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India Test-Fires Cryogenic Rocket Engine

alphakappa writes "Wired News reports that India has successfully testfired a cryogenic rocket engine that can be used to 'launch high-altitude satellites, send a man to the moon -- or build intercontinental ballistic missiles'. The rocket which typically has to fire for 12 minutes during flight was fired for 17 minutes during ground testing. So are we gonna see competition in the moon race? Remember, India has already spoken about sending a mission to the moon and it has joined the Galileo consortium along with China."

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  1. actually... by acehole · · Score: 5, Informative

    It does have to do with freezing of sorts, because the gases that are required for fuel oxygen and hydrogen (as well as a mixture of others) are gaseous in normal atmospheric conditions. They are required to be cooled down to a liquid state, hence the name "cryogenic rocket engine".

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  2. Re:not the moon by TomV · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I was listening to a debate about outsourcing on BBC Radio the other night, and they pointed out that in Bangalore there's a lot of worry about all the call centre backroom IT jobs getting outsourced to China, where the costs are so low that India can't possibly compete.

    I agree that the Moon isn't the *real* purpose of the Indian space programme, but, just as with the US 30 years ago, aiming high helps to hit the lower targets, like comsats, earth imaging and so forth, not to mention the huge boost to national self-esteem and all the benefits that can bring in sheer morale terms - when you've got to the Moon, what challenge can you honestly say is too big to even attempt?

  3. Re:actually... (+a URL) by trystanu · · Score: 5, Informative

    A nice article on Cryogenic Rocket engines is available here .

  4. am i the only one confused ? by kettlehead · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "manned mission to the moon...."
    Am i the only one confused. Indias moon ambitions were said to be restricted to only firing a unmanned galileo type mission to the moon. Which is pretty simple considering that they were planning to use the existing GSLV(Geo-Stationary Launch Vehicle) set-up. Why the sudden shift to a manned mission? A manned mission to the moon will never happen in India because of a number of reasons most notably the fact that we spend peanuts on space, compare isro's(indian space research org.) budget to NASA.

    Also i thought GSLV - the satellite launch vehicle was totally indigenously built, Though WIRED seems to claim that the engine was Russian!
    Anyway i think its a great achievement considering the amount India spends on space research.

  5. Re:moon race? nah... by Brahmastra · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This ICBM nonsense seems to be floating all over the place. Only a bloody idiot would use a cryogenic engine for an ICBM. You don't need to build a god damned geostationery satellite launch vehicle to build an ICBM. India's Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle which has been operational for many years now can easily be converted to an operational ICBM. Cryogenic engines just add the need for a lot more ground facilities for a launch. There just isn't a need for an ICBM since China and Pakistan are right next door to India. The attitude seems to be.. "oh India's launching satellites? It must be for something bad." Get over it assholes.

  6. Re:Before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why steal? A significant of the students in US science and engineering programs are Indian, and I don't know how many are from China. It's funny, the US will "teach a man to fish" in countries that it bitches about IP theft, and will "give a man a fish" to 3rd world countries who really need some sort of economic base. Dumbasses.

  7. Cool! by Tim · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now we can outsource our space program!

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  8. Re:Before by MoP030 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Before anyone comes out and spouts the "stolen or bought technology" meme
    ...we should recall the meme that US and Soviet rockets are based on German rockets (further developed by German scientists).
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  9. Light the flames by psylent · · Score: 5, Interesting
    ok, let's look at this one bullet at a time
    1. How come no one has started talking about feeding the poor and increasing literacy levels? They have? Oh look, ye wise learned ones. Do you think that space research is only to leave the surface with just adventure in mind? Satellites beam educational programmes to community televisions. They map our natural resources and planners can optimize utilization. It is a society very different from other countries so accept it. There is no benefit measuring other cultures using the same yardstick. It works for us, be happy. There are deficiencies in our society too and corrective programmes have a lot of inertia.
    2. The caste system is officially abolished. It worked for the society at one point of time as described in the "Laws of Manu" (yes our history goes back quite a bit, might not be very well documented but good enough for scholars to study) and it doesnt work in today's society and we try to adapt. Politicians exploit this issue too like all other issues to line their pocket but lets not discuss politics. Women always had freedom in our society, the issues of sati and purdah were because of influences on society due to twists and turns of history, I am not (and maybe most of you are not) historians and we do not have the expertise of analysing this in detail. What is more interesting is the reverse backlash that is taking place. Some communities that have traditionally been oppressed had been assigned quotas (supposed to be in place for a few decades) to raise the average level. This worked for sometime however currently I feel that this is going overboard. Once a structure is in place, it is very difficult to dismantle it (eg: the USA is supposed to be free of racial hatred, dude I am an Indian living here in the US and I know how much of that is true).
    3. Most of you would just link India to outsourcing and look at this forum as a sounding board for your pent up frustration. If it works to calm you down then it is good for you. This is slashdot, I realise that it is highly US centric. This is a byproduct of capitalism so I have nothing to add. I dont like it either when people lose jobs here and jobs are shipped to other countries. Solution I can propose before I go and grab breakfast: add value to what you are doing, it will help (doesnt sound right, does it?).