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Finding the Perfect Family Game

kowalski1971 writes "Some poor soul with far too much time on his hands has decided - in an attempt to increase sales at his toyshop - to calculate the formula for the perfect family game. Apparently it is, 0.22a + 0.17f + 0.153n + (0.12c - 0.1g) + 0.1s + 0.09e + 0.06d + 0.054l + 0.05m + 0.011c = pfg ...and which game came out top? Cards. So much for the increased sales then."

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  1. Re:Aces! by chimpo13 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm pretty sure it's Vice City and Carmegeddon. It's nice watching my 5 year old kill cops with his grandfather.

  2. Simpler formula by C17GMaster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I notice that most of those factors are vaguely defined at best... "Fun factor?" Get real! As long as we're pulling qualitative numbers out of the air, why not design a simpler system? Perfect Family Game = 1.0g, where "g" is the "goodness level." Practical, huh?

  3. cards by gotem · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Cards" is not a game
    a game is poker, bridge, blackjack etc.
    which card game are they talking about?

  4. BCS by JeffSh · · Score: 5, Funny

    Thankfully, his calculations are much LESS complicated than the formulae used to compute the bowl championship series rankings.

    Oddly enough, they are also more accurate, and I would be willing to bet that his formula could easily be converted over verbatim, applied to college football, and STILL come out with a better ranking system for college teams than the BCS.

  5. Cards? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Given that his factors include:

    N = number of people
    S = stimulation
    E = engagement
    D = duration
    L = longevity

    I think we may at last have found the source of all those dastardly penis enlargement spams and viagra...

  6. Best selling by Tet · · Score: 4, Insightful
    So much for the increased sales then

    Best selling game != best game. Admittedly, the point of this exercise was probably to increase sales, so on that front, it's failed... Also note that his formula reuses symbols ("C" is both competitive factor, and complexity), and he parenthesizes items for no apparently good reason when the operators are commutative. Is he just trying to come up with an impressive looking formula to get a newsworthy story and bring his store some publicity? On that front, he's succeeded...

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  7. Re:Aces! by SkArcher · · Score: 5, Interesting
    If you want a game where the variations are endless, try Nomic, where the aim of the game is to alter the rules. From one of the FAQ's:
    Nomic is a game in which changing the rules is a move. In that respect it differs from almost every other game. The primary activity of Nomic is proposing changes in the rules, debating the wisdom of changing them in that way, voting on the changes, deciding what can and cannot be done afterwards, and doing it. Even this core of the game, of course, can be changed. (Peter Suber, The Paradox of Self-Amendment, Appendix 3, p. 362)
    The game was developed from political science theory as an example - but it turned out to be a lot of fun!
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    An infinite number of monkeys will eventually come up with the complete works of /.
  8. Which game? by bersl2 · · Score: 4, Funny

    which card game are they talking about?

    Clearly, strip poker.

    1. Re:Which game? by Senjutsu · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, the formula for Strip Poker is 0.50T, 0.50A.

  9. Since 2 Simpsons games were mentioned... by da3dAlus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Marge: Why don't you kids play one of your old board games? When was the last time you played "Citizenship"?
    Bart: [looking through games] "Energy Shortage"?
    Lisa: "Hippo in the House"?
    Marge: Ooh, "The Game of Lent"!
    Bart: Ohh, can't we just go to bed?
    Marge: It's only five-thirty.
    Lisa: Fine, we'll play "Hippo in the House".
    Marge: Oh, the hippo's missing.

    Ep: Wild Barts Can't Be Broken

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  10. An old truth by gxv · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Good for everybody and therefore probably good for nobody. And if anybody hopes complicated equations will help him pick the best Christmas gift for his nephew he's mistaken. It will be easier to ask.

  11. Cards? Not at my house!! by tloh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While I was growing up, my parents thought playing cards were poisonous. We were forbidden to play (or even learn) any card games because they thought it was the first step towards becoming a gambling addict. This was extremely embarassing for me later on in school because in math class, concepts in probability and combinatorics were very often taught using ordinary playing cards. Of course, I had no idea what was going on at first, which bewildered my classmates who had gotten the idea that I was pretty sharp in math. Not a big deal, but it is a minor iritation I hold my parents responsible for.

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  12. Sigh. When will we learn? by JonKatzIsAnIdiot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Human factors cannot be reduced to mathematical equations.

    (Sit down Hari Seldon)

    Attempting to do so only results in making you look stupid (like this guy)

    1. Re: Sigh. When will we learn? by Black+Parrot · · Score: 4, Funny


      > Heh. I tried to read the Foundation series, but unfortunately I'd already read enough about Lorenz and Mandelbrot to know that little errors don't just go away if you pick a bigger sample, and subsequently couldn't ignore the major flaw that is "psychohistory" and enjoy the books*.

      Heh, my calculations showed you were going to post that.

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  13. If you do it just right... by inode_buddha · · Score: 5, Funny

    a good game of "Twister" will enable you to start your *own* family!

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  14. The only reason "Cards" won... by Rune+Berge · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... is because they forgot the ever popular "Cardboard and plastic pieces" game.

  15. Toy stores do not sell "games" by tepples · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Cards" is not a game

    But it is game equipment. Toy stores do not deal in "games" as such but rather game equipment. A pair of decks of 52 cards can be used for 100 plus well-known games, which may figure into the decision that cards are nearly optimal game equipment.

  16. Simpler formula by Pedrito · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually, the correct formula for the perfect game is:

    1 Swedish Bikini Team, sans bikinis + Me = The Perfect Game.

  17. mathematicians! Bah! by fermion · · Score: 5, Funny
    Math is wonderful. You can basically create formulas that may or may not have any basis in reality. This is why in addition to mathematician we have experimental physicists who whack the mathematician on the snout, take their formulations, and subject the equations to a rigorous dose of reality. Clearly someone needs to whack this guy on the snout.

    Cards and monopoly are great. The have no noise making annoyances, involve lots of manipulative that occupy the child, and rounds proceed quickly while occupying all players attention. More importantly, these games do minimum damage when the playing pieces enter the inevitable tantrum driven projectile phase.

    But Bop It? It is noisy, and hurts like hell when used as a club. Jenga? The point is to frustrate your opponents. This game is great at developing necessary skills, but when the pieces fall, the loser has a great desire to test the aerodynamics of the blocks.

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    1. Re:mathematicians! Bah! by schon · · Score: 4, Funny

      Math is wonderful. You can basically create formulas that may or may not have any basis in reality. This is why in addition to in addition to mathematician we have experimental physicists who whack the mathematician on the snout

      Reminds me...

      A mathematician, a physicist, and an engineer were all taken to a farm and asked to build the best fence - the fence had to encompass the largest amount of area, with the smallest perimeter.

      The engineer said - "That's easy - you make a circle!"

      The physicist said - "No, you have the fence section encompass the diameter of the earth, that way you get more area because of the third dimension."

      The mathematician ran over to a pile of fence sections, picked up three small ones and arranged them around himself to create a tiny enclosure - then said "I am on the outside!"

  18. Clue by nizo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Clue has to be the best game, since it teaches you the best household objects you can use to kill people, as well as helping young children to realize that you should never ask the police for help when solving a murder.

  19. Precautionary note on side of box says... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "For best results, do not begin game with original family"

    **Posted as AC to cleanse myself of that 'icky' feeling**

  20. Cards are great! by crazyhorse44 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sure beats the old-time family classic... "come sit on grandpa's lap"!

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  21. Re:2 Cs by hurtstotouchfire · · Score: 4, Insightful
    You are correct. He also doesn't seem to have provided any kind of list as to how many different games they tested. Is the the top ten or did they test ten?

    Also, this formula should really include variables for different people. I know monopoly with my grandfather is a blast, because he's old and cheap and sits on all his money and kicks butt at the end, but monopoly with my youngest cousins can be hellish, because they cry when anyone plays rough.

    This should really be more of a function, where you supply 5 or 10 bits of information, and the top 10 list is customized to you.

  22. Re:Cards? Not at my house!! by Otter · · Score: 4, Interesting

    FWIW, my wife teaches college math and uses playing card explanations for a number of concepts. I was surprised and she was astonished (her family is obsessed with games) at how many students were unfamiliar with playing cards. It's a heavily international group of students, but still...