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The Life of a Spammer

An anonymous reader writes "The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ran an interesting article today about the life of a "small time" spammer. It is interesting to note that even a religiously zealous grandmother can mire our inboxes with junk." That's Flo Fox, of Slidell, LA.

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  1. This Flo Fox? by torgosan · · Score: 4, Informative

    Fox, Flo
    127 Rue Acadian
    Slidell, LA 70461-5203
    (985) 646-2225

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    1. Re:This Flo Fox? by Unsolicited+Commando · · Score: 3, Informative

      Fox, Flo
      127 Rue Acadian
      Slidell, LA 70461-5203
      (985) 646-2225

      Place collect calls to this number.

      "Why don't you just hit delete?" Why don't you have fun refusing charges all day?

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    2. Re:This Flo Fox? by pocketlint · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually my fiance knows this person. that's the wrong address. The one you're looking for is as follows:

      1711 W Hall Ave
      Slidell, LA 70460-2536
      (985) 781-2542

    3. Re:This Flo Fox? by bigberk · · Score: 5, Informative
      Somebody should make a website listing all those numbers
      Somebody has. And their lists are very reliable. These sites don't just list your average granny spammer, but rather the people who are behind the spam business. The sources are investigated and records are compiled over time with community feedback. These sites cause so much trouble to spammers that several Internet worms have been released specifically to DDoS these sites. No joke:
    4. Re:This Flo Fox? by pocketlint · · Score: 5, Informative

      Whoops, let me elaborate. That's the wrong Florence Fox. My fiance went to the same church (St. Genevive) as her and knew her as the bandana lady. Apparently she needed the bandana to help with her migraines.

      She is listed at the following address:

      Fox, Florence F
      1711 W Hall Ave
      Slidell, LA 70460-2536
      (985) 781-2542
      (985) 643-9417

  2. Spamming doesn't pay by mabu · · Score: 4, Informative
    More evidence of the reality of spamming:

    Fox's days of carefree spamming are past, and so is the good money. She worries that bankruptcy is just around the corner and blames the Internet companies -- who have become more adept at filtering out spam.


    You can bet that this woman is a relative or trailer park neighbor of the "cajun spam gang" that's been operating in the area for awhile. I think most of them have gone out of business though.
  3. Off shore? by weave · · Score: 4, Informative
    OK, some contradiction here. She claims she spams through off shore services, but it also says she pays $1,000 a month for a lease line. That doesn't make sense.

    If it's off shore, she originates messags from there, and the bandwidth require would be satisfied with a 14.4k modem. Upload one message, message list stored off shore, fire.

    So who does she get her lease line from in the U.S.? Or is all of this just typical spammer lies?

  4. Re:How bothersome is spam for most slashdotters? by YetAnotherDave · · Score: 5, Informative

    tip - if you have a scoring system like spamassassin, set two thresholds. One which sends mail to the spam box, and a second, higher one which sends to /dev/null

    On my system, (spapassassin + spamass-milter) I file at 6, and reject mail at 14

    I waited a while to ensure that the bayes was tuned properly before adding the reject rule, but if I didn't have it my mail'd be totally unusable...

    If you don't have a scoring system, get one :)

  5. So what? by cluge · · Score: 5, Informative

    So now we have an AARP member spamming. Does it make any difference to me? It doesn't matter if the theif is a grandma wearing a WWJD T-shirt or a young fella with a ski mask. Theft is theft, and a thief is a thief.

    Whats she say to defend her theft - things like "....This (spam) lets the little guy compete". What does she think about the time, energy and costs small providers have to dish out to defend their network against SPAM? How many small guys have had their machines shut down because of false return addresses, or an onslaught of spam that makes mail services crawl? What about those small guys BUZZZZ Wrong answer grandma!

    She doesn't stop there, she goes on to say the even more bizzare "When I defend what we do, I talk about free speech". I looked at the constitution to be sure and nowhere did it say "You may steal from others, and then force them to accept your speech into their homes". I believe the consitution protects speech, but doesn't force others to have to accept/listen to ones speech. The amendment is about government cesorship, NOT about theft of services to promote a get rich schemes. BUZZZZ Wrong answer grandma!

    So she makes 2000 - 4000 / week. After several years of college I don't make 4k a week, but then again, even if I could improve my economic situation, my personal moral compass wouldn't allow me to what she does. Perhaps she needs to read the bible more. What was it again?? Thou shall not steal?? Thou shall not bear false witness?? - Stuff like that.

    With 80% or more of all e-mail being spam, the signal to noise ratio is heading south fast. To stop spam you have to stop spammers.

    Here is the towns website
    http://www.slidell.la.us

    Now can any one let me know which provider provides this type of person with access? I have some IP blocks to add to my blacklist.

    According to information -
    Flo Fox - Slidell LA
    985 646 2225

    I don't know if that number is correct - but it's publically listed.

    AngryPeopleRule

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  6. They just destroyed my email address, for a start. by steve_l · · Score: 4, Informative

    Two weeks ago someone started spamming taiwan using my email address as the spoofed source. Now they are branching out to yahoo.com

    I know this as I get all the bounce mail. Spammers get a lot of bounce mail, and 300+ mails an hour is enough to kill the inbox. Then there is all the 'stop spamming me' responses, or the 'j.user is out the office messages' -this is brutally hard to filter without destroying all useful content (like my own bounce mail)

    So I have just been evicted from an email address (on my own domain) that I have had for five years, having to notify friends that is has moved, and generally suffer from trying to clean up the damage.

    That is what spam does.

  7. FLORENCE F. FOX aka Mrs. Bruce Connelly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    A1 E Services is Bruce Connelly and Flo Fox aka Mrs. Bruce Connelly.

    A1E_Services (NETBLK-BRW-5021-A1ESERVICES)
    1711 West Hall Ave
    Slidell, LA 70460
    US

    Netname: BRW-5021-A1ESERVICES
    Netblock: 67.96.78.0 - 67.96.79.255

    Coordinator:
    Hostmaster (ZB13-ARIN) hostmaster@broadwing.com
    512-427-3700

    Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

    NS3.BROADWING.NET 216.140.16.252
    NS4.BROADWING.NET 216.140.17.252

    Connelly, Bruce (BC891-ARIN) a1esupport@aol.com
    A1E SERVICES
    1711 W Hall Avenue
    Slidell, LA 70460
    (504) 649 - 6248

    http://www.sec.state.la.us/cgibin?rqstyp=crpdtl& rq sdta=34331685D

    34331685D
    Name: FOXC, INC.
    Type Entity: Business Corporation
    Status: Active
    Domicile Address: 1711 WEST HALL AVENUE, SLIDELL, LA 70460
    Incorporated: 05/19/1989 | Effective: 05/17/1989
    Registered Agent (Appointed 5/19/1989): FLORENCE F. FOX, 1711 WEST
    HALL AVENUE, SLIDELL, LA 70460
    Officer(s)/Director(s): FLORENCE F. FOX | CAROLYN J. FREDERICK |
    BRUCE
    D. CONNELLY
    Incorporator(s): FLORENCE F. FOX

  8. Re:How harmful is spam... REALLY? by Kevitt · · Score: 3, Informative

    Well, I'll give you my own numbers.

    73% of all the mail hitting my servers during the last week were either rejected via RBL, via access.db, or via SA. For the mail that was actually allowed to be delivered, 48% was tagged as SPAM -- meaning it met SA criteria for the thresholds I have set to be SPAM.

    In the last month I've spent ~30hrs (not all at once) dealing with spam and spam-related tasks such as user Q&A, dealing with false-positives, dealing with false-negatives, RBL related, server maintenence and patching, etc. That's almost 4 working days.

    Do I feel it's 'worth it'? YES. It's necessary at any rate. I'd rather cull out the crap or block it entirely, and my users are much happier, my backup jobs are quicker, and my servers are healthier for it. Do I enjoy it? NO! Are there other things I could do or that my employer would like done? YES!

    I know you know this, and no it's not always a huge time-sink, but when it is it's a big one.

  9. Re:Spam: BSA as a tool? by cyberformer · · Score: 3, Informative

    Nearly all the software advertised in spam is counterfeit, so you can forward spam that advertises software to the BSA. Selling illegal copies of software is something that law-enforcement takes more seriously than spam itself.

    A few software companies actually ask you to forward them spam that advertises their products. See Symantec's Spamwatch site as an example.

  10. Where'd all the spam go? by nigelo · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have two accounts on Hotmail that usually get 30-50 spam messages a day.

    Now, 3 messages in each, total, for the last two days.

    Did MS finally start filtering this stuff out?

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    *Still* negative function...
    1. Re:Where'd all the spam go? by annielaurie · · Score: 3, Informative

      They've implemented (without fanfare it seems) a "report this as spam" procedure. Apparently if you take the time/trouble to send them your spams by clicking on the pulldown menu provided, they'll add the spammers to whatever filtering system they use now. Like you, I went from 100+ a day down to only one spam today. It's downright refreshing.

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  11. They've already been sued for spamming by infolib · · Score: 4, Informative

    See it here

    Wouldn't that make it pretty easy getting a verified address?

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