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The Matrix Trailers, Reloaded and Re-Encoded
dark_lotus writes "The fine folks at The Matrix website, have re-encoded all 9 trailers from the original Matrix, bumped up the resolution and uploaded them for us to enjoy, including a never before released trailer. Also included, all the missing Reloaded and Revolutions Trailers and TV Spots - all now available to download."
Doesn't this lose a little meaning when not only have the movies come out, but 2/3 of them are on DVD?
--trb
Thank you for actually doing something nice for fans for once Hollywood.
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Have I missed something ?
I mean, what's the bloody point of creating a new trailer for a film that's long been released ?
Surely the point of a trailer is to advertise the film ?
What a complete waste of time. Of course, there will still be some sad geeks that just have to download it and go 'oooo' and 'wow !!', and 'look at that !' for reasons best known to them and their damp tissues.
they're in CYA mode trying to 'reload' any interest in their franchise while they try to cobble together the Revolutions dvd.
the interest in their films fell way off, and so they're trying to generate some positive press and keep the core fanbase interested.
This is anything but selfless. They still have a dvd to sell that, judging by the attendance, not so many people care to buy at the moment.
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No. Even when the superbowl trailer was released the site didn't even slow down. I downloaded the whole trailer at 200kb/s.
They're on the AOL pipes
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Because "TRAILER" means after the movie.
ohh how i wish this were true. then maybe when it says the movie starts at 5:30 i know i should actually try to get there on time. in my theater they started RotK 20 minutes late with more commercials and trailers then ever. actually let me restate that. the listed time was 5:30. previews/trailers/commercials all started at 5:50. if i wanted commercials i'd watch TV.
I did that last night to the actual movies, which are now availiable (sic) to download from a P2P client near you.
*Spoiler warning*
The second and third movies are shit.
Moderated -1, Troll?! Who was the humorless geek who moderated this down? It's funny, dammit... even the second bit.
More importantly, it seems every post in this thread that dares criticise the Matrix sequels is getting marked down, troll or not.
The third Matrix movie sucked (not the second IMHO)- you're entitled to disagree, but it's what a lot of people honestly think, like it or not.
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People will still buy your extended DVD if they want it all on one disc (not forgetting the high quality plastic Denethor figurine in the Collectors' Edition), but they won't be forced to pay $$$ for something they only want to see half an hour of.
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Technically, Neo didn't start the revolution from the outside... He didn't start any revolution. To most people in the film, he was just a guy with nifty powers, who didn't show up for the final act. Seeing as how he died before he could tell anyone what he was doing, they probably thought he was full of hot air. Maybe Morpheous' prophecy of the joining of humans and machines will convince people that Neo is responsible. Maybe not.
Personally, I wanted to watch the machines destroy the giant matrix server in order to get rid of Neo, with Neo flipping through subsystems trying to avoid the path of destruction. Of course, I also wanted the producers to ignore the whole flying at the end of the first movie thing, claiming metaphoric license, and I wanted the second movie to, you know, advance the plot.
I guess like the unofficial Star Wars prequels, a fan's work is never done.
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So it's kind of interesting.
As of late, there's been a resurgence in so-called "franchise" movies, where the funding for and expectation of a sequel is a foregone conclusion during the production process. Recently, we've seen three variants of this:
A) Lord Of The Rings, which filmed all three episodes in one monster shoot, then spent a year between each tweaking for maximum quality.
B) The Matrix Trilogy, which filmed the second and third episode in a less-monstrous shoot, and originally planned to unveil the conclusion a mere three months after the return. Tweaking was not originally planned for.
C) Harry Potter, which does not appear to begin production of the next chapter until the previous movie has finished its theatrical run.
Given these three case studies, it's worth noting that two of them (LOTR and HP) have their plotlines and characters fully fleshed out from day one, far in advance of movie production. Meanwhile, The Matrix sequels were written in response to the success of the original, meaning the third one got a screenplay before the second saw any public scrutiny.
I think this was the problem.
Unlike LOTR and HP, which had a healthy community of readers who could be tapped to determine which parts were most interesting and which parts could be sacrificed to the cutting room floor, the Wachowski's flew blind when concluding their series. They tried to show everything they could do, rather than explore the dimensions people were most interested in. When they realized their conclusion answered none of the new questions people couldn't help but ask -- they had no opportunity to recover their loss, save to push a worldwide release.
It's sad, too. Matrix Revolutions should have been a revolution inside the Matrix; the humans taking over their own virtual world, perhaps saving their own, perhaps abandoning it to the machines. Fundamentally, it should have been about the many within, not the grungy escapees. And so many interesting opportunities were abandoned...the spoon from the Matrix showing up in Zion, for instance. E
I don't know what happened. But I do know -- the serial format has brought some astonishing successes, and alot of money -- but when it fails, it seems to fail big.
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Besides, can you think of *any* film franchise that has gone beyond 3 without sucking a very large one?
James Bond. The 21st film is planned for release in 2005.
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2 and 3 were actually good stories told poorly. They were pretty deep and all the nonsense dialog actually DOES make sense once you see all three and spend some time thinking about it.
there are some quite brilliant concepts in there that are unfortunately told by the worst possible storytelling (in stark contrast to the first, where the storytelling was so excellent that everything is understood right away).
you have to really think about what is happening, have a little bit of grounding in physics/philosophy, AND keep in mind that there are no truly wasted scenes (yes, the train station scene was NOT wasted. think about what you learned in it.)
It's because it flopped. It was horrible, why would they spend money advertising something that failed so horribly.
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Yeah, if only I could have such a failure.
Reloaded
Revolutions
And let me stop you before you go nattering on about how it doesn't matter how much money it made, it was still a flopped and it sucked and I hated it and people that liked it are dumb. That's an opinion, and you're entitled to it. The movie was a financial success, if not a critical one, and my opinion has always been that critical review is flaky and insubstantial anyway. Critics hated the Wizard of Oz when it came out.
Kind of like
Bottom line, I liked it, a lot of people didn't which is understandable. I'll be buying the boxed set when it comes out and keeping 'GLMatrix' as my screensaver and sporting my "I took the red pill" shirt proudly.
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Well, I keep a few trailers on my computer at work. Just to play when I'm bored or going out of my mind because of work (did I just repeat myself there? ;).
My work computer doesn't have a DVD-ROM drive, and I don't have a portable player. Not to mention, I'd rather not carry my DVDs all over the place, lest they get damaged or stolen.
Yeah, it's not a huge deal, but, then again, we're talking about movie trailers, so none of this topic is really a big deal. :)
If all you have are silver bullets, everything looks like a werewolf.
We're looking for a cohesive plot, believable characters, and (on the geeky side) well-integrated special effects that don't distract us from the story, not an excuse for the movie-makers to bludgeon us over the heads with their cleverness.
I see in the Reloaded and Revolutions the same problems I see in Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones: A big idea, executed poorly.
In the first Matrix, parallels with mythical/historical figures were obvious. Neo was a Christ-like figure, Morpheus a prophet, and Cypher a Judas. But Neo was also a conflicted hacker, Morpheus had a personality containing something besides bombast, and Cypher was an interesting villain in his own right. In other words, the characters were certainly analogues for other characters, but they were also themselves. They had senses of humour, they could love and hate, they had weaknesses and strengths, and were, for lack of a better word, human.
Then came Reloaded, and all of that was lost. The parallels between the characters and figures went from subtle to painfully transparent, and the characters stopped being themselves. They were cardboard representations of the archetypes they were meant to represent.
What made the first Matrix so compelling was the human element, which was lost in the sequels. Instead, we got Link and his wife as sort of an afterthought, and they are utterly forgettable. We have the guy I can only think of as "Spoon-boy," whose dialogue was so painful to watch I almost asked for my money back. We have Morpheus going from desperate searcher to religious zealot, while the commander who doesn't believe him (the only person in Zion with an ounce of common sense) portrayed as a one-dimensional obstacle to truth and light and all that crap.
These movies were bad. I mean BAD. But the worst thing about them was that the story concept was still good.
My suspicion is that the Wachowski brothers suffer from the same problem George Lucas does now. No one will tell them "uhh, guys, this dialogue sucks!" Or better yet "why don't you guys stick to directing and coming up with plotline, and let other people do the writing." Or even "for the love of god, guys, let an editor have a crack at this tripe!"
...creating trailers. They have become masters of great-looking, action-packed 30 to 60-second spots for movies that are generally pretty poor.
You pretty much described the sequels we were all expecting, particularly after the phone conversation at the end of the first film.
We were all looking forward to an incredible sequel involving Neo freeing the people Matrix world as the Agents and whatever else tried desperately to stop him, and then the entire freed world tackling the machines in the third film and destroying their captors in ultimate victory. Neo was supposed to be the superhero to end all superheroes.
However, the sequels decided to obssess about the destruction of Zion and treat the Matrix and its people as just another environment and not the objective, like in the first film. Not only is this surprising and boring, but it completely removed the resonance the first movie had. We connected with the message of the first movie because we feel like we're in a controlled Matrix, and on some level, we question that reality. The Matrix inhabitants were us.
We don't feel like we're in a cave underground dancing in the mud as people tell us the machines are coming. I never gave a shit about Zion, not even in the first movie, in which it's just a plot point to explain the existence of rebels and why Morpheus is captured.
Along with that, they removed the machines as the main enemy and out of nowhere replaced it with Smith clones. Matrix Revolutions felt like it had no payoff.
Meanwhile, ROTK spends an extra 20 minutes making sure you felt like it was worth it sticking through all three long movies, and I adored all the resolutions it gave us. No deeper message about the flaws of humanity, no innumerable layers of philosophical and religious context to dig through to understand the story...just themes of courage and friendship and the pain of war, and the battle of good and evil. Matrix Revolutions feels so cold and dreary and hollow now.
It's so sad that various fan-fictions depicted better sequels than what we got.
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