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Giant International Fusion Reactor Draws Nearer
nnnneedles writes "BBC is reporting that scientists are deciding on where to build the world's first big fusion reactor. The international effort is described as the boldest nuclear initiative since the Manhattan Project, and holds promise for future unlimited, clean energy. The choice on where to build the reactor currently stands between Japan and France, but apparantly, the U.S. is opposing a french site because France opposed the war in Iraq." There's also an AP story.
right, so let me get this clear, because a country is peace loving it can not be the site for a fusion reactor ?
Another superb move by the US. What a bunch of idiots.
I wonder if they realise that every time they do stuff like this, the REST OF THE WORLD thinks that they look like spoiled little children who just threw their teddy out of the pram.
GROW UP - not everyone gets the same kick out of war that you obviously do.
The French just want the reactor to leap frog our french fry technology.
Tha way when the terrorists hit it or it melts down, the whole country is fucked.
fuck you. you baathist motherfucker
There is a huge difference between "peace loving" and "cowardly." "Peace loving" would be a moral stand and it is darn hard to claim a moral stand when you are selling someone war materials forbidden under UN treaties. The opposed the war to hide their own guilt, not out of some moral stand.
"All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power." - Ashleigh Brilliant
this seems like a really childish behaviour
Since the current leader has displayed all the qualities of a petulant child throwing his teddy out of his pram, on a number of occasions, your point is what exactly?
"She's furniture with a pulse"
I propose using thermonuclear warheads to build a fusion reaction in various parts of the middle east. I think it'd be perfect... lots of sand and tons of hostile people to get rid of.
It is childish behavior to make sure that technology that could easily be adapted to war be kept out of a country that harbors more support for terrorism than any other western nation on the planet?
You are going to have to explain that one to me......
"All I want is a warm bed and a kind word and unlimited power." - Ashleigh Brilliant
BTW, I think real estate around Chernobyl is pretty cheap, we could always put the reactor there....
Reading the related material Japan does seem the better choice, and its an opinion shared by russia and other non EU contributors to the project. This is especially true if you consider the fact the Japanese have been generating the cleanest high temperature plasmas for some time now.
Putting aside the merits of locating the project in Japan. I would love to know how not rewarding financially and ally that caused us considerable trouble is childish ?
If you think that France and Germany were operating on a purely moral plain, your'e missing the fact that they had the largest financial stakes in Saddams Iraq. Holding them accountable for their choices is just good sense.
Fuck you, you fucking fuck.
Why is that relevant? What are they going to do, recharge their battery powered Humvees?
No, they are going to have U.S. soldiers doing guard duty at the reactor. Duh. Just like we do guard duty in Serbia, Sinai, Israel, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, and all kinds of other places, including everywhere we have an embassy.
Who would you rather have guarding it? The French? Someone made a joke in another thread about two drunk Germans taking over the reactor...
"Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives" should be a convenience store, not a government agency.
Count me in. But rather than a PayPal account, I think you should setup a trust fund. After all, scum like you would just take off with the money and go buy all the porn you can jerk off to.
gee what gave you the opinion i was an american? I'm just stating the obvious. And yes, the french are ethnic assholes. I m not talking about french leaders. Have a problem with that?
The war with islam is a war on the beast
The war on terror is a war for peace
But basically, the UK has approved the building of three offshore wind farms that will each provide the same power as a nuclear reactor (Sizewell B was the one named in terms of power output).
Wind's as unlimited a resource as deuterium, right? And a hell of a sight easier to draw power from.
Now, normally I'm all for fusion plants and cool high-tech stuff, but this just seems like another international money-sink. The fact the US is objecting to it being in France rather than Japan suggests A: petty, childish vendettas over the fact that France *dared* to defy the US over Iraq, and must now pay the price, or B: massive pork-barrel funding for American interests in the Japanese fusion industry, or C: both.
I don't even *like* the French, but really, fuck Bush. The sooner the world is rid of him and all his energy industry cronies fucking everybody else over for a dollar, the better. This is a man who is one step away from literally standing on a ledge pissing over people and telling them it's raining... and they're believing him! What's next? "That's not a human turd you just watched me shit out onto a plate, it's prime Texan beef! Now eat it up, yum! 'Cause if you don't, you're supporting TERRORISTS!" Christ...
You must think in Russian.
Excuse me but what statistics have you read? The war was probably about a 50/50 split in the US. Where did this slim minority BS come from?
Yes the many other Islamic countries were against the war. Islam has taken over 100 countries in the world now. If they feel threatened by anyone dealing with another Islamic country, then that's life.
As far as France, Russia and Germany, yes they also didn't want the war. They were supplying Saddam and were owed billions. They still are. People forget that France was making the planes that Iraq used to gas its own people. That is why there was so much pressure against it. Those countries stood to lose money they were owed if the US invaded. You people are so easily swayed by propaganda instead of looking at facts that you really piss me off.
Fuck France
So the issue isn't who builds one first but by confusing the situation so no one builds one. When a country's foreign policy is based on supporting oil states, the last thing that can happen is some f*cking low-cost energy source tilting the balance of power.
France is thus NOT a good choice as it is part of Europe, has a stable political system and is very well suited to develope big projects.
Given Bush already has a two white elephants with Afganistan and Iraq - BTW: both which will be multi-year f*ckups which have NOT yet caught the instigator of 9/11. Bush and his poodle Blair are not going to allow the frogs the chance to divert the agenda away from oil.
Now exactly where did I leave those WMD ?
Because they are uninformed, uneducated, or simply prefer the wrong path due to overriding prejudices and fears.
Since stupidity makes you more susceptible to all of the above, and Conservatives benefit from a stupid populace, the best thing for Conservatives to do is gut the educational system.
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Are you saying that the Pakistanis may nuke India if the press goes all US-French abusive on them? Or, back in the day, the Soviets may have nuked the US because they didn't like the NYT?
The Indian press rips on the Pakistani government a good bit (especially Musharraf), but neither the press nor the people would abuse the ordinary Pakistani people the way you guys abuse the French. A Pakistani schoolchild on an exchange programme would be made very welcome. Pakistani cricket players are very popular in India (Wasim Akram has even informally coached some Indians). So are Pakistani musicians like Junoon. Vice versa, I believe Indian movies and music have a huge following in Pakistan, though their government frowns on it.
So I'm sorry, the attitude Americans have towards the US reflects something very deeply nasty -- about the Americans, not about the French.
Self deceit keeps the world running. Keep believing in your 'God', you will need it.
How small a thought it takes to fill a whole life
To a conservative, life in prison is "saving convicts". That's the kind of brain damage that they have. Completely upside-down priorities.
This is America, damnit. Speak Spanish!