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MandrakeMove Bootable Linux CD Announced

joestar writes "MandrakeSoft just announced the release of the MandrakeMove release candidate, a special desktop version of the Mandrake Linux distribution that boots live from the CD and uses a USB key (included in the retail version) to automatically store personal data. It looks a bit like Knoppix, but comes with more features, such as the capability to eject the MandrakeMove CD-ROM during its use, in order to read audio or video files from another CD! The download release candidate is available here."

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  1. USB Key by stanmann · · Score: 4, Informative

    I must assume that USB Key means thumbdrive, although I couldn't find any reference on the linked site indicating what size this might be..

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    1. Re:USB Key by LinuxTek · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you go to the order site, and preorder MandrakeMove, you can see that it's a 128MB Key.

      That, and the $59.99 price makes it very wortwhile.

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  2. That "removable cd feature"... by geesus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Is already in knoppix, check out the "cheat-codes" file, its a boot param which obviously isnt enabled by default so knoppix can run on systems with low memory

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  3. You can remove the Knoppix CD by cesman · · Score: 5, Informative

    At the splashscreen:knoppix toram

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  4. Forgive me if I'm wrong... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    But I see no indication on the MandrakeMove page that the USB key is included with the retail release (as stated in the Slash).

    Just an FYI.

  5. Re:price by Black+Perl · · Score: 4, Informative

    think it'd be useful to know the price (obviously for the USB key) and size of the key. and perhapse a tentative release. sure, its RC1, but the final could be in a while

    Why not just follow links to the Mandrake Store? The price is $59.90 and it includes a 128MB USB 2.0 key.

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  6. Re:Good idea using a USB Key.... by joestar · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not anymore since LG fixed their buggy and so-called ATAPI drives.

  7. Re:Great for schools by grolschie · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...or you could have no harddrive, and boot Linux from the network via a remote desktop. Means that they can do what they will, and nothing to mess up. This works fine also. I run Windows 2000 and Photoshop via Citrix on the said Linux system no problems. My pc at work is a P166 with a tiny 32MB RAM. Everything is done on the server. Just can't do animations or play games. It's fine for academic/office work though.

  8. Re:Good idea using a USB Key.... by The+Analog+Kid · · Score: 4, Informative

    CD-Rs/CD-RWs were not affected by the FLUSH_CACHE bug, only the CD-Roms were. I think it even says so on the LG site.

  9. Re:DVD... by aws4y · · Score: 2, Informative

    4+Gb of opensource/free software on a single disc... why don't do a Linux DVD Live distro? ..just wondering.
    Knoppix has already done it.

    As for live CD's, I think that they are a tribute to the flexibility of opensource software in that they show how OSS can do someting that proproietary software vendors would not dare do, given there hightly restrictive licences.

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  10. The direction the parade is heading. by chill · · Score: 4, Informative

    I just installed Mepis on my laptop last night -- a Debian derived Live CD that has the ability to install direct from the Live CD. Very slick.

    The SuSE 9.0 Live CD didn't recognize the wireless LAN card on my desktop, so that didn't get anywhere.

    Mepis was the first Live CD that I could effectively use for work, and not just a rescue CD or quick test. I used various tools for hours on the laptop (450 MHz P3, 328 Mb RAM) and it just worked.

    Live CDs are the way to go.

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  11. Re:USB hard drives? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Basically I'd say anything that doesnt require drivers (and even some stuff that does), should work like snap.
    I loaded knoppix the other day and spent a good 5 minutes trying to figure out if and how it is possible to mount my usb memory stick (the manual promises it works on w2k/xp, but w98 needs drivers).
    While I was trying to figure out if I could somehow mount it, I didnt notice nice knoppix had already put an icon for me on the desktop. Doh!

  12. Re:Membership and Mandrake? by nolife · · Score: 4, Informative

    Okay, I'm an idiot. I found the torrent link from the mirrors page.

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  13. Re:Membership and Mandrake? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    ISO are available for anyone (just read the stuff about membership, it just strongly encourages you but you can go on).

  14. Hmmm, USB Keys. Usefull...almost by Billy+the+Mountain · · Score: 2, Informative

    Seems to me that these keys are becoming more popular. What seems to be lacking is the ability to install typical software on the key so that the software will run on the computer that you just plugged the key into. Yes, simple software DOES work, but once you get beyond a typical software installation with multitudes of files, your ability to run it on a "stranger" machine fades markedly.

    BTM

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  15. Re:Good idea using a USB Key.... by Dave_bsr · · Score: 4, Informative

    Go To: us.lgservice.com and go to Product support, then Device driver, CD-ROM and "Emergency download for Physical Dead Drive from Mandrake Linux 9.2". So you're drive isn't really dead.

    Also, by going to LG's site, you can get firmware updates to fix the problem.

    And finally...I'm sure Mandrake fixed this problem in newer kernels, as did the Gentoo team for their kernel.

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  16. Re:Good way to circumvent library filters? by spuke4000 · · Score: 2, Informative

    You have to be able to boot from the CD though. Personally, I disable this by default to save ~1 sec at boot time, but I'm assuming that most library admins will have done this, or will shortly after the first person boots from a live CD (or else, why not just pop in a Win2K CD and do a fresh install of windows on that machine while your at it?)

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  17. Re:Mac by ploppy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Gentoo have a Gnome/KDE liveCD for PowerPC.

  18. USB Key only in Retail version by DavidLeblond · · Score: 2, Informative

    From what I understand, the retail version is the only version that SUPPORTS the USB key. It doesn't say anywhere that it comes with one.

  19. Re:Good idea using a USB Key.... by mickwd · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's not the best-designed web page, but it's mentioned on Mandrake's home page - it's in the news section towards the right (but has been pushed down a little due to more recent news).

    It's also on Mandrake's errata page, this time a little more prominently.

  20. Re:Silly name - MandrakeMove by zm · · Score: 2, Informative
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  21. No, includes... by msimm · · Score: 2, Informative
    Here's a preorder link. I quote:
    Content

    - 1 bootable CD
    - 1 USB key, 128 Mb
    - 1 booklet
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  22. Some answers.. by msimm · · Score: 2, Informative

    Are here on the preorder page. I haven't downloaded the beta yet, but in the past Mandrake included things like stock (vanilla) versions of Xine *without* css support. They may still, but I'm so in the habit of installing the PLF files before doing anything that I couldn't honestly tell you if 9.2 came with being able to read encrypted DVD's out of the box. FWIW not all DVD's are encrypted and having a non-css DVD player *is* useful, just not as useful.

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    1. Re:Some answers.. by PhB95 · · Score: 4, Informative

      I currently try 9.2 : Xine has been replaced by Totem (which uses a xine engine). To play encrypted DVDs I just added libdvdcss from plf. This is becoming very easy, I remember I had a few things to find/download/install to get xine to play encrypted DVDs on Mandrake 9.0 and 9.1. And getting it to correctly handle DVD menus was not so simple either, while now totem does well out of the box.

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  23. Ok I guess if you've never heard of Knoppix by bogie · · Score: 2, Informative

    Considering how long distros like Knoppix have been around this product is hardly pioneering, but may be useful for Mandrake users who don't want to use any other distro.

    If you want to check out a neat Knoppix based distro that's only 50MB check out, Dam Small Linux.
    http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/

    It obviously doesn't have the same amount of apps that Knoppix has, but for checking out linux, surfing the web, using IRC, and doing some light office editting its pretty cool. It also unlike Knoppix and I'm sure Mandrake will run on a 486 with 16MM ram. So if you bored or on dialup check out Dam Small Linux.

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  24. Re:DVD... by ploppy · · Score: 3, Informative

    Cloop (compressed loopback filesystem) used in many liveCDs is quite inefficient in the way it constantly re-reads the CD. It doesn't cache very much information and throws a lot of the data it does read and decompress away before it reaches the filesystem. This is because cloop does not understand the filesystem it is compressing, and therefore cannot use any clever caching strategies.

    LiveCDs using squashfs as the compressed filesystem are much faster. Try dynebolic.org... As the writer of squashfs I am however a bit biased :-)

  25. Re:That "removable cd feature"... is better by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    That's not the same. Not everything is loaded into memory, you start on the CD, run the video player, remove the CD, play the video (can't run anything else) put back the CD, can run new applications.

    That needs far less memory than loading everything into memory.

  26. Re:Since when is Mandrake *not* for the desktop? by damiam · · Score: 2, Informative

    Knoppix has supported a USB homedir for quite a while, Mandrake's may be more integrated, but it's not a new concept.

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  27. Re:DVD... by /dev/trash · · Score: 2, Informative

    Knoppix already comes in a DVD flavour.

  28. no USB drive by frovingslosh · · Score: 3, Informative
    from Mandrake's site: (Note: The Beta version does not support USB key features).

    and

    the MandrakeMove Boxed Edition provides the ability to save configuration and personal data to a USB key.

    So this release canidate cannot save to the USB key, and it looks like a download version may never do that, since they emphasise that it's the Boxed Edition that does that. Bummer.

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  29. Re:Since when is Mandrake *not* for the desktop? by smcavoy · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, knoppix fully supports USB drives for home dirs.
    Not sure if it's included with the base knoppix yet, but there was a version if knoppix that will AES encrypt the home dir stored on the usb drive.

  30. mklivecd by buchanmilne · · Score: 2, Informative

    Of course.

    A seperate project related to Mandrake and Live CDs is livecd, which has some tools available for making Mandrake-based Live CDs.

    mklivecd is a simple tool to generate a live CD, and it is included in Mandrake 9.2 contribs. Basically, you can do something like this to try it out:

    # urpmi mklivecd
    # mklivecd livecd.iso

    There are some issues, which have been addressed in the CVS version.

    Also new in CVS is a seperate minimal CD-to-HD installer.

    I have made about 3 Live CDs based on Mandrake 9.2 using mklivecd.