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FVWM Developers Announce New Logo
taviso writes "In celebration of 'multiple virtual desktop window manager for the X Window system' FVWM's tenth birthday last year, the developers announced a contest to design a new logo for the project. The votes are in, and the winner has been announced. For some time the meaning of the "f" was lost, and 'feline' was one of many suggestions in the FAQ. The original meaning is described in a history of FVWM. FVWM is a remarkable piece of software - if you havnt seen some of the things you can do with it check out some of these screenshots."
Well FWIW, I've used a number of window managers in my relatively long UNIX history. I still remember TWM and MOTIF, and I had a WM-less desktop when it was all the rage at MIT. I've used pretty much all versions of GNOME and KDE, though neither for very long. I have used blackbox and its derivates, openbox, pekwm, pwm, vtwm, metacity, an obscure scheme based wm whose name I don't remember, alloywm, aewm(++), kwin, window maker, afterstep, evilwm, and a host of others whose name escapes me because they weren't worth remembering.
I tell you, nothing compares to the power of FVWM.
It lets you define multiple workspaces, all of which can have several virtual desktops where you can freely scroll around. Workspaces and desktops are created dinamically as you request them and deleted when you no longer need them, it is completely configurable to a point where you can open a console and talk directly to the window manager, changing the settings and interacting with the WM on-the-fly. It allows any focus model you could possibly imagine, it lets you load modules likes pagers, launchbars, and so on.
And that is only the beginning.
So basically, there are window managers (like.. fluxbox, which is impossibly popular among the crowd who only tried the KDE WM and fluxbox and decided fluxbox is the best thing that ever existed), and there are Window Managers.
The logo is cute, but is the feline theme good? It gives the impression of an aristocratic, fat, and unresponsive yet highly demanding WM.
I might switch from blackbox for a while and try out fvwm. Hopefully its easy to make it look nice like those screenshots. I hate it when you see nice screenshots only to later realize its nearly impossible to make a wm look like that.
I just designed some new logos for Gnome and KDE. I used a Giraffe for Gnome (Gnu was already in use), and a Kangaroo for KDE. I'm not sure if they will hold logo contests, but I'm ready for it!
I thought it was cool how no-one really knows what the F stood for anymore, and to make it stand for "Feline" just because some of the developers have cats? That's just daft.
If you can't get hold of whoever came up with the original name to ask them what it was you shouldn't make it up in their absence. They created and named the project and you should respect that.
By the way, FVWM's a good and very configurable wm. However, as a result of being so configurable it's codebase has to support loads of options and is big as a result. Personally I prefer the smaller window managers such as aewm and it's derivatives.
Troll. Last time I checked, he was 56 and alive.
And how long does KDE take to launch on a 5 year old computer?
*Sigh* Moron.
Ne'ermind that KDE can't do all the stuff "old" FVWM can.
No matter how much they pretty it up, FVWM still looks like a cheap NeXT ripoff, just like Afterstep. Did I mention you'll have to sort through
eighteen
fucking
million
four hundred thousand
deeply nested directories, then sort through endless man pages looking for the obscure reference for some new feature that can only be implimented with the newest CVS build that you don't have?
This is a vintage /. troll, who hasn't put in an appearance in a while.
i doubt it. i think most users of unix-like operating systems prefer choice; in fact, that's why they're out there coding window managers while you sit in your briefs in your parents' basement whining on slashdot about how too much choice confuses you. why should everybody be forced to do things YOUR way?
you want "one functional flawless window manager?" write one.
you want simple? go back to Windows, you snot-nosed little cock-gobbler.
"A search for Window Managers on fresh meat brings over 400! yes, 400 window managers."
Ahh, but they're definitely not all window managers, they're just projects where the author has added them to the window manager category because it's (sometimes vaguely) related in someway and some people think that the more categories they list their project in the more hits they'll get.
"What is wrong with the standard K window manager on KDE? What is wrong with the Standard Sawfish Window manager with Gnome! This is the problem. The X11 designers should of FORCED an intergrated Window manager, like Windows and Mac OS did."
Open source is all about choice. Question: What would happen if (somehow) there was only one open source window manger for Linux? Answer: Everyone would fork it and change it to meet their requirements, and we would end up with a myriad of different wms, just as we have now.
People are different, and their working environments should be too. What next? - should we all use the same office suite so that the "average user" (whatever that means) doesn't get confused when he switches between them.
I use Ion, you fucking cocksucker.
That was a while a go. Back in 94 The F stoof for Feeble.
...FVWM's been around for far longer than either KDE or GNOME.
... of an Onion headline from a couple of years ago:
"New corporate logo changes everything"
That's ok, Jesus likes me anyway.
If you have to ask, you wouldn't understand the answer anyway.
You can whine about "choice", but Id rather have one fucntional flawless Window manager than 400 buggy ones that do things differently.
Fine. Let's all standardise on FVWM, then. Because I've yet to see another windows manager that's either as fully featured or as bug free. The various modern window managers don't meet my definition of "functional". They're all too restrictive in one way or another. None of them give me to flexibility that FVWM offers. The price of that is a non-trivial configuration language. That's a price I'm happy to pay. I also accept that not everyone is, which is why I wouldn't recommend FVWM to the average user. Which is why alternatives exist...
"The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike." -- Delos B. McKown
I've been working with fvwm for a while, and enjoy fixing up .fvwm2rc's for my machines. Here is a page of mine with several for you to try, and here is a link to the one that I am using now, with SuSE Linux, to make this post. As you can see, I love working with FVWM.
Your opinion is shared by pretty much noone.
I recognize that fvwm is a hugely powerful and highly configurable window manager.
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However, I would like to mention sawfish (running along side a gnome-panel, if you like) because it too operates on roughly the same level of flexibility and programability.
For details of some of the advanced things you can do, please see this link http://world-net.net/home/mangeng/faster_hacker/s