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VoIP Advances And Trends For 2004

gardel writes "So everyone's top-tech predictions for 2004 says it will be the year of VoIP. What does that really mean? This may narrow it down. Here's Voxilla's list of the top-10 advances and trends in the world of VoIP. On the list: VoIP and cellular converges, IP phones take over, Chinese and Mexican phone numbers come to the U.S., Asterisk hits it big. What would you add?"

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  1. VoIP's short term future. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Troll

    With or without VoIP regulation, a global P2P (PSTN-connected) voice network emerge..

    How? The article talks about Asterix-to-asterix networks bypassing telcos totally. Also VoIP providers routing IP only to each other to end call termination costs.

    I beleve that the Larger Asterix networks and VoIP providers will enter into call peering agreements just like the early internet.

    It start out as hobbyists setting up Asterisk Open Source PBX boxes connected to their home POTS line.

    Will some form of ENUM allow least cost routing to boxes sitting in basements and garages around the world?

    If an ITSP in Europe can setup an Asterisk box with PSTN access and start offering US phone numbers and vice-versa, will global number plans become obsolete? What effect will the ridiculously low barrier to entry for VoIP have on telecommunications?

    2004 Will be interesting indeed.

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  2. Monopoly by sparklingfruit · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just because VoIP involves voice, that does NOT mean it's the same as telephone service. The monopolistic nature of telephone service (only one company can realistically have lines in a given area, particularly in the "last mile") makes heavy regulation and regulatory fees necessary. VoIP does not suffer from this physical limitation to competition, and thus any number of VoIP providers can exist in any area. This is yet another blatant attempt of government to cash in on an emerging technology.

    1. Re:Monopoly by cgranade · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not exactly. Consider that VoIP requires, by nessesity, an IP network such as the Internet. Currently, this IP network exists in most homes by one of several methods: dial-up, cable or DSL. In two of those three cases, it is the POTS provider (telco) that enables VoIP, and in the third, it's a cable provider. In all of these cases, the IP provider has a natural monopoly. Thus, while the VoIP service itself may not be a natural monopoly, the prerequisites generally are.

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    2. Re:Monopoly by frisket · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I hate to pour cold water on the ideas, but forecasts of VoIP taking over in 2004 are spectacularly off-target.

      Why? Local IP access for too many Internet users is still limited by 56Kb/s dialup, which is too slow for reliable, comprehensible voice exchange. Providers emerging from the rat's nest of former state telco monopolies have been unable to introduce anything remotely resembling a widespread DSL service at a sensible cost (remember ISDN? :-)

      Perhaps in city areas in the USA we will see VoIP start to make it, but for the real world it's simply a myth (but I would adore to be proved wrong!)

  3. Not just IP... by swordboy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Intel is currently working furiously on a cellular chip that will seamlessly roam to WiFi networks. They also want it to carry prodigous amounts of data. Known as the Digital Briefcase specification, any compliant PC will automagically recognize the phone and allow you to log into the PC as if it were your own. Mail, favorites, documents/music and even wallpaper and settings will appear seamlessly. Check out my sig for more...

    POTS will die a quick death unless the big TelCos start lobbying for taxes. Slashdotters move these companies up on the list of Evil entities.

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    1. Re:Not just IP... by Mage+Powers · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't really know too much about VoIP, but what happens when the power goes out? Like I've only had 4 power outages in the last 10 or so years, but still, what if it happens? I know one advantage POTS has is that it usually works... Having VoIP for voice calls overseas is great, but what if the POTS system is gone, power is out, and people can't call for help?

      Course my telco has never really caused me grief so I'm not biased against them.

    2. Re:Not just IP... by thedillybar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Has anyone come up with software for PDAs that will allow you to roam WiFis and use VoIP?

      Or at least work in progress? It seems someone could develop software before Intel could develop (and market) a chip specifically for this purpose.

  4. Voxilla = gardel by HardcoreGamer · · Score: 4, Informative

    gardel: at least have the courtesy to admit that Voxilla IS YOUR SITE.

    Check gardel's previous posts if you don't believe me.

    If you're going to self-promote, be up front about it.

    1. Re:Voxilla = gardel by gardel · · Score: 3, Informative

      I did not place this here anonymously and used my email address at voxilla.com. I'm not entirely ceertain how else to be up front about it.

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    2. Re:Voxilla = gardel by JPriest · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I though it was one of the more informative things I have seen posted to slashdot in a while. He makes no attempt to hide that it is his site.

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    3. Re:Voxilla = gardel by Feztaa · · Score: 4, Informative

      I did not place this here anonymously and used my email address at voxilla.com. I'm not entirely ceertain how else to be up front about it.

      Just looking at the post, I have no idea who you are or that you're associated with Voxilla in any way.

      Typically it's good manners to end your submission with "(disclaimer, I run Voxilla)" or something similar. Ever noticed how Slashdot editors write similar statements when they post stories about Newsforge, or ThinkGeek, or those other OSDN pages?

    4. Re:Voxilla = gardel by gardel · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Thanks for the advice. And, in the future, I will do just that. But I do feel the need to point out that, in the story submission form, there is a field for "your home page", where I did enter voxilla.com. I made no effort to cloak my association with Voxilla. In the past, I have communicated with slashdot editors who know exactly what my role with the site is.

      It's really an honor to have slashdotters read the content we put together on Voxilla. We work hard on the site and think there is useful material there that can't be found elsewhere. And so we have, a few times, pointed out a story we felt may be of particular interest to slashdot. At no time did we do so anonymously and, all of my posts here, make my association with Voxilla known.

      If anyone was offended, I sincerely apologize and assure you that there was no intentional action taken to mislead anyone.

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  5. Asterisk by seanadams.com · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I am currently setting up an asterisk PBX with polycom ip phones and VOIP for outgoing calls. It is incredible software. I have no doubt that in the next year or two, it will become one of the most important open source projects, right up there with Linux and Apache.

    The software does have a steep learning curve (not worse that any other telco system though). Be prepared to spend a few weeks just getting a basic system with a couple of phones to go. However, once you get it up and going, it is very easy (and cheap!) to expand.

    Asterisk will totally replace the current PBX and key systems, and it will also play a key role in destroying the traditional overpriced channelized telco services.

    1. Re:Asterisk by muonzoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Yes, BUT; Asterisk has some growing up to do. It isn't a standards BASED system. Sure, it implements standards, but the SIP support was ad-hoc and an afterthought. I'm not trying to take away from the amazing accomplishments on this project, however before it storms the masses, it's going to have to speak SIP at the expected interoperable level that we all expact from Apache and HTTP. Imagine if you could only view Apache pages in Mozilla, or, that images wouldn't work in IE, only Mozilla. These are real problems. Once Asterisk has that level of interoperability with OTHER IP based voice systems, it will be posed to really clean up. Exciting indeed, but some time will have to pass first.

    2. Re:Asterisk by el_flynn · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I totally agree with you. I've also just finished an * install and waiting for the client to review it. The deployment is for an IVR system, with a possible future enhancement of accessing corporate data and relaying info like the caller's account information etc. Which speaks volume about the product because it's basically a PBX system.


      Most of my experience with * is via trial-and-error, reading the newsgroup postings, posing questions for help etc a-la the normal open source way of doing things, and it should be noted that the article says "Zealous fans of the terrific open source PBX-plus software develop easy-to-follow installation and configuration menus". There exists some documentation on the web, with war stories and sample configuration. But, as noted in the Asterisk mailing list, the docs can be somewhat sparse and technically oriented, especially for users just wanting to "try it out".


      I basically think the article about Asterisk should be read as "Zealous fans... need to develop easy-to-follow installation and configuration menus, and Asterisk takes off big-time". This, to me, is a key point in making Asterisk viable to the masses. People (the users anyway) tend to expect a PBX system to be something of a "plug-and-play" type of thing, but without concrete documentation, helpfiles etc it would be hard for the n00b installer to get things working in a short amount of time.

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    3. Re:Asterisk by DarthBart · · Score: 3, Informative

      Having been an Asterisk developer for several years now, I tend to agree with the ad-hoc support of standard protocols (SIP and the ongoing battle between chan_h323 and chan_oh323). However, these days you don't see any more incompatibilities between * and other equipment than you would between, say, a Multitech MVP410 and a Cisco 7960 SIP phone. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. The advantage is that you can sniff the SIP/H323 session, figure out which end isn't following standards and adapt * to work with what you've got.

  6. Phone numbers are for sissies by BritGeek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've never personally understood this mania that the POTS folks have for dragging all of the old telephone system baggage into VOIP. Why on earth should we perpetuate the same old nonsense of "area codes" & "country codes"? (They are completely artificial & capricious anyway.) What's wrong with dialing someone by their IP address, that's what I want to know?

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    1. Re:Phone numbers are for sissies by Squareball · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why IP and not by e-mail address? Think about it, e-mail is a way for some one to contact you through text, well why not just say that e-mail is a way to contact you which ever way you wish. Why not have everything done to your e-mail address?

      Then if you have a cell phone and a home phone why not have it setup like cell.myaddress@host.com? Dialing by IP would be too much to remember. I can hardly remember a regular phone number now! But I know just about every one's e-mail address by heart because it's just english and not a string of numbers.

    2. Re:Phone numbers are for sissies by synergy3000 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Dial by IP? Lets see which IP will you dial me by today since I get on the internet through a DSL service provider who periodically switches my IP address. Fixed IP you say? Well certainly the IPv4 will run out then. You going to remember an IPv6 address? For all your friends? Maybe we don't need phone numbers, but dialing by IP is not very well thought out either.

    3. Re:Phone numbers are for sissies by lucifuge31337 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Why IP and not by e-mail address?

      Ring. Ring.
      Me:
      Hello?
      SIP call:Stop wasting money! Enjoy holiday savings on Marlboros and more, with free shipping!
      click
      Ring. Ring.
      Me:
      Hello?
      SIP call: Get the AMAZING penis patch!
      click
      Ring. Ring.
      Me:
      Hello?
      SIP call: Having consulted with my colleagues and based on the information gathered from the Nigerian Chambers Of Commerce And Industry, I have the privilege to request for your assistance to transfer the sum...
      click
      Me:
      rip 7960 out of ethernet port, toss out window.

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  7. VoIP is plusgood! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hooray - now phones can have the same coverage and reliability as broadband Internet. What a leap forward.

  8. privacy by tuxette · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Do these "foolish laws and regulations" include privacy laws and regulations?

    EPIC's VoIP letter to the FCC

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  9. Re:The technology is there, but by cullenfluffyjennings · · Score: 2, Informative

    I agree there are some issues for the VoIP folks to figure out here but for comparisons sake ....

    the first question you get asked when you phone 911 on a traditional land line is "where are you?" This is because the traditional location information is wrong a surprising amount of the time.

  10. Troll--stealing posts. by Davak · · Score: 4, Informative

    ROTFL... but I am honored.

    If you are going to steal one of my previous posts, please remove my name from the post before you hit submit.

    This guy is using a database of highly ranked posts to boost his karma.

    Davak

  11. who cares about privacy by segment · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Will VoIP be Wiretap Ready?

    "according to FCC filings, FBI officials had a more private meeting with half-a-dozen FCC staffers to reiterated the Bureau's view on the matter: VoIP should be regulated-- at least enough to ensure that the FBI can listen-in."

  12. What does this mean? by cfuse · · Score: 4, Funny
    So everyone's top-tech predictions for 2004 says it will be the year of VoIP. What does that really mean?

    Instead of "your call is important to us" you get a 404 error.

  13. Reason why we should go over to IPv6? by sokk · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Another reason why we should go over to the IPv6 standard as soon as it's mature. If everyone wants VoIP we have to get more IPs.

    The hack called NAT can probably be hacked even more to do this, but it would've been a lot easier if we used the almost infinite pool of IPs accessible through IPv6.

    A new domain should also arise dedicated to naming of IPs. Easier with name + city, instead of those nice long IPs? :)

    I'm not very familiar with VoIP, so correct me if I'm wrong.

    1. Re:Reason why we should go over to IPv6? by sokk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm sure it works, but it's still a hack on a hack. Thinking like this ("it works, why fix it") will surely cause problems in the future. It will be a real mess, or rather a bunch of hacks rather then a clean implementation. I hope I don't get to be here when we hit the roof :) NAT (ups and downs): - Too much configuration needed. + Security (we _know_ that some OSes really aren't ready for being 'naked' on the world wild web (Yes, I know it's wide) - in the sense of not having a firewall.)

  14. Still Slashdotted by aclarke · · Score: 2, Funny
    I can totally understand links in the average article getting slashdotted, but dude you linked to an article on your own site and STILL couldn't keep the site up? Harsh.

    I'll bet if you posted on /. that you're looking for a competent system administrator, you'd find one.

  15. IAXprovider.net by Graabein · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Shameless plug:

    IAXprovider.net is the site for people who want to network their Asterisk systems (IAX is the protocol Asterisk uses to talk to other Asterisk instances) with other Asterisk users.

    The site is intended as a hub for Asterisk users to meet up, network and take over the world of telephony.

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  16. VoIP, the decade's most overhyped innovation by isdnip · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The problem with VoIP is that it isn't half as good as people think it is -- there are certainly good niche applications, and ways to use it profitably, but it simply isn't the be-all and end-all. Why do people fawn over it so much? I think it's largely because "IP" has that "k3w1" quality of the Internet in general, while phones are passe -- hardly a good way to make rational decisions.

    This paper is pretty useful:
    http://klamath.stanford.edu/~nickm/papers /HotNets0 2-IP_conquest_of_the_world_with_authors.pdf

    In the meantime, VoIP grows because some countries allow it to be used for a sort of regulatory arbitrage. It popped up before the rules covered it, or they didn't know how to deal with it, so it got special favored treatment. That's not the same as saying it is "unregulated"! In the USA, long distance is almost unregulated, but the local telephone monoplies are regulated -- they have a stake in how much they can charge for VoIP calls that use their networks the same way other long distance calls do. Expect an interesting year at the FCC while this is debated.

    I do not expect computer-to-computer VoIP to be regulated (in the USA) at all; it's simply not anyone's but the users' to deal with. But of course some cable or DSL providers might try to block it, in order to sell their own phone services -- that'll be interesting to watch.

  17. Where can I get a VoIP phone? by pcmanjon · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Where can I get a VoIP phone service (and a cheap yet good deal for a VoIP phone)? Can't find information on how to get VoIP in your home anywhere. I want to do this cause as I understand it, you aren't charged for long distance because (of course) your conversation is being transmitted over the internet. This means I'll have the luxury of calling anywhere in the US (and possibly the world) without a long distance fee.)

  18. Call quality and reliability is the killer by rmonday · · Score: 2, Informative
    VOIP is OK if you really, really need to save money, but often it's more important to be able to reach somebody immediately on a line where you can actually understand each other, all of the time.

    It's a similar problem with the deep discount long distance carriers in the US and elsewhere. Usable if you don't expect it to work all the time, and if you don't mind delays, echos and so on, but even for personal calls it's often better to pay the extra for a proper carrier, just to save the wasted time from having to repeat things and call back.

    So, there's a market for VOIP at the cheap end of the market, and it's hurting the really low-cost carriers already, but there will remain a much bigger market for phone service that just works, all the time, has proper capacity engineering, and has a high quality connection.

    1. Re:Call quality and reliability is the killer by Comen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Again people dont confuss VOIP with being over the internet all the time, it is simply "Voice over IP", IP does not equal Internet.
      Most the time people assume they are talking about some shitty software and mic hooked to thier computer. Others might only think of VOIP as being in the last mile, liek a new VOIP PBX they just installed at work that lets them do some really cool shit.
      VOIP can be all that and allot more, but what this is talking about it telco's racing to replace all their internal voice equipment with newer IP switchs that will save allot of time and money.
      Also once telco's do that, Yes the goverment will want a good way to listen is on those converstations at the telco's CO, jsut liek they do now. The telephone companies will have to have a way to give they access to each phone call etc..

  19. If only everyone had static IP addresses. by Animats · · Score: 2, Insightful
    If everyone had static IP addresses, deploying voice over IP would be straightforward. You'd buy a box, plug it in, and start telling people your number. No "service", other than a network connection, required. There would be directories, and DNS, but they'd be optional.

    NAT prevents this straightforward implementation, which must make telcos very happy.

  20. The future of voip by Aens · · Score: 3, Interesting

    As someone who works in this industry, I thought I'd share some of the future of telecomm for those who aren't 'in the know'. All communication lines going to any endpoint (home, business, sensors, etc) are quickly moving to an IP based data network. Unfortunately, there are two problems that governments and current telephone companies face:
    1) Roughly 50% of their voice revenue stream comes from per minute connection charges, other carrier access charges, & regulation charges (govn't). These will evaporate when subscribers move to data driven VoIP (ie: you pay a flat fee for DSL or cable modem bandwidth now, and it can run all your voice calls to anywhere in the world). Eventually the PSTN connection part will no longer be necessary, so Vonage will disappear as we know it today, but it has finally woken up the telcos to what the future will bring.
    2) Pretty much the other half of their revenue stream comes from the 'premium' voice feature services (call waiting, text messaging, etc), all of which are quickly moving from the class 5 switch into the phones themselves (aka: free).

    What do you do when your primary revenue stream evaporates? Fight it in the courts or with govn't officials. Remember, govn'ts have been taking a nice chunk of that revenue for themselves as well.

    We will have to move to a bandwidth & quality of service (QoS) based payment style. A minimum bandwidth is given for a flat rate (which will include -all- voice), and extra bandwidth will be provided on demand at an agreed QoS. The higher the bandwidth & QoS, the higher the fee.

    Things to watch out for: VoIP everywhere, SIP phones/services, VoWLAN, current voice carriers moving their infrastructure to their IP networks, and govn't regulations dictating that comm lines (called data services & unregulated) become regulated for QoS.

    The companies that move to this model last will not survive. They aren't going to like this. :-)

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  21. Legislate or be legislated by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 2

    VoIP is different from WWW, P2P, and the other Internet services you mentioned: when it replaces a landline, it is an *essential service*. However, as it is delivered in a much more open, competitive environment from POTS of the Bell era, it is also different from the tarrifed landline service. Some of the regulations that protected the "natural monopoly" of landline corporations, like the Bells, and protected us from them, don't apply. But some do. We will need a good public discussion of what minimum regulations are necessary, to protect consumers' privacy, freedom of choice, and quality of the essential service. We also need consensus on how to protect entrepreneurs from the crushing competition of the incumbent carriers, including cable and other WAN service providers. Especially in the absence of anyone resembling a visionary in Washington, we at the bleeding edge of VoIP experimentation must formulate policies that protect our communities as we switch to this powerful 3rd Millennium platform. Or some clown politician in some corporation's pocket will ruin it all for us, once the money becomes irresistable.

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