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Remail: IBM is Reinventing Email

mrbarkeeper writes "IBM Research has thought about email and came up with a prototype of a better mail client. From their website: 'The Collaborative User Experience (CUE) team in IBM Research has spent nearly a decade studying email. Not only has email become one of the most pervasive and successful collaborative tools available, it has also become a key component of IBM's Lotus Software offerings. In many ways, email can be seen as a victim of its own success - users increasingly suffer from overload and interruptions as well as use email in a manner for which it was not intended.' Several ideas worth discussing, some good, some irrelevant. But still worth a gander for anyone who spends most of their day in their inbox.

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  1. Reinventing EMail CLIENT by zeux · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Interesting ideas except that the headline should title 'Reinventing EMail CLIENT'.

    I was looking for ideas against SPAM and nothing there, just a new way to organize your messages and Inbox folder. Some ideas are really good though, like the threads.

    But for me the email as we know it is slowly dying because of SPAM and lack of authentication features.

    I am still waiting for a brand new EMail system and I know that's a huge debate. But if we don't do anything we will slowly die under thousand of spam messages... Too bad.

    1. Re:Reinventing EMail CLIENT by pileated · · Score: 3, Insightful

      SpamBayes is the answer at least in my experience. Yes it is a little work and makes the user become responsible for email management to some extent. But users are also responsible for putting gas in their cars.

      Authentication is something I'm pretty unfamiliar with, at least in terms of how it would actually be implemented, but that seems to me like another example of users becoming responsible for themselves.

      Perhaps the people who depend on email most will learn to use bayesian filters as well as authentication and the others will be left to just whine. Eventually they'll catch on as well.

      Just my two cent prediction for what will eventually happen.

  2. Pressure to Respond Quickly by mgcsinc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I must admit that I disagree with the assertion that "Pressure to Respond Quickly" is some sort of negative issue with e-mail; in fact, I'd go so far as to say that with the volume of mail in inboxes today, people are actually not feeling enough pressure to respond quickly. Sure, sometimes we're okay with waiting for a response for a while, but oftentimes nowadays email is used in the role that voicemail used to play, and if one receives a voicemail, one tends to reply directly afterwards. Sometimes, the same attitude needs to be taken in regards to email. Here, I see a much more accurate and responsible use of the priority feature in messages being used, with some type of slider built into the client to rate the priority of a message more efficiently as it is sent...

    1. Re:Pressure to Respond Quickly by wowbagger · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I must disagree with you.

      If you want an immediate response, get off your fat ass and come to my office. If you cannot, then pick up the phone and call me.

      One of the BIGGEST problems in today's world is this "I MUST HANDLE THIS NOW!" mindeset we find ourselves in.

      No, you DO NOT NEED AN IMMEDIATE RESPONSE.

      Unless the building is on fire, or somebody is in cardiac arrest, or "they've pushed the big red button", you can damn well wait a few minutes (hours, days even) for a response.

      Too damn many people think they are being "productive" because they are on the phone all the time. No, you are not being "productive". You are being busy. There is a big difference.

      Forcing people to wait for things makes them assess the value of those things, and culls the wheat from the chaff. BS requests get dropped, important requests get made.

      But too many people think they can wait until the last minute, then dump a load of shit onto somebody else and make them jump. They use that as a tool to get what they want - they condition you to jump when they ring the bell, and eventually they can slip past anything they want.

      We are turning into a world of three year olds - "I WANNA GLASS OF WATER - NOW!".

  3. Work? by BWJones · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But still worth a gander for anyone who spends most of their day in their inbox.

    Who spends most of their day in the inbox? Seriously though, a decent email client is found in OS X with good junk mail filters and nesting etc... Most times it gets near 98% of the junk email and I have yet to have it reject a valid email.

    Also from the article: Pressure to Respond Quickly. People report feeling pressure to be more responsive to their email. Messages arrive continuously throughout the day, contributing to the sense of urgency to respond quickly.

    Why reinvent the wheel? If the message is not urgent enough to pick up the phone or in our case, ring someone up on iChatAV, then the paradigm does not need changing.

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  4. Sweet function by beacher · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've always liked the way most newsreaders threaded posts - IBM's threaded model is one feature that would definately make me switch over. This is a simple yet overlooked feature that Eudora and Outlook have missed. I haven't played with KMail yet and don't know if it has it. Why hasn't email threading been done up until now? -B

  5. Re:key component of IBM's Lotus Software by Deacon+Jones · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think you meant most secure email client ever, with workflow built in, and an easily accessible API.

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  6. Re:how about... by cK-Gunslinger · · Score: 4, Insightful


    I don't get on how everyone looks down upon HTML email. I understand that it can have issues, but this isn't the dark ages anymore. Some ideas just can't be expressed as efficiently in plain text. Sometimes bold type is needed. Sometimes a proper table is needed. Sometimes embedded images. Even blinking marquee text may be needed! (just kidding!). And you can't deny the usability of having an active HTML link embedded in an email. Maybe XML or something may be more appropriate (but probably just as prone to abuse), but the idea that a terminal window and pine should be the only allowable way to view email is severely outdated.

  7. An Outlook Clone??? by RobertAG · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The screenshots look like Outlook, but with extra windows for the calendar and other things. I suppose this will take up desktop space, but then I've been wondering how I was going to waste all this extra space I now have with a dual head video card...

    From the article...
    "People are overwhelmed by the volume of new email they receive each day. They report spending increasing amounts of time simply managing their email."

    In MY world, I call this SPAM. I didn't need 10 years of research to know it was a BAD thing. Spam, I think, is better stopped at the servers or better yet, by blacklisting the spammers.

    Outlook (and other clients) have filters that can direct email into various folders sorted by importance. In this way, the important stuff gets my FIRST attention, while the least important stuff can wait.

    However, a lot of this aforementioned filtering capability is ALSO dependent on a person's ability to fully utilize their email client. I know of a number of people in management positions who are FULLY CLUELESS regarding moving files from one directory to another. Setting up a filter WOULD BE totally beyond them. Without even basic computer literacy skills, any new technology that requires interaction with a user interface is bound to stumble. Relying the smarts of the end user is simply not a good business model unless you're dealing with technically-savvy people.

  8. Re:key component of IBM's Lotus Software by sukotto · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Perhaps Notes is very secure. Certainly the "confidential" tab is useful as it makes encryption transparent and easy to use (don't give me any of that "GPG/PGP is easy" nonsense) but...

    [rant]
    I feel strongly negative about Lotus Notes. It almost NEVER works the way I expect and *want* it to.

    Trying to actually use Notes is unbelieveably frustrating. From trying to search through old messages (why doesn't searching between two dates work?) to the idiotic way it sorts by subject (it doesn't realise that "subject" and "Re: subject" should sort next to each other.) to the simplest tasks like copy/paste... they couldn't even get copy/paste to work correctly. AARRGGHHH!!!!

    And the worst thing is that my company requires me to use the damn thing for my job.

    Notes-eesss... we hates it! We hates it forever!
    [/rant]

    Ok... I'll stop now before I really get worked up.

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  9. Lotus Notes by khrustalicious · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Notes might not be the most elegant piece of software in the world, but one thing that astounds me is the insistence of people to just classify it as 'email.'

    It's far more than that, and to think it's just an email program is like calling the Vatican a dump because the restroom is nasty. Okay, stupid example.

    Anyway, think about it. When a user has Notes installed, it is far more than just email. They instantly have access to a wide range of applications, some of which can be extremely complex. They can participate in complicated workflow applications simply by having the Notes client; they don't even need to access the databases where these applications are written.

    Think about some of the brilliant executives out there, and trying to show them how to use some new travel approval database. Then consider that all a good programmer needs to do is send the relevant info to the exec when necessary, and the exec simply clicks Yes, No, whatever and it's done. All from email. I don't know any other email programs that do that out of the box. You'll need about 5 different applications within Microsoft to do that for Outlook.

    Anyway, Notes is far more than just email.

    1. Re:Lotus Notes by hendridm · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I was the AC who posted the parent. I agree that it has some truly innovative features (security, integration), but it also lacks in others (Lotus Script, ODBC anyone?). But the fact (popular opinion?) remains that the Notes e-mail client SUCKS. Do we have to trade powerful features for usability? I don't think we should have to in this case, since it's the little things that suck about Notes that could easily be fixed without sacrificing features... Things like F5 CLEARS the password instead of refreshing the screen, which anyone used to Windows apps will find really annoying. F9 refreshes instead. I want to know which guy decided, "Let's be different, we don't have to follow M$'s conventions. Let's make F9 the refresh key!".

      There are other things like windows not redrawing properly, Open Mail not exposing new messages, and what I like to call the "Red Box of Death", which any Lotus admins out there will know what I'm talking about. The interface is clunky to me, too, but I suppose that's a side effect of it being more of a framework than an application.

      For the record, I was a forced Notes 4.6/R5 admin for a very short period, and I still have the slash marks on my wrists to prove it. It was awhile ago, and it's possible Notes is much better now, but I doubt it, given how horrible it was to work with the first 5 major revisions.

  10. Re:key component of IBM's Lotus Software by randyest · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You didn't RTFA, did you? I don't think outlook "group by" is the same thing that the article describle, or at least I can't get it to look like what the article images show. I suspect the apple labels are different from this too, but I can't confirm here. I can and did check outlook, it doesn't seem to do these label speratorsm, and even outlook help describes "group views" differently than what I'm thinking of:

    A group is a set of items with something in common, such as e-mail messages from the same sender or tasks with the same due date. Group items to see related items together, similar to an outline. For example, group items by priority to separate high-priority items from low-priority items. You can expand or collapse the group headings to display or hide the items they contain.

    You can only group items that are in a view based on a table or a timeline view type. When you group items by a field that can contain more than one entry, such as the Categories field, items may appear more than once in the table or timeline. For example, if you group by the field, Categories, and an item has two categories, such as Business and Ideas, the item is listed under both the Business group heading and the Ideas group heading. Though you see the item more than once, it exists as only one item. Any changes you make to one instance of the item are stored with all instances of the item.

    The feature in the article shows horizontal dividing lines between sections in list/table views which change as you re-sort. So a view by date would look something like:

    Monday 3/4, 2 messages, one unread
    message 1
    message 2
    Tuesday 3/5, 1 message, 0 unread
    message 1
    etc.

    If you click to re-sort by another field, such as date or sender, you get a re-sorted list with new divider labels to break up the list.

    Tell me how to do that in Outlook please.

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  11. Re:Blowtus Goats by autiger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Most of the "non-standard" features in Notes are a direct result of two factors; Notes was created prior to a market-dominating windowing interface and needed it's own paradigm and it was and is multi-platform (although the Mac client is the only non-Windoze one left these days, it previously had OS/2, AIX, and Solaris clients). I'm amazed at how the normally anti-MS /. crowd so happily wishes everything to conform to Microsoft's interface views which aren't even completely consistent across all the Office suite products.