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The Matrix Trailers, Reloaded and Re-Encoded
dark_lotus writes "The fine folks at The Matrix website, have re-encoded all 9 trailers from the original Matrix, bumped up the resolution and uploaded them for us to enjoy, including a never before released trailer. Also included, all the missing Reloaded and Revolutions Trailers and TV Spots - all now available to download."
I did that last night to the actual movies, which are now availiable (sic) to download from a P2P client near you.
*Spoiler warning*
The second and third movies are shit.
Doesn't this lose a little meaning when not only have the movies come out, but 2/3 of them are on DVD?
--trb
This site is about to be brought to its knees
Thank you for actually doing something nice for fans for once Hollywood.
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Why would you download all of the trailers, when you can simply purchase the movies, barring the latest? Is this a recent fad, hoarding "previews"?
Wow, that never released trailer is quite stylish. Wonder why it wasn't released? Well, I guess it does seem to give away a lot of the action. The final trailers for Revolutions pretty much gave away everything, though. So, meh.
Have I missed something ?
I mean, what's the bloody point of creating a new trailer for a film that's long been released ?
Surely the point of a trailer is to advertise the film ?
What a complete waste of time. Of course, there will still be some sad geeks that just have to download it and go 'oooo' and 'wow !!', and 'look at that !' for reasons best known to them and their damp tissues.
http://progressive.warnerbros.com/thematrix/us/med /matrix_tr_theatrical_640_dl.zip
Now if only those people would learn how to make a good movie!
............crap....why did my download just die?
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After watching the trailers for the original, having not seen the first movie for a couple of years now, it set me to thinking. Imagine how much cooler the final two movies would have been if Neo had started the revolution of the Matrix from the inside, instead of from the outside.
Converting people on the inside, gaining an army of followers battling the system.
considering the post shows the actual domain in [brackets.com], you'll see there is no goaste.cx or whatever the site is
they're in CYA mode trying to 'reload' any interest in their franchise while they try to cobble together the Revolutions dvd.
the interest in their films fell way off, and so they're trying to generate some positive press and keep the core fanbase interested.
This is anything but selfless. They still have a dvd to sell that, judging by the attendance, not so many people care to buy at the moment.
// "Can't clowns and pirates just -try- to get along?"
If anyone is able to grab them and start a Torrent, I'd be more than happy to join up..
You can get the entire plot of the movie with all the deep thoughts and ambiguity by watching the short trailers as opposed to sitting through the whole movie where everything gets ruined by the script.
And suckage is easier to deal with in small doses.
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People will still buy your extended DVD if they want it all on one disc (not forgetting the high quality plastic Denethor figurine in the Collectors' Edition), but they won't be forced to pay $$$ for something they only want to see half an hour of.
When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
Is everyone still asleep? For some reason I'm actually able to see the page and download the trailer at higher than 500 bytes per second. Something is wrong, very very wrong.
Try actually thinking for yourself. It's quite refreshing.
I swear, the slamming he gave it the day after Revolutions came out has to be one of the funniest daily shows lines this year. He kept harping on it for the rest of that week. Everytime me or my wife hear someone mention the matrix, we both end up looking at each other and saying "It Bloooooooowwws" for giggles.
-chris
Now, sure...you can free a whole bunch of people (which Neo did...Morpheus mentions in reloaded more people had been freed in the past 6 months then had been in the past 6 years). Then you could send them all into the matrix to fight...what? The rest of the humans still plugged in? The very people you're trying to save? Heck, you'd need way too many hovercrafts to get these people up to broadcast depth, all to do something Neo can do on his own. Inside the matrix, he rules. If he can't handle something, no amount of "normal" people can. The only thing Neo was incapable of handling on a pure fight was Smith, and Smith has shown his ability to copy himself even into people that have been freed from the matrix (ie, Bane).
But yeah...I know what you mean. It would be much cooler to have a whole bunch of really good fight scenes inside the matrix than the whole boring Zion fight. Then again, I know a whole bunch of other people who think the exact opposite, were really tired of the wire-fu, and really liked the Zion battle.
I could live either way. All I needed was an explanation of what the heck happened. In an all-fantasy story like Lord of the Rings, anything goes...it's fantasy. With the matrix, the first matrix set the boundaries--the reason Neo can do all those things is because he's inside a computer program, and he can change the program somehow. Then, with Revolutions they pulled the whole "the power of the one extends beyond this world" thing. Why? The power of the one was changing the code of the matrix, what other power does he have that allows him to do things outside the matrix? Really, I wouldn't care how they approached the revolution, I just wanted a coherent storyline.
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http://www.filerush.com/torrents/9_matrix_trailers .zip.torrent
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So it's kind of interesting.
As of late, there's been a resurgence in so-called "franchise" movies, where the funding for and expectation of a sequel is a foregone conclusion during the production process. Recently, we've seen three variants of this:
A) Lord Of The Rings, which filmed all three episodes in one monster shoot, then spent a year between each tweaking for maximum quality.
B) The Matrix Trilogy, which filmed the second and third episode in a less-monstrous shoot, and originally planned to unveil the conclusion a mere three months after the return. Tweaking was not originally planned for.
C) Harry Potter, which does not appear to begin production of the next chapter until the previous movie has finished its theatrical run.
Given these three case studies, it's worth noting that two of them (LOTR and HP) have their plotlines and characters fully fleshed out from day one, far in advance of movie production. Meanwhile, The Matrix sequels were written in response to the success of the original, meaning the third one got a screenplay before the second saw any public scrutiny.
I think this was the problem.
Unlike LOTR and HP, which had a healthy community of readers who could be tapped to determine which parts were most interesting and which parts could be sacrificed to the cutting room floor, the Wachowski's flew blind when concluding their series. They tried to show everything they could do, rather than explore the dimensions people were most interested in. When they realized their conclusion answered none of the new questions people couldn't help but ask -- they had no opportunity to recover their loss, save to push a worldwide release.
It's sad, too. Matrix Revolutions should have been a revolution inside the Matrix; the humans taking over their own virtual world, perhaps saving their own, perhaps abandoning it to the machines. Fundamentally, it should have been about the many within, not the grungy escapees. And so many interesting opportunities were abandoned...the spoon from the Matrix showing up in Zion, for instance. E
I don't know what happened. But I do know -- the serial format has brought some astonishing successes, and alot of money -- but when it fails, it seems to fail big.
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Besides, can you think of *any* film franchise that has gone beyond 3 without sucking a very large one? Please, no-one say Police Academy.
When I am king, you will be first against the wall.
Besides, can you think of *any* film franchise that has gone beyond 3 without sucking a very large one?
James Bond. The 21st film is planned for release in 2005.
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maybe i get you wrong, but if you knew the books you would know that one book=one year, so one movie a year (more or less) would exactly display the right ageing with the actors.
fx! kicking and screaming
It's because it flopped. It was horrible, why would they spend money advertising something that failed so horribly.
/., where we hate everything. :)
Yeah, if only I could have such a failure.
Reloaded
Revolutions
And let me stop you before you go nattering on about how it doesn't matter how much money it made, it was still a flopped and it sucked and I hated it and people that liked it are dumb. That's an opinion, and you're entitled to it. The movie was a financial success, if not a critical one, and my opinion has always been that critical review is flaky and insubstantial anyway. Critics hated the Wizard of Oz when it came out.
Kind of like
Bottom line, I liked it, a lot of people didn't which is understandable. I'll be buying the boxed set when it comes out and keeping 'GLMatrix' as my screensaver and sporting my "I took the red pill" shirt proudly.
El riesgo vive siempre!
Never before released? The Mirage Trailer was the ONLY trailer I saw for the original MAtrix and I have a copy of it in my movies folder, what are the Wachowski's smoking now.. sheesh.
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Did anyone else think, in the "missing trailer", when they showed the text 'In 1999 The Matrix Has You'
"Shouldn't that be 'In Soviet Russia'?"
Could not resist, sorry.
Alex
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We're looking for a cohesive plot, believable characters, and (on the geeky side) well-integrated special effects that don't distract us from the story, not an excuse for the movie-makers to bludgeon us over the heads with their cleverness.
I see in the Reloaded and Revolutions the same problems I see in Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones: A big idea, executed poorly.
In the first Matrix, parallels with mythical/historical figures were obvious. Neo was a Christ-like figure, Morpheus a prophet, and Cypher a Judas. But Neo was also a conflicted hacker, Morpheus had a personality containing something besides bombast, and Cypher was an interesting villain in his own right. In other words, the characters were certainly analogues for other characters, but they were also themselves. They had senses of humour, they could love and hate, they had weaknesses and strengths, and were, for lack of a better word, human.
Then came Reloaded, and all of that was lost. The parallels between the characters and figures went from subtle to painfully transparent, and the characters stopped being themselves. They were cardboard representations of the archetypes they were meant to represent.
What made the first Matrix so compelling was the human element, which was lost in the sequels. Instead, we got Link and his wife as sort of an afterthought, and they are utterly forgettable. We have the guy I can only think of as "Spoon-boy," whose dialogue was so painful to watch I almost asked for my money back. We have Morpheus going from desperate searcher to religious zealot, while the commander who doesn't believe him (the only person in Zion with an ounce of common sense) portrayed as a one-dimensional obstacle to truth and light and all that crap.
These movies were bad. I mean BAD. But the worst thing about them was that the story concept was still good.
My suspicion is that the Wachowski brothers suffer from the same problem George Lucas does now. No one will tell them "uhh, guys, this dialogue sucks!" Or better yet "why don't you guys stick to directing and coming up with plotline, and let other people do the writing." Or even "for the love of god, guys, let an editor have a crack at this tripe!"
Major Matrix 3 Spoiler alert: you have been warned.
what did we learn in the train station scene?
1. there is an outer computer world that is much like the matrix, where the machine programs live.
2. they combine to produce new mental "offspring," the mother and dad figures. they do NOT reproduce via cloning, like agent smith does. Societies of perfect (agent smith-like) clones can fail to a single infection/problem (see Ghost in the Shell for more on this, pretty sure the comics-crazy watchowski brothers did). that's why agent smith is a fundamental threat against the machines. Smith gains the ability to break the rules and ignore "kill" and "do not clone" signals, which is exactly what Neo learned in #1 in order to become The One.
3. there is a link between the outer world and the Matrix human playpen/pigsty that is tightly controlled but also subject to a black market (the frenchman likes his kicks, and sells them to others)
4. program offspring in the outer matrix must already have a reason to exist, otherwise they are terminated. the matrix is a bit of a legal backwater where unneeded programs can live and perhaps FIND a purpose ("what good is a newborn babe?")
5. misc. other: the "eyes of the oracle", why are the so important? the oracle is one of the two designers of the matrix. she knows the state of everything in it (omniscient in a way that is not possible in the real world due to heisenberg). She also has a deep understanding of humans, and can usually predict what they will do. this is the nature of her "fortune telling." it is not perfect, human choices sometimes are unpredictable (this is the fundamental flaw in the matrix according to the Architect). She also "cannot see past the choices we don't understand." If she doesn't understand a decision fully, she cannot predict it's outcome.
This plays back to the Frenchman's longwinded speech in 2: action-reaction. He believes that if you poke a human a certain way, you can predict the response. we have no free will, we are just deterministic biological computers (he demonstrates this with the chocolate cake.) so he seeks knowlege, and ultimately control via gaining the "eyes of the oracle," which must allow the owner to see all of the matrix from a "programmer with debugger tool" perspective.
however, the oracle knows that perfect knowlege of the world and it's history DOES NOT give one perfect prescience. whatever drives human free will (choice) is sometimes unpredictable. we are NOT deterministic creatures.
And for the final mega spoiler theory: smith and neo cannot kill each other at the end of #3. they both know it, they can both ignore kill signals. smith infects neo, then Neo *chooses to die*!!! smith cannot avoid this internal kill signal. all his clones fall prey to the same signal. they *all* die. smith even with the oracle's powers can not have known that trinity had died in the real world and that neo would choose follow her in death. so he could not forsee beyond that choice he did not understand. (if trinity were alive, neo probably would not have made that choice).
End of Class.
I'll agree that it's gone beyond 3 without sucking, but the last few really leave a lot to be desired.
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Neo: Woah.
Morpheus: But we've known that since the first movie.
Zion is being attacked. The next hour and a half consists of:
Shooting robots.
Shooting robots.
Shooting robots.
Shooting robots.
Shooting robots.
Shooting the wall.
Shooting robots.
Shooting robots.
"Accidental Friendly Fire." (The guy owed me a few bucks.)
Shooting robots.
Shooting bigger robots.
Neo: I know how to save Zion. I have to login to the kernal and see if he'll grant me root/admin privileges.
LOGIN: Neo
PASSWORD: trinitywaseasy
(Neo clicks Apple > Restart.)
The End!
Honestly I don't care about "High Resolution" trailers and other propoganda if the actual content is crap.
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...creating trailers. They have become masters of great-looking, action-packed 30 to 60-second spots for movies that are generally pretty poor.
I want to see them keep using the same actors. I want to see Hermione dealing with menopause ("Alanda heat flashus!"), Ron in rehab, and Harry struggling with 2 failed marriages and a soul crushing job as head school custodian.
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I can see it now, "The Asstrix - How deep does the butthole go?". Starring Ron Jeremy as Morpheus.
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You pretty much described the sequels we were all expecting, particularly after the phone conversation at the end of the first film.
We were all looking forward to an incredible sequel involving Neo freeing the people Matrix world as the Agents and whatever else tried desperately to stop him, and then the entire freed world tackling the machines in the third film and destroying their captors in ultimate victory. Neo was supposed to be the superhero to end all superheroes.
However, the sequels decided to obssess about the destruction of Zion and treat the Matrix and its people as just another environment and not the objective, like in the first film. Not only is this surprising and boring, but it completely removed the resonance the first movie had. We connected with the message of the first movie because we feel like we're in a controlled Matrix, and on some level, we question that reality. The Matrix inhabitants were us.
We don't feel like we're in a cave underground dancing in the mud as people tell us the machines are coming. I never gave a shit about Zion, not even in the first movie, in which it's just a plot point to explain the existence of rebels and why Morpheus is captured.
Along with that, they removed the machines as the main enemy and out of nowhere replaced it with Smith clones. Matrix Revolutions felt like it had no payoff.
Meanwhile, ROTK spends an extra 20 minutes making sure you felt like it was worth it sticking through all three long movies, and I adored all the resolutions it gave us. No deeper message about the flaws of humanity, no innumerable layers of philosophical and religious context to dig through to understand the story...just themes of courage and friendship and the pain of war, and the battle of good and evil. Matrix Revolutions feels so cold and dreary and hollow now.
It's so sad that various fan-fictions depicted better sequels than what we got.
"Sufferin' succotash."
Although I've got strong opinions of these movies -- I love them, and am happy for the temporary corporate insanity which allowed them to be produced -- I've not said much about them online. At the end of Revolutions, the Oracle is responding to Seraph's question, "Did you always know?" Spelling that question out fully, what Seraph is asking is did you know that Neo, rather than Smith, would end the war? The answer to that question is no. The Oracle made the choice to help Neo, but it was a choice she did not understand -- she couldn't see past it. She told Neo that "one way or another, this war is going to end," but she did not know which way. When the Architect tells the Oracle that "you've played a dangerous game," it is to acknowledge the fact that had her belief in Neo been misplaced, the Oracle's choice would have ended all sentient life on Earth.
I believe that Reloaded and Revolutions would probably work best shown back-to-back with a 15-minute intermission between. They tell a complex story involving a large cast of characters, all of whom are involved in a fight for survival and many of whom have to deal with one or more invalidations of their worldview, most significantly Morpheus and Neo. That this story is told in a hair over four hours screen time is amazing. Since there is no preexisting text to draw on (LoTR), and no novelization either (2001), the understanding of what it is you're seeing -- what's real and not real -- has to come from you "making up your own damn mind." I love that.
"You've played a dangerous game."
"Change always is."
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