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Despairing of Pixar

An anonymous reader writes "According to AnimWatch, Despair Inc :-( has released the short films of stop-motion animator Mark Osborne on DVD. They're available through Happy Product.com. MORE, the first stop action short film shot in IMAX format has been nominated for an Academy Award, won a Jury Prize at Sundance, appeared in a Kenna music video, and even appears in the Hotline documentation, but this looks like the first time it's ever been available on DVD. According to the filmmaker he hopes to fund future films by selling his old ones. This is the best short film I've ever seen, so all I can say is I'm glad it's finally getting a proper release. Isn't this how Pixar and Aardman got their starts?"

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  1. Direct Download by Captain+Goatse · · Score: 1, Informative

    Here's a Direct Download link, rightclick and choose save as, if you are using iexplore. Save linnk to disk if you are using Mozilla/Firebird.

  2. No - George Lucas by OpenYourEyes · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, Pixar was a spin-off from the computer graphics division at Lucasfilm. It was sold to Steve Jobs at that time in 1986. Disney wasn't involved until 1991 - well after Pixar had made a name for itself.

    Official Pixar History

    1. Re:No - George Lucas by Trurl's+Machine · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's even more complex - initially Pixar was supposed to be a computer making company. They tried to sell a sophisticated graphics workstation called Pixar Image Computer for a cool $135,000. Steve Jobs always was a hardware fetishist, but both his "main" project of that day - the NeXT Cube - and Pixar Image Computer were horrible market flops. Among the 120 employers of Pixar in late 1980's, only five were trying to make films; the others were trying to develop, manufacture and market the workstation that nobody wanted to buy. This policy has led Pixar to huge debt of a 50 megabuck magnitude. Only then came the Oscar and the Disney etc.

    2. Re:No - George Lucas by rekoil · · Score: 4, Informative

      There was software as well...the RenderMan suite is what they were best known for, and I they had a lightweight app called Typestry that I used extensively back when I was a graphic artist. Good stuff.

    3. Re:No - George Lucas by The+boojum · · Score: 2, Informative

      Originally, though, their Renderman implementation was supposed to be done in hardware. They initially prototyped it in C on general purpose hardware, and then when the special purpose hardware flopped they realized they were on to something with the software.

  3. Re:Not the first time MORE has been on DVD... by lcracker · · Score: 5, Informative

    Ok sorry, it wasn't volume 13 but volume 7. It's been on DVD since [at least] Feb 1, 2000 according to here.

  4. funding by Savatte · · Score: 5, Informative

    Getting funding for a short film is quite possibly more difficult than getting funding for a feature film. A full-length film at least has the possibility of being picked up and distributed to vast audiences, where as an investor's return on a short film is more likely to be nothing, since they are rarely exhibited. To convince someone to give you money so you can follow your dream or experiement is quite difficult. Stan Brakhage, the world-renowned avant-garde film maker had trouble finding funding for his short films, since he was so prolific (he made about 400 films in his lifetime). He then decided to take a different approach and began painting on the actual film, which took more time, and thus was able to make his funding last.

    For some other non-Pixar fascinating short films, check out:

    Duck Amuck - Chuck Jones
    Eye Myth - Stan Brakhage
    Rabbits - David Lynch
    The Heart Of The World - Guy Maddin
    The Superbowl Is Gay - Andy Milonakis (yes, I'm serious. This is one of the most purely comedic films ever made)

  5. Commercials by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Pixar initially worked on commercials before their movies. Not sure if these even predated the short films becuase they were initially geared to be like an advertising firm. Notable Pixar commercials include:

    Tropicana Orange Juice (with bouncy/dancing oranges)
    Listerine /w animated and Robin Hood Listerine bottle
    Gummy Life Savers that danced and such

    1. Re:Commercials by greenhide · · Score: 3, Informative

      Luxo Jr. was that animation involving a jumpy, excitable desklamp that now serves as the "i" in Pixar (You'll see it in the opening titles of any Pixar film).

      Of course, instead of just hearing people on Slashdot go on about Pixar's history, why not just get it straight from the horse's mouth?

      A nice, clear, and easy history of Pixar.

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  6. Aardman by lxt · · Score: 5, Informative

    Isn't this how Pixar and Aardman got their starts?" - I don't know about Pixar, but Aardman (based right down the road from me in Bristol) was originally two teenagers who got a commission from the BBC to produce a short kids ident (called the "aard man", hence the company name). From then on, the studio funded itself through producing advertisements and music videos (Peter Gabriel's Sledgehammer for example), and put the revenue it recieved into producing quality shorts - it was this money that funded Nick Park's "A Grand Day Out". "Chicken Run" is an exception to the advertisement funding rule, as it's part of a five film deal with Dreamworks.

  7. MORE about as good as animation gets. by kid+zeus · · Score: 2, Informative

    I got this on the Utopia collection of independent shorts a few years back, and all I have to say is that it's simply one of the finest pieces of animation ever done. And watching it on in a small, low-res QT window is not the best way to check out the amazing texture brought about by it's Wide Format (aka IMAX) filming. This guy is fantastic, and I hope he gets some great funding because I can't wait to see what he does next.

  8. Forgotten studio? Not quite. by MsGeek · · Score: 4, Informative

    Titan A.E. was done by Fox Animation at their defunct Arizona studio. They located their studio in Arizona to avoid paying animators union wages. The head of Fox Animation was Don Bluth. Titan A.E. basically bankrupted Fox Animation.

    Fox recently bought Blue Sky Studios in upstate New York, the creators of the short "Bunny" and the feature "Ice Age." They are now working on "Robots" for early 1995 release.

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    1. Re:Forgotten studio? Not quite. by May+Kasahara · · Score: 2, Informative
      An American Tail, for one. Not to mention The Land Before Time, The Secret of NIMH, and the Dragon's Lair game.

      Just dig back 15-20 years or so and you'll come upon the good stuff.

  9. Re:Yahoo pulled short? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    No torrent, but I'll put up a mirror for you.

  10. Re:Pixar will be around by PunchMonkey · · Score: 3, Informative

    Not sure how common knowledge this is, but one neat trivia piece about "A Bugs Life" DVD is that the widescreen and 4:3 versions of the movies are actually rerenders. Not pan and scan.

    Screenshots showing the difference available here (Scoll almost to the bottom)

    Link

    This site also has some pretty good examples of the different aspect ratios, etc.

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  11. No, it's not quite how they got their starts. by tinrobot · · Score: 3, Informative

    Pixar started life as a spin off of ILM, with Jobs as a major investor. He hoped to make money off of rendering technology and the shorts were mostly done as promotion. Little did he know there was more money in feature films than Renderman software.

    Aardman got it's start in the 70's by two animators who loved clay. They sold a show called Morph to the BBC and that made the studio. Nick Park came a decade later. The first Wallace and Gromit was a student film he couldn't finish on his own. Aardman provided the resources for Nick to finish it and the rest is history.

    That said, there are a number of OTHER animators who have made decent careers by using one film to finance the next. Bill Plympton comes to mind, as does Don Hertzfeldt.

    Mark Osborne's films are similarly great, I wish him lots of luck.