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Depenguinator "Upgrades" Linux to BSD
cperciva writes "Many systems around the world have been possessed by penguins and dead rats. It would be nice to exorcize these evil spirits, but this can be difficult without physical access to the machines in question.
Thanks to a new depenguinator, it is now possible to upgrade Linux systems to run FreeBSD 5.x without requiring anything more than an SSH connection." Clever idea.
And again I miss fp by a matter of seconds...likc the teenage male who tends to pre ejaculate I stand here wondering...why me?
I want to stick my pee pee in your poo poo hole
1) type in reboot at the $ prompt
2) Insert Windows XP installer disk
3) Find out that the CDR with Windows XP on it has been "upgraded" to Knopppix
4) Run QtParted on knoppix to remove BSD from it
5) Click the Install to Hard drive option on the K menu.
6) Log out
7) Reboot into the power of the Penguin.
8) ???
9) Post BSD is dying troll and slashdot!
< MooKore, because only SWINES like trollkore use BSD >
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It is official; Netcraft confirms: linux is dying
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yadda, yadda, yadda...
You know the rest of the troll
Thank you. Fig Newton?
-1, Obvious
That's anti-shark SPRAY numnuts
I really think Slashdot should remove the BSD section of the site. All there is 90% trolls and 9% people comlaining about the trolls, with hardly any insightful comments. Sure BSD has its niche, but it is effectivley irrelevent to 99.9% of readers who don't use it.
BSDs base of supporters have moved on to non trolled sites. Removing the BSD section would be a boon for slashdot, and a bore for trolls. So, do you think Slashdot should remove this section, because agreeing with the trolls, it is almost "dead" on this site, so let it live in its niche.
Is trolling now officially endorsed by Slashdot? Why the hell does everyone have to evangelize their system of choice as if it was necesary for the survival of mankind? If you think BSD is 1000x better than Linux, or Linux is 1000x better than Windows, or DOS is 1000x than OS/2, ok. It's your good right to have that opinion, and use what you will. But can't you leave other people alone? Do you people REALLY have to try and "educate" us about what's the only real OS to use in your book? Has it ever occured to you that we might not give a hoot about that? That we're happy with our OS? That we made a concious choice when we picked our OS of choice?
Besides, what's the point of this conflict between Linux and BSD users... most programs run on both plattforms anyway, also a lot of users don't have a real choice because of driver issues. And what's up with this whole holier than thou attitude? It's been fun for a while, but eventually it gets very very annoying. It's annoying enough to have to fight off religious windows users and ignore the tux fetishists in our own ranks, but THIS is the pinnacle of unnecessity!!
This whole article is just -1, TROLL
Sorry for the rant, but this is getting WAY too stupid for my taste.
If a train station is a place where a train stops, what's a workstation?
Flamebait?
Oh moderation points, where are you when I need you?
haha fire fire fire!
I only used FreeBSD for a while, I liked it. I might try it again someday.
But now, back to W2K and commandos 3.
Plain old sweet text.
Thare ar nov nead too pik on peaple hoo have probleams speling!
Yeah, both of them. Unfortunately the applause would be drowned out by the stupid weenies like yourself who use every opportunity, no matter how strained, to bitch about Slashdot.
I can't agree that Slashdot has these "double standards" you dolts keep complaining about when your own comments available on Slashdot and moderated highly are attacking the double standards. It's self-defeating. It's like saying "this statement is false". By writing your comment you have disproven there is a double standard. Slashdot gave you EQUAL AIR TIME with the Microsoft-bashers and the Linux-cheerleaders.
The most excruciating bit is that comments like yours are repeated, over and over again, in every article even remotely related to Linux, and you still get moderated +5 Mother-Fucking Insightful every freaking time. Hint to moderators: it's not insightful the 10,000th time.
damn i can't spell this morning
it MADE a nice crash
Your nose is running and your feet are smelling.
[ed. note: in the following text, former FreeBSD developer Mike Smith gives his reasons for abandoning FreeBSD]
When I stood for election to the FreeBSD core team nearly two years ago, many of you will recall that it was after a long series of debates during which I maintained that too much organisation, too many rules and too much formality would be a bad thing for the project.
Today, as I read the latest discussions on the future of the FreeBSD project, I see the same problem; a few new faces and many of the old going over the same tired arguments and suggesting variations on the same worthless schemes. Frankly I'm sick of it.
FreeBSD used to be fun. It used to be about doing things the right way. It used to be something that you could sink your teeth into when the mundane chores of programming for a living got you down. It was something cool and exciting; a way to spend your spare time on an endeavour you loved that was at the same time wholesome and worthwhile.
It's not anymore. It's about bylaws and committees and reports and milestones, telling others what to do and doing what you're told. It's about who can rant the longest or shout the loudest or mislead the most people into a bloc in order to legitimise doing what they think is best. Individuals notwithstanding, the project as a whole has lost track of where it's going, and has instead become obsessed with process and mechanics.
So I'm leaving core. I don't want to feel like I should be "doing something" about a project that has lost interest in having something done for it. I don't have the energy to fight what has clearly become a losing battle; I have a life to live and a job to keep, and I won't achieve any of the goals I personally consider worthwhile if I remain obligated to care for the project.
Discussion
I'm sure that I've offended some people already; I'm sure that by the time I'm done here, I'll have offended more. If you feel a need to play to the crowd in your replies rather than make a sincere effort to address the problems I'm discussing here, please do us the courtesy of playing your politics openly.
From a technical perspective, the project faces a set of challenges that significantly outstrips our ability to deliver. Some of the resources that we need to address these challenges are tied up in the fruitless metadiscussions that have raged since we made the mistake of electing officers. Others have left in disgust, or been driven out by the culture of abuse and distraction that has grown up since then. More may well remain available to recruitment, but while the project is busy infighting our chances for successful outreach are sorely diminished.
There's no simple solution to this. For the project to move forward, one or the other of the warring philosophies must win out; either the project returns to its laid-back roots and gets on with the work, or it transforms into a super-organised engineering project and executes a brilliant plan to deliver what, ultimately, we all know we want.
Whatever path is chosen, whatever balance is struck, the choosing and the striking are the important parts. The current indecision and endless conflict are incompatible with any sort of progress.
Trying to dissect the above is far beyond the scope of any parting shot, no matter how distended. All I can really ask of you all is to let go of the minutiae for a moment and take a look at the big picture. What is the ultimate goal here? How can we get there with as little overhead as possible? How would you like to be treated by your fellow travellers?
Shouts
To the Slashdot "BSD is dying" crowd - big deal. Death is part of the cycle; take a look at your soft, pallid bodies and consider that right this very moment, parts of you are dying. See? It's not so bad.
To the bulk of the FreeBSD committerbase and the developer community at large - keep your eyes on the real goals. I
God, if slashdot is no different from the choice vs. life crowd, I'm outta here. Nothing to be gained from hanging around with a bunch of tunnel vision zealots.
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered *BSD community when recently IDC confirmed that *BSD accounts for less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dead
Just to get a bit more off topic here. People who believe that abortion *is* murder may be tunnel-visioned (as you put it). But keep in mind that anyone who tries to convince them otherwise is effectively trying to justify murder to them.
Many people get upset when you tell them 'murder is okay'.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"
- Charles Darwin
Sure, we all know that *BSD is a failure, but why? Why did *BSD fail? Once you get past the fact that *BSD is fragmented between a myriad of incompatible kernels, there is the historical record of failure and of failed operating systems. *BSD experienced moderate success about 15 years ago in academic circles. Since then it has been in steady decline. We all know *BSD keeps losing market share but why? Is it the problematic personalities of many of the key players? Or is it larger than their troubled personas?
The record is clear on one thing: no operating system has ever come back from the grave. Efforts to resuscitate *BSD are one step away from spiritualists wishing to communicate with the dead. As the situation grows more desperate for the adherents of this doomed OS, the sorrow takes hold. An unremitting gloom hangs like a death shroud over a once hopeful *BSD community. The hope is gone; a mournful nostalgia has settled in. Now is the end time for *BSD.
1. load the driver from the supplied cd (where is that damn thing)
2. reboot
3. recover from blue screen of death
4. reboot in 'safe mode' (thanks MS, for protecting me from evil!)
5. Remove outdated, incompatable driver
6. Spend six hours reading forums and newsgroups about other users experience with how the device failed for them, and what they did.
7. Hunt down an obscure driver that is not intended for use with your device, but will give you some functionality without conflicting with your other drivers.
8. Download and install driver from a less than reputable source
9. Watch a worm run rampant through your system
10. Finally learn your lesson and install Linux or buy a Mac
Just as irrigation is the lifeblood of the Southwest, lifeblood is the soup of cannibals. -- Jack Handy
Congratulations. Not much on Slashdot impresses me anymore.
"I have a good idea why it's hard to verify programs. They're usually wrong." --Manuel Blum, FOCS 94
Ah.... well so long, then.
If you keep reading, god gave moses a whole book of do's and don'ts which boil down to "if soome-one does this, stone them. if someone does that, stone them". The adultery and homosexuality laws spring immediately to mind, but that is only the _tip_ of the iceberg.
Oh, by the way, that's not even taking into consideration the "cleansing" of Palestine^W Canaan.
That was stupid, inflamatory, and irrelevant to anyone who knows anything about what is really going on with the various BSD derivatives the first time you said it. Are you a genuine troll, a troll larva, or a very clever shell script created by some Linux fanboy? I'm guessing shell script
I am very easy to get along with, but I don't have time to waste being nice to people who are being stupid. -Theo