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Phoenix Sounds Death Knell for BIOS

Posted by michael on from the pay-attention dept.

Anonymous Coward writes "The sky will fall next.... Betanews is carrying a story about Phoenix ditching the trusty old BIOS and moving to 'Trusted Computing'... ya right... Time to stock up on those old motherboards boys!" A follow-up/analysis on this story.

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  1. Trust Me. by dolo666 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Bios changes to "trustworthy computing" make me just as scared as when my wife and I went car shopping at Gan Chev Olds and they said "Trust Me. This is a great deal!". Boy did I ever get screwed on that "deal". *sigh*

    Since when does it make sense to switch the onus for security to hardware?

    Oh I knew it was time to buy a Mac! With Doom 3 being fully supported on Mac on launch, it's going to be hard for people to criticize Mac for a lack of games. As soon as Uncle Sam rubs his greedy hands together, to try and get all our secrets, it's time for a switch, IMHO. I'm developing my open source Doom 3 project on a Mac, so I'll be playing on one too. Maybe once Doom 3 is on Mac, the next generation of Id-engine-spinoffs will make for a slaughterhouse of new games for Mac, too!

    1. Re:Trust Me. by Mod+Me+God · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why not run a PC without a BIOS.... it is little needed these days... Any why not email M$ your own devised EULA for them to run Windows (TM(R)(C)etc) on your hardware????

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    2. Re:Trust Me. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      a remote-controlled slave terminal...

      You don't live in CA? That kind of terminology will soon be illegal there.

    3. Re:Trust Me. by myov · · Score: 2, Funny

      Consumers tend to use pc's, content creators tend to use macs. I doubt that the creators want to go through DRM to do their work.

      The last time Apple implimented DRM it was 3 words printed on the back of an iPod: don't steal music.

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    4. Re:Trust Me. by Geek+of+Tech · · Score: 3, Funny
      Yeah.... kinda like the Xbox.... heaven knows no one will ever see Linux on that.... oh wait....

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    5. Re:Trust Me. by BlameFate · · Score: 2, Funny

      Now there's an idea! Jive up computing, change the terminology to "Pimp" and "Bitch".

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    6. Re:Trust Me. by Wandering+Idiot · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, and then we can change the settings on IDE drives to "whitey" and "old-skool oppressed brutha".

      Oh, and Cap Sucka's, I guess.

  2. Confusing? by shirai · · Score: 4, Funny

    Does Phoenix ABSOLUTELY have to use acronyms that already stand for something? I mean: CSS and d-NA? I know we are running out of acronyms but there should still be a few million letter combinations left.

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    1. Re:Confusing? by shaitand · · Score: 4, Funny

      dunno I guess zzx8btrq wasn't on the top of their list of choices ;)

    2. Re:Confusing? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Funny

      I know we are running out of acronyms but there should still be a few million letter combinations left.

      Such as SuX, POS or FUBAR ?
      No, to describe that new bios, they were all taken ...

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    3. Re:Confusing? by Surak_Prime · · Score: 3, Funny

      I've grown convinced that the MPAA/RIAA/Software Companies/etc. (copyright holders, in other words) have begun doing this to foil search engines for downloading or circumventing their stuff.

      Look at a list of the hit movies for the last couple of years, if you don't believe me... what are you going to get searching for downloads of 'xXx' ?

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    4. Re:Confusing? by GussT · · Score: 2, Funny

      It sounds like it's time for a cease and deCSS order to be put in place.

  3. If they hadn't invented that, someone else would by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Funny

    If all goes according to plan, a new product the company dubs Core System Software (CSS) will serve as the foundation of PC architecture.

    DeCSS anyone?

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  4. Tinfoil hat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Time to put on our trusty tin foil hats on our motherboards... wait...

  5. Phoenix is burning by mikeophile · · Score: 4, Funny

    And I don't think they'll be rising again after this shark-jumping stunt.

  6. brockman by TedCheshireAcad · · Score: 5, Funny

    I for one welcome our new trusted computing BIOS overlords...

  7. Re:Or, buy a Mac... by ultranova · · Score: 5, Funny

    Assuming that it will continue be legal to make motherboards without DRM. After all, only a music-sharing communist hippie open-source fundamentalist copyright-infringing file-sharer would want them.

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  8. Best quote by Kenrod · · Score: 4, Funny

    "One of the great computing challenges of this decade is to bring all network-connected devices to common management standards and interfaces," said Martin Reynolds, vice president at Gartner. "Without such technology, device and network management becomes impossible."

    People PAY Gartner for conclusions like that?

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  9. Re:Sorry, but... by Luigi30 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Uh... I thought Phoenix was Phoenix and Award was Award. Well SHIIIIIIT...

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  10. CSS? by jimmer63 · · Score: 5, Funny

    If all goes according to plan, a new product the company dubs Core System Software (CSS) will serve as the foundation of PC architecture.

    When will we have DeCSS?

  11. Bill Gates responds.. by adeyadey · · Score: 2, Funny

    How are you Gentlemen!
    All your Motherboard are belong to us!
    You are on the way to destruction.
    You have no chance to survive make your time.
    HA HA HA HA ....

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  12. Nothing to worry about by scifience · · Score: 4, Funny
    This is nothing to worry about. If we think logically, we will see that:

    (1) Microsoft makes Trusted Computing stuff.
    (2) Nothing Microsoft makes is secure.
    therefore
    (3) Trusted Computing will be easily hackable so that it can be replaced with another BIOS.

    Now, Microsoft will probably and try to make this illegal, just like they have tried to make mod chips illegal. Last time I checked, though, it was perfectly legal to hack your own PC or other hardware.

  13. Walter says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    shut the fuck up Donny

  14. Re:LinuxBIOS by Dasaan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Heh let's see if we can get DMCA'd for using a soldering iron...

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  15. Re:Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Notice how the US Government has no control over this guy? Can you guess why?

    Thats right, it's because of the amazing "Aluminum Foil Deflector Beanie" (AFBD)! We have plenty in stock too! Get yours today!

  16. laaaaaaame... by Theranthrope · · Score: 2, Funny

    I would much prefer the pimp/ho or pimp/bitch drive nomenclature standard over the primary/secondary lamenclature.

  17. Re:Hmmm by lysium · · Score: 2, Funny
    Then where the hell did the millions of non-conformists come from in the 60s for example? Surely those rebellious kids got their edumacation during the highly conformist late 40s and early 50s right?

    Didn't you know? Lysergic Acid (LSD) is a highly effective deprogramming tool. The youthful experimenting of the sixties cleared all that conformist shit right out of their heads....

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  18. Re:I'll sue if that happens by DickBreath · · Score: 3, Funny

    You will just shut up, swallow it just like you swallowed WPA and will say that "you will sue" when (not if) they will do the next step.

    You will take it the way Microsoft gives it to you, whether this means bend over, or whether it means the swallowing part.

    There is a reason that it is called longhorn. Because you're going to really get screwed this time.

    Any questions?

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