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First Xouvert Milestone Released
An anonymous reader writes "
The first milestone of xouvert, the X-server replacement has been released. Xouvert includes MAS giving the X server its very own sound server. Nice. :) Also, just noticed that enlightenment quietly released an update to the 0.16 series.
" (Here's a link to the Xouvert download page.)
For the non-french speaking under you: Xouvert means "X open".
Uhm, there are actually not that many X servers. It's not like windowmanagers or anything like that. Besides , the goal of Xouvert is to get their changes back to XFree
Well to quote:
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Eugenia (IP: ---.osnews.com) - Posted on 2003-12-09 01:21:59
Xouvert: XFree86 fork with some code cleanups and addition of patches that the xfree86 guys were snobbing.
freedesktop.org's X: Re-write of the core of their server (not a fork), rewrite of some of the extenstions, while reusing some xfree86 code mostly for some other extensions and drivers, but overall a new thing.
Xouvert would be interesting to serve as the "middle man" towards the migration to fdo's X.
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So yes you'r right. I read on freedesktop.orgs site, or maybe it wasnt, and maybe it was old, but the server only needed less than 800k To run or it was of that size. Their server so far requires a compile for you to configure it as there are no configuration files. That alone i feel would cut out some bloat. The freedesktop.org promises a lot more i believe where as this one we're talking about just imporves on the current X server. But, any improvments are welcome ones.
Thanx for the text Eugenia
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At least GTK is planning to switch to it, I guess QT as well.
Already in progress at Freedesktop.org, thanks to the awesome Keith Packard. There's Cairo for vector graphics rendering and some unnamed project for double buffered/transparent/warpable windows (and yes there are screenshots, click the link!). Freedesktop.org is rapidly becoming host to many projects that are innovating in the Linux desktop arena. Check out some of the other software hosted there. Of particular interest (to me at least) is D-BUS combined with HAL.
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As said before this guy appears *not* to be a Dev on the Xouvert project.
Have a read through some of his previous posts on other topics.
Thanks.
Ripping an new rectum in the fabric of spacetime.
I've seen MAS demoed on a couple of shows already and I did like what I saw. They are aiming for professional quality sound delivery with extremly low latencies which definitly is a good thing. MAS of course is network transparent of course, but the network is just another input-/output device to MAS (like a soundcard), you don't have to use it for local playback. It is a handy feature though: You can pipe your sound to an effects mashine for processing, something that might come in handy in a professional environment.
Regards, Tobias
I think the following should settle your fears.
//end direct quote from site.
From their site
"Many of the visually impaired have finely tuned auditory sensibilities, allowing them to react quickly to sound. From its beginning, MAS was designed to handle timing issues exceedingly well. It was optimized to provide tight synchronization of multiple media streams. More importantly, for users dependent on audio cues, it is designed to stop some functions and start others quickly. For example, a user, hearing the opening syllables of a menu option, can either select it or move to another option without waiting for a complete articulation of the option. MAS's original accessibility requirements, developed with leading accessibility authorities, included:
* Ability to stop utterances quickly
* Controllable low latency
* Format independent media handling
* High audio quality
* Multiplexing--with priorities
* Small memory footprint
* Synchronization of multiple media stream
"MAS enables low-latency Internet conferencing and telephony. Automatic bandwidth measurements and MAS's dynamically-switchable CODECs insure that the conference quality scales from 56K modems to T1 lines".
"MAS integrates with a compatible X11 server on your desktop. It processes graphic information locally, alleviating the need for network transmission of uncompressed graphical content. Graphic events are easily synchronized with audio events for professional-quality multimedia and accessibility-enabled applications."
"MAS handles network-distributed media processing and intricate format configuration tasks. It continually measures system performance and adjusts its actions depending on the available system resources. The longer it runs, the better it knows your system".
Obviously this has been designed for performance/scalability.Of course the real trial is actually running it for yourself but give it a chance before you write it off.
Well, you could have read the Xouvert FAQ before posting to educate yourself on what they actually plan on improving. That way, you wound't sound like you have no idea what you are talking about. Anyway, from the FAQ:
2.5) So why is X so slow on my machine if not for network transparency?
Yes, XFree86 /can/ be slow, especially on uniprocessor machines, but network transparency is NOT at fault. More common culprits appear to be toolkits, video drivers, and font rendering/render. Render really needs to DMA driven. Right now it pulls bits from the framebuffer using the CPU which with PCI is abysmally slow.
"Changing resolution on the fly springs to mind as one thing it cant do"
Thats strange , because I've been able to do ctrl-alt-+ and ctrl-alt-minus to change the resolution ever since linux 1.2 days...
informative, sure. but... you fail to mention that this feature requires support of the window _managers_ to be able to use this feature. to use this in kde you're gonna need 3.2 which is still in beta. i'm not quite as familiar with other window managers, but last i looked into this, there weren't ANY that let you resize your desktop on the fly similiar to right clicking on the desktop, thenchoosing "resolutions", then selecting something different than the one you're using, and giving you and option to try out the new one.
IIRC, xrandr has been in xfree since the 4.3 series, which i suppose you could consider "a while now". this version of the server which was released 27 Feb of 2003. are the wm's slow to implement this feature? this is a feature Microsoft has had for 8 years now.
while XFree86 _is_ nice, it seems very cumbersome to change. there's probably a small list of feature requests from the user community out there, and they're not getting implemented.
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