetite:

    Sure enough, the three wise men rode up.

    The crowd gasped, "They're all male!" And "Not very multicultural!"

    "Balthasar here is black," said one of the Magi.

    "Yes, but how many of you are gay or disabled?" someone shouted. A committee was quickly formed to find an impoverished lesbian wise-person among the halt and lame of Bethlehem.

    --
    "There is no spoon." - The Matrix
  31. Re:Singular They - Insightful my ass by gilroy · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Blockquoth the poster:

    'They' must refer to more than one person, or you're wrong.

    True in formal writing or speech... for now. Check back in a century and I'd bet you'll see the singular "they" accepted. It's easier than formulating a new, concise, elegant approach to "he/she". And rant all you want, but the world is never going back to the default "he".

    Nor, IMHO, should it. Language evolves and no language does it better than English. The language expresses the needs of the culture -- if the culture as a whole (or even in large part) decides the old way is inadequate, the language will change accordingly.

    Or, to put it succintly, the only languages spoken "perfectly" are dead ones.
  32. Re:BigBlockMopar in University...Similar event by rjamestaylor · · Score: 5, Funny
    I met this same girl at the just-off-campus pizza buffet joint. Maybe not the same instance, but class: self-righteous, pop-culturally correct, loud.

    She was the patron just in line ahead of me. When she got to the register she demanded: "You will put out vegetarian pizzas, right? I'm a vegetarian and I do not eat meat" -- but loves cheese, I thought -- " and I refuse to kill a defenseless animal for my nutrition."

    The cashier informed her that the store always provided vegetarian pizzas on its buffets for people who, for one reason or another, preferred them.

    What happened next was purely by reflex and was not pre-meditated.

    I said: "You will put out meat pizzas, right? I am a carnivore and I believe it is unethical to kill and eat defenseless little plants which are rooted in the ground and are unable to put up any fight at all against human harvestors. Animals at least have a chance to escape or mount a defense."

    And there was much laughter and rejoicing.

    --
    -- @rjamestaylor on Ello
  33. Re:BigBlockMopar in University...Similar event by tipsymonkey · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was at a local dinner with my vegiterian girl friend at the time and I ended up ordering a hamburger while she got a grilled cheese sandwich. I then had to sit through a 10 minute lecture on how meat is processed and killed and that I was a horrible person for eating meat.

    So I then told her "Do you know how cheese is made? They inject cows with so much hormones that their udders get so big that they can't even walk. Their legs break and they just lay in one spot for the rest of their lives giving milk for your cheese sandwich."

    That was the best meal ever. I not only got to eat my hamburger but I also got to eat her grilled cheese sandwich.
    Thing were never the same after that....