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Xbox Gets Military Tactical Planning Software

Thanks to The Baltimore Sun for their article discussing possible military applications of videogame technology, specifically referencing the Trex visualization tool from joint government training and videogame developer, BreakAway. According to the article: "In about a year, if all goes according to plans, soldiers flying to an overseas mission will play Trex on the Microsoft video-game system Xbox to familiarize themselves with actual streets, buildings and terrain before setting foot on foreign soil." The piece reveals that Trex "...will use satellite data to digitally replicate 3-D images of cities such as Kabul, Mogadishu or Baghdad", and the website explains that the software can be "...used to create tactical simulations for en route training." A different army tactical training simulator developed by Pandemic Studios, Full Spectrum Warrior, was highly acclaimed as a videogame at this year's E3 trade show in Los Angeles.

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  1. Please... by hookedup · · Score: 1

    Please tell me these maps will be available to us normal folk. Sure would be a dissapointement if there's yet another 3d replica of giant cities we couldnt shoot at each other in :)

    1. Re:Please... by presearch · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Don't worry.
      The way things are going, you'll soon get your chance to do it for real, in a city near you.

      We'll be fighting in the streets, with our children at our feet,
      and the morals that they worship will be gone.


    2. Re:Please... by sammaffei · · Score: 1

      Amen. Somebody had to say it.

      And, damn if Liberty City (GTA3) doesn't look my town Philadelphia.

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      Political correctness is the newest form of slavery.

    3. Re:Please... by 3dLuke · · Score: 1

      hello......it's an xbox, not exactly the most secure mini pc in the world, i'm sure we'll be fraggin' on these maps in minutes thank god for hackers and p2p :)

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      world's biggest red bull drinker
    4. Re:Please... by Squidgee · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Who the f*ck gave him an insightful?!

    5. Re:Please... by Denver_80203 · · Score: 1

      I dunno... don't you think that would give the 'bad guys' the same advantage we're gaining? In theory they know the place better than we do in the first place but, when the bad guys are moving 'troops' around I could see the U.S. wanting to keep any advantage to themselves. All the same, I imagine copies of the game would pop up on Hong Kong streets in a week (or a week before release).

    6. Re:Please... by bugbread · · Score: 1

      Bob.

    7. Re:Please... by Wolfrider · · Score: 1

      "What About Bob?"
      :b

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  2. For the Civilian bosses of the Soldiers may I reco by leoaugust · · Score: 1

    soldiers flying to an overseas mission will play Trex on the Microsoft video-game system Xbox to familiarize themselves with actual streets, buildings and terrain before setting foot on foreign soil.

    For the Civilian bosses of the soldiers may I recommend Civilization, Alpha Centauri, SimIraq, and other "God Game" titles .....

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  3. well heck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    if our troops can know the streets of mogadishu after a week like i know the streets of vice city - they'll be a hell of a lot better off i'm sure.

    i really don't know how to consider this as anything other than a 'good thing'.
    more knowledge + better visualization = less accidents = less senseless death.

    if it takes an xbox to pull it off, more power to it.

    1. Re:well heck by chrismcdirty · · Score: 1

      Very good point. I estimate that in about two weeks, I'll be able to find my way around Los Angeles with the help from True Crime.

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      It's like sex, except I'm having it!
    2. Re:well heck by DrDoombender · · Score: 1

      I can see our soldiers working with/killing different iraqi factions, having sex with prostitutes in humvees, and raqueteering for personal gain already.

      Operation Grandtheft Auto:Agrobhad City

    3. Re:well heck by anthony_philipp · · Score: 1

      Remember: The old adage "fight fire with fire" does not apply to non-metaphorical fires.
      dont firefighters do controlled burning to stop uncontrollable forest fires?

  4. Re:For the Civilian bosses of the Soldiers may I r by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What is SimIraq? Do you take over the role of the coalition in trying to rebuild Iraq with the ultimate objective to hand over to an entirely Iraqi government? Or do you take the role of an iraqi government that has just been given control of it's country? Or do you just replay the war, naturally on the coalition side? If so that is quite bad taste really considering you are playing war when our countrymen are dying (im British). 20 soldiers killed in suicide attack and my public opinion at home went down 20%! Doh! Tasteless!

  5. Seems an odd choice, unless MS pays by iainl · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Unless this is some Microsoft-funded promo stunt, why would they use the XBox? I'm aware that a standard unit makes a convenient smallish and cheap PC, but the difficulty of publishing titles to non-dev boxes in a hurry would be a larger issue than the extra money it would take for a Shuttle-cased PC, surely? I can't see why they wouldn't just do this on a PC, rather than a closed-down console, particularly if they used joypad to USB converters to make the interface simpler.

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    1. Re:Seems an odd choice, unless MS pays by *weasel · · Score: 1, Interesting

      i've got a brother who works on a naval cruiser, and he says pretty much it's the box of preference for the guys. there's at least one in each of the lounges.

      besides, i'd think it'd have to do with the good tools and good performance with very little console-specific coding.

      you gotta have an experienced ps2 developer to pull out the graphics a dime-a-dozen pc developer can do on the xbox.

      and the xbox is a sealed unit. it isn't going to be a security risk, it isn't going to be a maintenance draw, it isn't going to be as expensive ($200+tv $400 + monitor).

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    2. Re:Seems an odd choice, unless MS pays by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      its because of the tv. its alot easier hooking up a console to a tv, which is readily available everywhere. just like the full spectrum warrior game which was developed on xbox for use by squad leaders. all you need is an xbox a controller and the game disc. no need to bring a monitor, as tv's around the world are readily available, and all have a common connection.

    3. Re:Seems an odd choice, unless MS pays by AvantLegion · · Score: 1

      Why use the Xbox? 1. It's ready out-of-the-box, easily acquired anywhere. Not so with Shuttle cased PCs. 2. You drop the software in the drive, turn it on, and it starts. Not so with Shuttle cased PCs, without some tinkering. 3. It's more powerful than the other consoles. Not necessarily more powerful than the PC, but it's a hell of a lot simpler logistically. 4. It's easily developed for. It uses DirectX just like any Windows-based PC.

  6. M$ by 3dLuke · · Score: 0

    i wonder how much money M$ are making out of this....... and i hopw the public get..fraggin' in kabul would rock!

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  7. Hmm.. by xankar · · Score: 1

    I hope this gets released to the public.

    Irony of ironies that a microsoft system could help people take over the world.

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    1. Re:Hmm.. by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      There's no new technology here. In fact if it runs on Xbox it's probably old stuff. All you have to do to have the same thing (essentially) on your PC is to come up with some maps for your favorite games, based on actual real-world geometry.

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  8. NTSC video seems inadequate for this by jackbird · · Score: 1

    OK, I can see the cost savings of using off-the-shelf standardized hardware for this, but isn't the display resolution of NTSC video just too low for something like this?

    I mean, think about how detailed the map of your average metropolitan area traffic report looks like on the TV news. Here in New York, it's completely unreadable, and that's only with the most major roads.

    How much readable TYPE can you even fit on a TV? Not enough for this application.

    Even a relatively high-res mapquest map pales next to a printed one, but that's the price you pay for interactivity, I guess. But 640x480? Or does the software drive an HDTV in 1080p mode, which sort of kills the off-the-shelf/cost savings argument.

    1. Re:NTSC video seems inadequate for this by jackbird · · Score: 1

      1080i + double the frame rate at half res, no? I thought that was only for applications where smooth motion was the most important visual feature (i.e. sports broadcasts).

      My point is that the cost savings of using a xbox vs. a is entirely negated by needing an HDTV to view the thing rather than a PC monitor, so the whole concept seems flawed from a cost perspective.

    2. Re:NTSC video seems inadequate for this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      have you ever played an xbox game? obviusly not. try rainbowsix 3 or ghost recon. both have full city environments, which easily give an adequate representation of a city enviroment, for use by troops going into the field.

  9. It's homogenous by gearheadsmp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why not? Like all game consoles it's homogenous. That way you don't have to deal with the hardware failures, bug fixes, and licensing issues. You should be asking why they aren't using a PS2 or Gamecube, but that's their decision, isn't it?

    1. Re:It's homogenous by will_die · · Score: 1

      The reason it is using the Xbox is because the xbox got a major plug in that on various US military bases, in places like Europe and the middle east, they are setting up game rooms with Xboxes where you can play against local players and other people on other bases.
      They charge a few dollars an hour, and have a decent collection of games, all designed for multi-player and network player. Also the rooms have nice seating and setup, with a so-so decore.
      As for why the xbox was picked instead of the PS2 this was a big question when they started this, and it game down to the xbox has a better network setup with more games. Since they were setting up theses systems for network and multi-player and the xbox had the best capabilities and the most number of games that supported that.

  10. Is there anything... by BladesP9 · · Score: 1

    that Microsoft can do right? I mean, I dislike windows as much as the next guy, but if the Army wants to use the Xbox to produce their simulations then it must be because they feel it's the best way to train soldiers to the environment. I'm for anything that involves our troops landing on the ground in such a way that they can lay the smackdown on a bunch of terrorist thugs without taking casualties. And if that involves Microsoft, then good for them, good for us, and awesome for everyone.

    1. Re:Is there anything... by iainl · · Score: 1

      Don't get me wrong, if its useful then its a good idea; I just got the impression that this was designed for a quick-to-battlefield solution. In which case, getting your code signed and copy-protected (unless they are using chipped XBoxes, which I can't find Microsoft being keen on) is a step in the way that using a normal PC (running Windows if it keeps Gates happy) wouldn't have.

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    2. Re:Is there anything... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In which case, getting your code signed and copy-protected (unless they are using chipped XBoxes, which I can't find Microsoft being keen on) is a step in the way that using a normal PC (running Windows if it keeps Gates happy) wouldn't have.

      Well this is just speculation but I suspect some geeks (no such geeks) at some agency (no such agency) have used a quantum computer (no such quantum computer) in order to find the key (no such key) to sign the code (no such code) for the X-box.

      This comment (no such comment) will self-destruct in five seconds.

  11. Next ad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's good to tear up the streets of Baghdad together?

  12. 1080i is very possible for Trex by gearheadsmp · · Score: 1

    I'm sure they're trying to get the Xbox to output in both 720p and 1080i for this app. I think it will fare better at said HDTV resolutions when compared to titles like Enter the Matrix, while the Trex app doesn't look any more difficult to render than Simcity 3000. I think the biggest problem with running the Xbox at 720p and 1080i is that is was released in 2001, and HDTV-quality output wasn't a big issue as it it today.

    720p = 1280x720 progressive scan
    1080i = 1920x1080 interlaced

  13. :Insert Console Wars reference here: by GaimeGuy · · Score: 1

    Oh yeah?! X-box can render full cities?! Well the GameCube has the ability to render an entire planet!!! So hah! Ok, that sucked.

  14. Well, duh. by CSZeus · · Score: 2, Funny
  15. And if it ever breaks by dq5+studios · · Score: 2, Funny

    And if the XBox ever breaks it can be used as an impromptu club or shield thus further aiding our forces!

    1. Re:And if it ever breaks by iainl · · Score: 1

      Aaah, but they want to put the thing on planes. They'll be lucky to get off the ground!

      XBox size and weight jokes - not getting old, are they?

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    2. Re:And if it ever breaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remember the bullet-proof Xbox?

      http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/12/0 3/ 0649221&mode=thread&tid=127&tid=186&tid=21 1

      Suddenly it all becomes clear....

  16. Easier still by Eevee · · Score: 1

    The NGA could just approach Microsoft to get a key to sign their own materials.

  17. Terrorists by Osmosis_Garett · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one who thinks this is a dangerous idea? If anything, video games should be moving away from reality, not closer to it. I would never advocate censorship, but where is the line to be drawn? Perhaps when you can freely download floorplans to any major bank?

    1. Re:Terrorists by jnguy · · Score: 1

      Someone would have to create it first.