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8th Grader Suspended for Using 'net send' Command

HRH King Lerxst writes: "The Fort Worth Star-Telegram has an article detailing how a middle school student was suspended for three days for 'hacking.' His hack? Sending a popup message to the other computers in the school...from within the shcool." The 8th grader in question used the "net send" command to send a single word message ("Hey!") to the 80 machines tied to his school's network. How this can be construed as "hacking", I leave up to you.

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  1. Keelhaul him by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    If it's OK for this little bastard to do this, then it is OK for the big firms to do this and also send spam and virii and junkfax.

  2. Article short on details by Ophidian+P.+Jones · · Score: 3, Funny

    Most schools have a usage policy to which all students must agree before using computer resources. The article doesn't state whether use of the "net send" command is permitted or not.

    I know it's not hacking, but it can be seen (incorrectly, of course) as a subversive activity by paranoid faculty. Imagine if the student were Arab-American, and was sending "Hey!" in Middle East-speak. All hell might break loose.

  3. am i the only one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    who always sets the IE start page to goatse everytime i use a public/school computer?

  4. Back when I was in school.... by jmlyle · · Score: 2, Funny


    blah blah blah.

    But, really, all we had was a mainframe with paper teletypes terminals.

    The most subversive things we did was use the banner program to print dirty words in large letters.

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  5. His mistake... by Mr.+Darl+McBride · · Score: 4, Funny

    His mistake was in not using the samba version of the command. There, you can manually specify the name presented for the sending party. Sending a message from the headmaster asking if any teachers could bum a smoke? Now that would have made the three day suspension something to be proud of!

  6. Re:School days by stienman · · Score: 4, Funny

    By the way, what would have happened if he did launched a batch file like this (say it's called a.bat)
    net send foo Hey!
    call a.bat
    ? That IS annoying... ;-P


    You're right, that is annoying. You'd run out of call space and the batch file would stop running (error out to the command line after a few dozen sends). Try this instead:

    :loop
    net send foo Hey!
    if exist a.bat goto loop

    Then you could stop it by deleting the batch file remotely (assuming it's run from a networked drive).

    -Adam

  7. Re:Great article - did anyone else read it? by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

    "How about emailing the principal of that school and telling him what you think of his actions?"

    ooo Good Idea!! I can embed an image hosted on my server, watch the logs, and get his IP address. Then, I can net send him until he capitulates!

    Very clever!

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    "Derp de derp."
  8. Re:overreaction by Txiasaeia · · Score: 2, Funny

    Writing assignments sure helped me out - I was an ass in high school and, as a consequence of my frequent and lengthy detentions, I'm now on my way to earning my Masters degree in English literature.

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  9. Re:Well... by John+Miles · · Score: 4, Funny
    It's a rite of passage

    Yep. In my case, circa 1984 on an Apple ][ at lunchtime:
    10 FOR I=1 to 6000000 : NEXT
    20 PRINT CHR$(7)
    30 PRINT "<name of teacher> SUCKS THE BIG ONE"
    40 GOTO 20
    This little bit of "hacking" got me banned from the computer lab for the rest of the year, depriving me of the chance to play with the brand-new Macintosh they'd just received. This punishment sucked total ass at the time, but as things turned out, being forced to stick with my old Apple ][+ at home was the best thing that could have happened to me. By investing all my learning time in the 6502, I managed to build the necessary skills to drop out of real life and join the game industry, hacking Ultimas at Origin Systems.

    Like the Dread Pirate himself said: "I, myself, am often surprised at life's little quirks."
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  10. Re:Well... by aldousd666 · · Score: 2, Funny
    here's one I used to do to the Radio shack Tandy line of machines they had on display at the shop

    10 FOR X = 1 to 65535
    20 poke x, int(rnd(1)*255)
    30 NEXT X

    It made them beep and squeal and display all kinds of funny lines. I'd walk out of the store right after I kicked it off and then walk back later laughing at the puzzled shop clerks trying to sell 'disabled' merchandise.

    I was 11 at the time.

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    Speak for yourself.
  11. Re:Great article - did anyone else read it? by bobthemuse · · Score: 4, Funny

    I can embed an image hosted on my server, watch the logs, and get his IP address. Then, I can net send him until he capitulates!

    Are you referring to an Internet Protocol Address Verifier?

  12. Sending a message by tilrman · · Score: 2, Funny

    In her email to the columnist, the Richland Middle School "campus computer liason" explained (emphasis mine):

    "... [S]uspension of students who are guilty of such tampering sends a message to all students that is beneficial and necessary."

  13. Re:Well... by dnahelix · · Score: 3, Funny

    That is so true, everyone knows Bush has nothing to do with schools or education.

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