Possibly. My point wasn't that it would be a *decisive* factor to consider, only that is IS a factor to consider, and that's why it isn't "meaningless" as was asserted. And there may be other mission profiles aside from colonization where it *would* be decisive.
As an aside, personally, I'd prefer to see us colonize a station or stations at Lagrange points, and then the Asteroid Belt, if at all possible - why put yourself back into another gravity well when you've already paid the heavy (literally) cost to get your people and your resources out of one? At least to begin with...
It's not meaningless. Look, in absolute terms, yes, Venus gets closest to us. But, if you're planning a permanent settlement that is going to need to be resupplied several times a year, it might be more useful to put that settlement someplace that gets close *several times a year*, even if that isn't as close as Venus gets once in a while.
I really need an explanation for how they justify saying they've made revisions while keeping it as Version 1809. That isn't how it works. That isn't how any of this works.
That isn't really a partisan statement. (Whether it was *intended* to be or not is a different discussion.) It's been quite a while since we've had an administration, from either party, that has shown serious interest in goals that extend beyond what can advantage them personally within their own term(s). And that's at least doubly true for space exploration goals. They will pander a lot about supposed grand visions, but the money never goes where their mouths are.
So they've finally started giving the same advice I started giving my clients over a month ago. Boy, these guys are just Johnny-on-the-spot, aren't they?
I've always thought that the reason the 2600 port of the game was so crappy (as well as the one for Ms. Pac-Man) was to keep them from killing kids' desire to still put quarters in the arcade machines.
And there is nothing in that demo or what I'm reading as the ingenuine-ness of the original programmer, there, that makes me think otherwise, now, frankly.
I've been around billiards and played billiards all my life. I love it. And I would not consider it a sport. It is a game. Games can require a measure of physical skill and still be games.
Here's as close as I can come to proof: take money out, and leagues, and "pro" anything out. Did it ever occur to you while playing Pac-Man that it was a SPORT? Are you going to a billiards match, or are you going to shoot a GAME of pool? Give me a break.
Hey, I use FLAC in environments where I think lossless is worthwhile - but a good 320kbps MP3 is still just fine for the car, where there's going to be engine and road noise, anyway.:)
Why? *Someone* is going to get that contract if there's a bid request, so it may as well be the company that will do what we would regard as the most good with the profits from the sale.
Just curious: When we have these question/answer paired stories on Slashdot, does anyone at Slashdot ever bother to *warn* the respondent that Slashdotters are going to eviscerate their responses if they come across as a corporate shill and fail to seem like a regular, conversational human being?
It seems like something like this needs to be added at the top of the questions they receive: "Be real, if there's something you can't answer at least try to be funny or sarcastic, and don't seem like a marketing drone."
I was 4, born in '75. My dad was a nuclear reactor operator at H.B. Robinson, and I *definitely* remember Three Mile Island because of the uproar it caused with him and his friends / coworkers. I'd allow I'd have remembered if I had been 3, so I believe the above poster. So tthhhhpppptttt.
Of course, since this IS actually the best thing the autopilot can do for its own survival and the survival of others of its own kind - since any failure that can actually be blamed directly on it might result in the humans deciding to build different autopiloting devices or just do away with them altogether - then this could be taken as a sign that the AI works really, really well.;)
You're half right. The other half being to prove you have the self-discipline to do WORK even when it isn't enjoyable. My experience with school was similar to Lumpy's, except that teachers let me float because they knew I knew the material even if I wasn't doing the work. (Mainly from the fact that I was tutoring the other students.) Looking back, the teacher I have the most respect for is the one who tried to teach me the lesson I needed most - by refusing to play along and failing my sorry ass. Work matters at least as much as your knowledge.
The scariest part of this to me is that Lumpy has a lower UID than my 39 year old self, which probably means he is older - and still hasn't learned that lesson, however smart he is.
NOT new. We've had Postus, the frog headed god of messengers and package deliverers, as a deity in one of our homebrew D&D campaigns for about 25 years now.
Maybe travel at the speeds necessary to reach other star systems is impossible, and there ARE a TON of civilizations out there. But, they're all talking on some type of communication form - like Quantum CB or something - that we haven't discovered quite yet.
One day we will, and we won't make first contact with ONE species that day. We'll meet millions.
I keep seeing people saying that it is cheaper and safer to send automated missions and that they can do everything a human can do and more in the way of research - that a human would add nothing to knowledge that can't be gathered by machine.
This isn't true. An automaton cannot tell us what it is like to be a human on Mars. Admittedly, some might find that insufficient - but I do not.
(Also, the science and technology we will develop HERE to make a human *able* to stand THERE and tell us that is nothing to sneeze at, either.)
I don't despise a salesperson for doing their job. Their motive is clear - to make a sale and profit - and based on that motive, "buyer beware" seems fairly obvious. Organized religions pretends they *aren't* trying to SELL something when most of them certainly are, and that makes them worse than Whole Foods and most used car salespeople, too.
I understand why this is modded Funny, but also, isn't this (combined with a lack of belief in contraception) kind of a true picture of part of the problem in the starving African nations?
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Possibly. My point wasn't that it would be a *decisive* factor to consider, only that is IS a factor to consider, and that's why it isn't "meaningless" as was asserted. And there may be other mission profiles aside from colonization where it *would* be decisive.
As an aside, personally, I'd prefer to see us colonize a station or stations at Lagrange points, and then the Asteroid Belt, if at all possible - why put yourself back into another gravity well when you've already paid the heavy (literally) cost to get your people and your resources out of one? At least to begin with...
It's not meaningless. Look, in absolute terms, yes, Venus gets closest to us. But, if you're planning a permanent settlement that is going to need to be resupplied several times a year, it might be more useful to put that settlement someplace that gets close *several times a year*, even if that isn't as close as Venus gets once in a while.
I really need an explanation for how they justify saying they've made revisions while keeping it as Version 1809. That isn't how it works. That isn't how any of this works.
That isn't really a partisan statement. (Whether it was *intended* to be or not is a different discussion.) It's been quite a while since we've had an administration, from either party, that has shown serious interest in goals that extend beyond what can advantage them personally within their own term(s). And that's at least doubly true for space exploration goals. They will pander a lot about supposed grand visions, but the money never goes where their mouths are.
So they've finally started giving the same advice I started giving my clients over a month ago. Boy, these guys are just Johnny-on-the-spot, aren't they?
For Musk, this isn't just a *theory*: it's fairly obvious he's using the cheat system. ;)
I've always thought that the reason the 2600 port of the game was so crappy (as well as the one for Ms. Pac-Man) was to keep them from killing kids' desire to still put quarters in the arcade machines.
And there is nothing in that demo or what I'm reading as the ingenuine-ness of the original programmer, there, that makes me think otherwise, now, frankly.
...has a bad motivator. Better go with an R2. ;)
I've been around billiards and played billiards all my life. I love it. And I would not consider it a sport. It is a game. Games can require a measure of physical skill and still be games.
Here's as close as I can come to proof: take money out, and leagues, and "pro" anything out. Did it ever occur to you while playing Pac-Man that it was a SPORT? Are you going to a billiards match, or are you going to shoot a GAME of pool? Give me a break.
Hey, I use FLAC in environments where I think lossless is worthwhile - but a good 320kbps MP3 is still just fine for the car, where there's going to be engine and road noise, anyway. :)
I assume you mean the part where they think any of us listen to MP3s of music at such a shitty bitrate? ;)
He's not your guy, pal.
Why? *Someone* is going to get that contract if there's a bid request, so it may as well be the company that will do what we would regard as the most good with the profits from the sale.
Just curious: When we have these question/answer paired stories on Slashdot, does anyone at Slashdot ever bother to *warn* the respondent that Slashdotters are going to eviscerate their responses if they come across as a corporate shill and fail to seem like a regular, conversational human being?
It seems like something like this needs to be added at the top of the questions they receive: "Be real, if there's something you can't answer at least try to be funny or sarcastic, and don't seem like a marketing drone."
...don't hear about this. They will immediately connect it to this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...
I was 4, born in '75. My dad was a nuclear reactor operator at H.B. Robinson, and I *definitely* remember Three Mile Island because of the uproar it caused with him and his friends / coworkers. I'd allow I'd have remembered if I had been 3, so I believe the above poster. So tthhhhpppptttt.
Believe it or not, they make spoons that you ARE supposed to microwave for ice cream:
http://www.ideastage.com/Food-...
Of course, since this IS actually the best thing the autopilot can do for its own survival and the survival of others of its own kind - since any failure that can actually be blamed directly on it might result in the humans deciding to build different autopiloting devices or just do away with them altogether - then this could be taken as a sign that the AI works really, really well. ;)
You're half right. The other half being to prove you have the self-discipline to do WORK even when it isn't enjoyable. My experience with school was similar to Lumpy's, except that teachers let me float because they knew I knew the material even if I wasn't doing the work. (Mainly from the fact that I was tutoring the other students.) Looking back, the teacher I have the most respect for is the one who tried to teach me the lesson I needed most - by refusing to play along and failing my sorry ass. Work matters at least as much as your knowledge.
The scariest part of this to me is that Lumpy has a lower UID than my 39 year old self, which probably means he is older - and still hasn't learned that lesson, however smart he is.
NOT new. We've had Postus, the frog headed god of messengers and package deliverers, as a deity in one of our homebrew D&D campaigns for about 25 years now.
Maybe travel at the speeds necessary to reach other star systems is impossible, and there ARE a TON of civilizations out there. But, they're all talking on some type of communication form - like Quantum CB or something - that we haven't discovered quite yet.
One day we will, and we won't make first contact with ONE species that day. We'll meet millions.
I keep seeing people saying that it is cheaper and safer to send automated missions and that they can do everything a human can do and more in the way of research - that a human would add nothing to knowledge that can't be gathered by machine.
This isn't true. An automaton cannot tell us what it is like to be a human on Mars. Admittedly, some might find that insufficient - but I do not.
(Also, the science and technology we will develop HERE to make a human *able* to stand THERE and tell us that is nothing to sneeze at, either.)
I don't despise a salesperson for doing their job. Their motive is clear - to make a sale and profit - and based on that motive, "buyer beware" seems fairly obvious. Organized religions pretends they *aren't* trying to SELL something when most of them certainly are, and that makes them worse than Whole Foods and most used car salespeople, too.
Ham... pig....
We see what you did there. :-D
I understand why this is modded Funny, but also, isn't this (combined with a lack of belief in contraception) kind of a true picture of part of the problem in the starving African nations?