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For Champagne Bubbles, Smaller Is Better

Roland Piquepaille writes "During this holiday season you don't need a special occasion to drink champagne. You can do it everyday, providing you use moderation and common sense. But did you know that champagne taste better when it has tiny bubbles? This is the result of a very serious study published by the American Chemical Society (ACS) and more recently found by the Discovery Channel. And why do you think champagne taste better when carrying smaller bubbles? The answer is pretty obvious. More bubbles are releasing the champagne's flavor and aroma into your mouth. This summary gives you more details. In the mean time, let's all drink champagne!"

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  1. Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's only Champagne if it's bottled in Champagne, France. Otherwise, it's sparkling wine.

    1. Re:Actually... by EpsCylonB · · Score: 3, Informative

      Which is why europeans love to laugh at stupid americans who refer to it as "French Champagne".

    2. Re:Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      It's only a PC if it's built by IBM. Otherwise it's a IBM PC-Compatible Personal Computer.

    3. Re:Actually... by davidc · · Score: 4, Informative

      There's "sparkling wine" which may be white wine which has been carbonated, or fermented in a large vessel - large bubbles, generally is not very nice. Then there's "Methode Champenoise" where the wine gets a secondary fermentation in the bottle just like Champagne does. This stuff is much better, smaller bubbles and rivals the "Champagne" Champagne, at a lower price :-)

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    4. Re:Actually... by Nachtfalke · · Score: 3, Informative

      *Putting on my pedant hat*

      Actually, it's "Bologna", and that's in Italy, not Germany.

    5. Re:Actually... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
      Says who? The French who live in Champagne, France?

      Exactly. The French have a law for what they call appellation d'origine controlee. It basically says that Champagne can only be called Champagne if it's made in Champagne, Brie in Brie and Tripoux d'Auvergne (you don't even wanna know what that is) in, you guessed it, Auvergne.

      Of course, these laws don't mean anything outside of France (or perhaps they do now in the EU, but I don't know about that).

    6. Re:Actually... by cmowire · · Score: 4, Informative

      The synonym for Methode Champenoise is "Naturally fermented in this bottle". Methode Champenoise is the only way you can make "Champagne" Champagne.

      The other sparkling wines are "Naturally fermented/carbonated in a bottle" or "Bottle fermented", which means that a large vessel and generally means large bubbles or suffer various other indignities to the way that God intended it to be made, as given to the good Dom. And then there's just plain old carbonated, like soda.

      The thing is, to do the Methode Champenoise takes extra time, care, and money, so only people who are serious about making good stuff bother to do it -- although if the Methode Champenoise becomes a snob point, I'm sure the cheap houses will make some wretched Methode Champenoise sparklers themselves.

      But I've never seen an Methode Champenoise wine that didn't, at the very least, have lots of tiny bubbles.

    7. Re:Actually... by phayes · · Score: 5, Informative

      Due to a French court decision a few years back, it is now illegal (in europe & other countries that respect "l'Appelation d'Origine Controlle" or AOC that you see on most european wines) for wines grown outside of the region of champagne that use the secondary fermentation process to say so on the bottle. According to the Champagne winegrowers association the mere mention of the use of "methode champenoise" even if it is in small print on the back lable was enough to confuse the public into thinking that it came from Champagne (& was thus protected by the AOC).

      This happened around the time Rambus was trying to litigate the rest of the world into submission instead of producing a better product & letting the market decide. Draw your own conclusions, but this was when I stopped buying champagne.

      Another thing that turned me off champagne is that 90% of the champagne that is produced is what is called a "Vin d'Assemblage" or fabricated wine. Most wines are the product of a single year & region. This is why you can see both the origin (AOC again) & the year on the bottle. However, this is not usually the case for champagnes. Just before the wine is ready for the secondary fermentation it is tasted. To eliminate the differences in taste from year to year, wine fom different years (& often sugar) is added so that the champagne will have a predictable taste.

      So, unless it is an exceptional year, wine from champagne does not have a date on the bottle. As they are fabricated wines, they age badly & must be dunken young.

      Champagnes that DO have a date (Called Milesime in french) ARE exceptional. Unforunately they also sport a price tag to match. You can leave these bottles in a wine cellar & they get better & better -- to a point as really old champagnes loose their C02.

      There are a lot of really excellent sparkling wines out there that are cheaper than most champagnes. My personal favorite is the Vouvray Petillant from the Loire valley region in France. These are not fabricated wines, so some years are better than others, but in 1990 I put a case of 12 bottles away to be opened on new years eve 2001. There were other "champagnes" served that night, including some very expensive bottles but none was as fine as the Vouvrays & the case of 12 was cheaper than a single bottle of the good "Real Champagne".

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    8. Re:Actually... by kfg · · Score: 2, Informative

      In the true sense you'd be correct. In the legal sense you are not. The people of Champagne did not do a good job of protecting their trademark internationally, therefore if I go into a local store looking for real Champagne I have to specify such. My locale (upstate NY) is one of the world's major producers of "Champagne," each bottle clearly labeled "Champagne" in big, bold letters.

      Which is why any Frenchman laughing at the cultural idiocy of an American could be legitimately laughed right back at for their own.

      The good people along the Charente, however, taking an object lesson from their countrymen in Champagne, took the proper steps to secure their trademark legally. Thus when I go into a store in NY and ask for Cognac what I get actually comes from the Cognac Delimited Zone. Everything else is brandy.

      Anyone who wishes to laugh at stupid Americans for asking for "French Cognac" will get no retort from me. French Brandy, however, is perfectly legitimate.

      KFG

  2. champagne bubbles by tuxette · · Score: 4, Informative

    They get you drunk faster.

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  3. Re:Its spelt Shampain! by Kirk+Troll · · Score: 3, Informative

    Probably because it's a proper name, not just a word?

    Wine = a word.

    Champagne = a proper name. (i.e. "California roll")

  4. Another link by AndroidCat · · Score: 2, Informative

    Scientists say champagne taste is all in the bubbles Ah hell, here's a whole pile of Google links Cheers!

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  5. Re:If only by fastidious+edward · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you buy from a good wine shop they should know. Not only do small bubbles enhance the tastes, they result in a creamy (rather than fizzy) texture which is most welcomed by the back of my throat as well as the taste buds, the stomach and the mind.

    If you want fizzy wine to be 'a bit different' to get drunk on choose any cheap plonk (Cava fits the bill well and is also tasty), if you want a decent champagne you can get this for ~USD35 at a specialist wine shop or specialist (staffed by those who are passionate about wince, rather than in-between semesters or on remand) wine section of a shopping mall. Non-champagne sparkling wines are also improving in quality (And sometimes are excellent), but don't expect anything too cheap, if it is cheap it'll get you drunk but won't be the amazing experience good champagne can be.

    Don't follow the big names either. For example Bollinger only starts getting good well past USD70/bottle, a lower priced bottle can be just as good at much less cost.

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  6. Number of bubbles? Well, kinda... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Yeah, the greater number of bubbles, the better. But that's really because of the increased surface area. If you have smaller bubbles, you're going to end up with more area per unit volume, which will allow for greater diffusion of flavor components, etc. (rate of diffusion is, of course, related to surface area)

    Incidentally, I didn't read the article at all. Maybe it focused on this aspect... Just thought I'd add my uninformed (?) pennies...

  7. Chamagne goes with everything -- red wine doesn't by GuyMannDude · · Score: 4, Informative

    And these days, Champagne is for people who want to look exclusive and upper class, when truth be told, actually they're tosspots ;) Red wine or real ale anyday...

    I'm not sure if you're trolling or what but here goes. Champagne is somewhat unique in that it is a fantastic accompanyment to almost any type of food. It goes well with appetizers, the main course, or dessert. You can have it with dinner, at a party, or even for breakfast. There really isn't any other kind of wine that is as versitile as champagne. You mention red wine in your post. There are great reds, to be sure, but if you are going to be eating a delicate whitefish, you would probably not want to be serving a Cabernet Sauvignon with that since the wine will easily overpower the food. In fact just the other day I caught From Russia With Love and Bond realizes that the chap who is dining with him is not an agent but is an assassin instead because he's inexperienced enough to order a red Chianti with fish. That pairing just doesn't go very well. You want to select a beverage that will enhance and compliment the food, not overpower it.

    Champagne is well suited for this purpose because of the bubbles. The 'fizz', if you want to call it that, help cleanse the palatte between mouthfuls so that you can get the full taste sensation from the 20th bite as you did with the 1st. You can also achieve this effect by using a toothbrush during a meal and cleansing your tongue that way (try it when you're alone some time!) but that looks rather silly. I'm not at all surprised that smaller bubbles are better (in fact, I thought that was common knowledge) because smaller bubbles means you can get more contact surface area (more bubbles) on the tongue and that should increase the cleansing effect.

    Of course, there are different types of champagne (differing levels of sweetness) but for the most part you really can't go wrong with champagne. It goes with everything. Something that most certainly cannot be said of red wine or ale.

    GMD

  8. Re:Let's all drink champagne ? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1, Informative
    Beer comes in crates. Wine comes in cases. I ordered a case of one of my favourite champagnes for my new year party, and it still hasn't got here. I'm beginning to think they thought I meant the Chinese new year...

    As an aside; why, exactly, is this news? It's been common (if specialist) knowledge for over a hundred years that small bubbles implies good champagne (although this is not universal, it's a fairly good indicator).

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  9. Re:beer by MooKore+2004 · · Score: 3, Informative
  10. Nitpicking... by igrp · · Score: 2, Informative
    Well, since the US never signed or ratified the Treaty of Versailles that's not entirely true.

    Some countries, e.g. Germany, still have laws prohibiting the use of the term champagne (same thing applies to "cognac", cf. Article 275 of the Treaty of Versailles).

    Nowadays, that's hardly more than a weird relict though - think about it: it's not really Kleenex unless its made by Kimberly-Clark. If it's generic it's a just facial tissue product. Same thing...

  11. Re:Well said by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

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  12. Re:Chamagne goes with everything -- red wine doesn by jpc · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually its not because it is white and sparkling, its more because it is acidic and not overtly fruity that it goes with many foods. A dry Riesling will also go with any food that Champagne goes with, as will some other wines. Some red wines do go well with fish but you have to pick carefully. And ales go well with food but again you have to pick and choose a bit. Though something like Adnams goes with a lot of different foods too.

  13. Re:While you're enjoying the bubbles and the aroma by Beryllium+Sphere(tm) · · Score: 4, Informative

    Things like methanol (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd =Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=3588516&dopt=Abstrac t) and fusel oil (a heavier alchohol) are supposed to aggravate hangovers. They're toxic. Of course so is ethanol, but the effects may be different.

    Methanol, by the way, becomes toxic when metabolized by alcohol dehydrogenase. A perfectly valid first aid measure for methanol ingestion is to feed the victim vodka. The ethanol keeps the enzyme busy until the methanol can be excreted unchanged. This *may* be why "hair of the dog" helps, though it could jus be general numbing.

    Hangovers seem to be a blend of several problems including dehydration.

  14. Re:Well, I respect other views, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
    "French" toast was invented by a Mr. French of Albany NY.
    I seriously doubt that an american invented roasting a piece of bread over fire.

    That's plain toast. French toast is dipped in egg and fried and was first called French's Toast.

  15. Re:Well, I respect other views, but... by kaisyain · · Score: 2, Informative

    You are wrong in your comparison of Verdun to the US Civil War. Of course it is comparing apples to oranges (and I generally agree with you re: historical ignorance). But the facts are:

    (According to the official French war history)
    French casualties at Verdun: ~340,000
    French fatalities at Verdun: ~165,000

    US casualties during Civil War: ~1,147,000
    US fatalities during Civil War: ~670,000

    Estimates vary widely for both Verdun losses and Civil War losses but even the highest estimates for French losses at Verdun come nowhere close to US losses during the Civil War. Of course, that tends to happen during civil wars when deaths on both sides get added to your total.

    But like I said, it is comparing apples to oranges.

  16. Hangovers... by Cyno01 · · Score: 3, Informative

    An EMT friend of mine (not a doctor, but still) informed me that a hangover is caused mostly by dehydration, as you mentioned, and vitamin deficiency. Alcohol dehydrates you and with that also saps out all the water soluble vitamins. He said a surefire cure for a hangover is 2 ibuprofin, like 5 multivitamins and at least 2 summerfest cups(su of mesurment for milwaukee) of water. Its worked for me pretty well, got pretty trashed wed night, took vitamins before bed and felt pretty good in the morning (well, i didn't get up till late afternoon). Also as you mentioned, impurities are also a factor, cheap liquor is a guaranteed hangover. Spring a couple of extra bucks for Kettle 1 instead of some cheap vodka and your head will thank you in the morning.

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