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Magnifying by Powers of Ten

Ron Harwood observes: "Molecular Expressions at Florida State University has a view of Earth starting at 10 million light years and working it's way closer by "powers of ten" till you are at the smallest point scientists can go in the subatomic universe."

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  1. duplicate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    this story has been posted before.

    1. Re:duplicate by AEton · · Score: 2, Informative

      that's correct. That was a year and a half ago, though, so maybe new people will see it.

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  2. Book on the subject by Theory+of+Everything · · Score: 4, Informative

    There's a book that's been published that is pretty much the same thing, by MIT Physics Professor Philip Morrison and others. It can be found here.

    1. Re:Book on the subject by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The slideshow is here

    2. Re:Book on the subject by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The book is outstanding and a classic. When I worked in the development team at at TECHNIQUEST in the UK, we developed a fixed zoom exhibit based on the concept. If you're ever in Cardiff (South Wales), I suggest you head there and play with the big toys.

      Ignore the kids, or go at a quiet time, and it'll be a lot of fun.

      - J

  3. Re:How did it all come to be? by Saganaga · · Score: 1

    oops! "their" s/b "there". Dang.

  4. Wheee... by Ianoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You know, I'm sure this story is a dupe, and I'm sure I've seen it before, but nonetheless, it's still pretty darned amazing to see the universe like that. The number of times you have to zoom out to see the Galaxy from the roof of the laboratory shows you just how small we really are. No wonder we haven't met any extraterrestrials yet, our society, our entire civilisation has literally no impact on even our own solar system, let alone anything further out. Definitely puts my 10AM deadline in to perspective.

    For people interested primarily in astronomy, there's a similar thing here which gives a count of the number of stars at different zoom levels. Interestingly, there are only 33 stars within 12.5ly, but there are 250,000 within 250ly. I don't think that sort of distance will be beyond us in a few centuries, if we get our act together. That's an awful lot of exploring to do...

    As a sidenote, I would have loved to be the undergraduate student with the digital camera who got that assignment for his final year project!

    1. Re:Wheee... by Zathrus · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm sure I've seen it before

      Read the webpage. It's based off Dutch engineer and educator Kees Boeke Powers of Ten idea, which was later turned into a film by Charles and Ray Eames. You probably saw the film in grade school (in the US at least) or at some science/tech museum. It's a pretty popular piece.

      And yes, I thought the same thing. Until I read the webpage.

    2. Re:Wheee... by Otter · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Also, this crew at Florida State deserves credit for making an arcane corner of engineering into something widely interesting. I don't believe any of their technology is especially novel (could easily be wrong, though) but they have a great sense of how to use it to do fun things and popularize the results in a fun way. I even own one of their neckties.

      But, yeah, it's beyond a dupe. Taco linked everything on their site back when this was a one man show, and Hemos pretty much duped them all in the first couple of months after he joined up. (Misuse of apostrophes has been a constant from the Chips and Dips posts to today's.) Still, it's fun, they seem able to take a Slashdotting and it's worth relinking everything they have once a year.

    3. Re:Wheee... by NanoGator · · Score: 1, Funny

      "The number of times you have to zoom out to see the Galaxy from the roof of the laboratory shows you just how small we really are."

      Simultaenously across the planet, men's legs cross.

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    4. Re:Wheee... by FePe · · Score: 1

      " it's still pretty darned amazing to see the universe like that. The number of times you have to zoom out to see the Galaxy from the roof of the laboratory shows you just how small we really are. No wonder we haven't met any extraterrestrials yet, our society, our entire civilisation has literally no impact on even our own solar system, let alone anything further out.".

      Considering this, it's weird that some scientist who study earthquakes and vulcanoes believe that they can control Nature and the earth. They should look at these pictures...

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    5. Re:Wheee... by DjReagan · · Score: 1

      I've definately seen that webpage before. Including the little slider where you can change the speed that its running at.

      The page hit counter has been running since 1999.. so its not that unlikely.

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    6. Re:Wheee... by DerekLyons · · Score: 1
      But, yeah, it's beyond a dupe.
      Way, way, way beyond a dupe. There was a dead-tree version of this published nearly fifty years ago. It's cool that it's on the web, but it isn't original.
    7. Re:Wheee... by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      Say what?
      And where did they get the images to do this 50 years ago?

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    8. Re:Wheee... by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1
      And where did they get the images to do this 50 years ago?

      What do you think, these are actual photographs from the edge of the universe?

    9. Re:Wheee... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As much as I dislike the parent poster, his post, while not funny in the slightest, was just a joke, not really off topic.

    10. Re:Wheee... by DerekLyons · · Score: 2, Informative

      IIRC most of the images were airbrushed. (I used to own a copy of the book, probably still do, but my library is, um, disorganized.) Check the page linked in the article at the top (the page with the animations), the full story is down towards the bottom.

    11. Re:Wheee... by GeckoX · · Score: 1

      Um, no, not all of them.
      But most of them are real photos.

      50 years ago they didn't even have photos of the earth from space of any sort...so the original must have been pretty much entirely a fictional work of art, where as this one, for the most part, uses real images.

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  5. See the Eames version by david94133 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The original Powers of Ten video (by Charles and Ray Eames) is still the definitive version. I highly recommend it to anyone who likes this web version.

    The original is one continuous zoom, from human-scale, all the way out, then al the way in, down to sub-atomic particles. There is narration and various clues to scale, which helps a lot.

    It is a landmark film and holds up very well after all these years.

    1. Re:See the Eames version by br0ck · · Score: 2, Informative

      The original Powers of Ten video (by Charles and Ray Eames) is still the definitive version.

      Screencaps Webcast (Real Player)

    2. Re:See the Eames version by DerekLyons · · Score: 2, Interesting
      The original Powers of Ten video (by Charles and Ray Eames) is still the definitive version. I highly recommend it to anyone who likes this web version.
      Sadly, that's not the original. The original was published in dead-tree form in Holland in 1957. The Eames video is based on that book. (The full history is near the bottom of the URL linked in the article.)
    3. Re:See the Eames version by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      A book is a really low frame rate video

    4. Re:See the Eames version by ShavenYak · · Score: 1

      Low frame rate, but incredibly high resolution. Which, if you think about it, is preferable for this application.

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  6. The film was better by Usquebaugh · · Score: 1

    ...anyone else catch the file :-)

  7. Saw It At The Smithsonian by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 2, Insightful

    For those who think they've seen this, the Air and Space Museum at the Smithsonian has had a similar film since (at least) the 1970's, but the Earth scene was a man sleeping on a bench after a picnic and the film (it was a film, not slides or static pictures) zoomed in on molecules in his hand.

    I know other museums have shown this film, since I saw it in a display at the Science Museum of Virginia and found out I could buy a video of it in their giftshop.

  8. Not far enough by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Redundant

    they didn't go down to the superstring or brane level. i feel cheated.

  9. Re:How did it all come to be? by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 1

    I thought we had an answer to that question, or at least the Ultimate Question.

    It's 42, isn't it?

  10. I saw an IMAX version of this by sahonen · · Score: 1

    Let me tell you... Watching this sort of thing on a 5 story screen just messes with your head... Going from the superclusters of superclusters of galaxies down to quarks, wow, it's undescribable.

    The part that really gets you is looking at the sheer size of the universe and realizing how much of it we truly know.

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    1. Re:I saw an IMAX version of this by p3d0 · · Score: 1

      Regarding your "acronym abuse" thing, it's a joke. It started with everyone saying "I am not a lawyer" before giving legal advice, which became "IANAL". Then, others started using it as a joke for any expert profession, like "IANARS (I Am Not A Rocket Scientist)".

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    2. Re:I saw an IMAX version of this by sahonen · · Score: 1

      Everyone knows what IANA means... So make it IANA Rocket Scientist.

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    3. Re:I saw an IMAX version of this by p3d0 · · Score: 1

      Did you see the part where I said it was a joke? (Ok, maybe it's not funny. That's a different issue.)

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  11. Easy Answer by missing000 · · Score: 2, Informative

    Turtles all the way down

    1. Re:Easy Answer by _RiZ_ · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Better than netflix my ass. DvdBarn blows ass. The games section is like going to the left over bin at the supermarket with games that are older than most people on /.

      So far, there is nothing better than netflix which is legal. You are nuts.

    2. Re:Easy Answer by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2, Funny

      Turtles, eh?

      African or European?

      (And why do I find myself asking this question so often lately?)

    3. Re:Easy Answer by missing000 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Just Turtles.

      It's from "A Brief History Of Time" (Stephen Hawking)

      From http://www.the-funneled-web.com/hawking.htm:

      A well-known scientist (some say it was Bertrand Russell) once gave a public lecture on astronomy. He described how the earth orbits around the sun and how the sun, in turn, orbits around the centre of a vast collection of stars called our galaxy.

      At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got up and said: "What you have told us is rubbish.
      The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise."

      The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, "What is the tortoise standing on?"

      "You're very clever, young man, very clever," said the old lady. "But it's turtles all the way down."

    4. Re:Easy Answer by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

      Way to kill a joke. :(

    5. Re:Easy Answer by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it was Bertrand Russell - he quotes the story himself in one of his books (don't ask me _which_ book - it certainly wasn't 'Principia Mathematica' - it'd be about 40 years since I read it).

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    6. Re:Easy Answer by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1
      Yeah, it was Bertrand Russell

      I thought it was Feynman. Or was he simply telling the story?

  12. Hmmm.... by _RiZ_ · · Score: 3, Informative

    This whole thing was very nicely animated in an IMAX movie called Cosmic Voyage. It was narrated by Morgan Freeman and the graphics and sound were amazing. If you have a nice home theater setup (too bad if you dont! =] ) get Cosmic Voyage from Netflix, turn it up and enjoy.

    The fluidity of the animation from a quark to the edge of the known universe is what makes it amazing. So it ends up going further out than this one did.

  13. Hitchhiker's guide by sahonen · · Score: 3, Funny

    So it's basically a device that shows the universe in its mind-boggling hugeness with an infinitely small dot-on-a-dot labelled "You Are Here"?

    (The wording isn't exact, but I hope I got the gist of it)

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    1. Re:Hitchhiker's guide by daeley · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You are of course referring to the Total Perspective Vortex, which all extremists of any sort should be forced into.

      Which reminds of my favorite sig: "Death to all extremists!" :)

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    2. Re:Hitchhiker's guide by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 1
      You are of course referring to the Total Perspective Vortex, which all extremists of any sort should be forced into.
      Why bother building such a thing. All you need is an island. Dump all the extremists on it and they'll annihilate each other.

      (This is because of the principle of supersymetrie. For every extremist there is an equaly hatefull anti-extremist. e.g. the White suppremist and the anti-white suppremist, better know as the Muslim fundamentalist)
    3. Re:Hitchhiker's guide by WolfWithoutAClause · · Score: 1
      Hey, the universe is a pretty neat place. Didn't I tell you baby? I am Zap... WolfWithoutAClause!

      (With apologies to Douglas Adams)

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    4. Re:Hitchhiker's guide by ShavenYak · · Score: 1

      I went into it once. It was nice to find out what a hoopy frood I really am!

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  14. Re:How did it all come to be? by TheWanderingHermit · · Score: 1

    Sorry -- I had indended on leaving that at the end of my post, like a tag, but got distracted when my my call to tech support was suddenly answered after 45 minutes and I hit the submit by mistake.

    I can't help but to think that the ultimate "design" of the Universe is something close to fractal based. When we understand the patterns at the most rudimentary level of the Universe, I think we'll see how those patterns are repeated, over and over, on bigger levels with slight alterations. It's kind of like the way an atom almost resembles a solar system. It's outdated, but there's a great story from the 40's or 50's called "He Who Shrank" about a lab assistant who gets fitted with a telemetry helmet by his boss, who uses a "shrink forumla" on him. As he shrinks, he falls into a block of dense material and the atoms are, to him, like solar systems, and he lands on the planets and keeps shrinking and repeating this over and over.

    Whenever I see a Powers of 10 film, I can't help but to think of that story.

  15. Access Count Since December 24, 1999: 12539635 by dfinster · · Score: 1

    So, it's not exactly "news". I first saw this at least two years ago.

  16. Looks familiar ... by graf0z · · Score: 2, Interesting

    When i was a twelve year old schoolboy i read this book and was really fascinated. Same idea. /graf0z.

  17. & I thought... by jantheman · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...planetary orbits weren't visible.
    I stand corrected.

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  18. Were the Beginning & Ending Similar ? by leoaugust · · Score: 1

    I have all the pictures saved as a slideshow and have seen them as the screen-saver for some years now.

    What has never ceased to amaze me is that all the levels that were shown were part of a continuous reality but we have broken them into many almost independent fields of study. Chemistry, Biology, Astronomy, High Physics, Genetics, Meterology, Architecture, etc. All of these fields now seem to me to be just different colored lenses helping you catch one glimpse of the awesome reality. Putting on all lenses together at one time would give us the furthest view, but the last person who was said to have known everything that was there to be known has been dead a few centuries. So, for us now, being able to wear all the lenses at the same time is an impossibility. That is our limitation. And of course the real limitation is in the time available to us because if it were infinite we would have enough time to be able to wear all the lenses at least once. But in the current situation we can't; time is not infinite.

    In addition, what gets me always is that at the starting (i.e most positive powers) and at the ending point (most negative powers) the nature of our imagination of them is very similar. In my mind I could easily switch some of the last images with some of the first images and not really see anything upset much. It is almost like that is the region where the positive and negative loops somehow mysteriously join back-to-back. It is as if after we see the Russian Doll like nature of the universe, we see that the innermost Russian Doll also actually contains the outermost Russian Doll. And then I compare my life to these Russian Dolls, and don't feel too bad. I guess, that's what I like about the Powers of Ten.

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    1. Re:Were the Beginning & Ending Similar ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, quit bogarting the bong!

  19. Movie at Epcot by Orne · · Score: 1

    I saw a better version of this on a big screen when I went to Disney World this Christmas vacation; it's running in Innovations in Epcot projected on a 20 foot square screen, part of a "nanoscale devices" exhibit.

    It's not quite the Charles & Ray Earnes movie, since it starts out in space at ~10^9 (orbiting earth) then "smoothly" zooms in to ~10^-10 (electron level) ... "smoothly" being a somewhat obvious computerized blend between satelite cameras to normal optics to electron microscope images... but it was at 30 frames a second, not seconds per frame like Florida's java applet.

  20. Overdone by dtfinch · · Score: 1

    I saw a film that had this back in high school that looked like it was made in the 80's. I think the quality was a little better too.

  21. Zaphod says.... by jmlyle · · Score: 1


    It simply proves that oak tree is the most important thing in the universe.

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  22. Re:How did it all come to be? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    "Many Worlds Hypothesis". All mathematically consistent worlds exist from beginning to end, with varying distributions of stuff (matter, energy, whatever) and varying physical parameters and laws. It just so happens that only fairly remarkable worlds have the complexity to permit the evolution of lifeforms that can be astounded at the complexity of the world they are in. Were you looking for a Creator? Modern physics doesn't rule out that possiblity, but doesn't find one necessary.

  23. Re:How did it all come to be? by Saganaga · · Score: 1
    "Many Worlds Hypothesis". All mathematically consistent worlds exist from beginning to end, with varying distributions of stuff (matter, energy, whatever) and varying physical parameters and laws. It just so happens that only fairly remarkable worlds have the complexity to permit the evolution of lifeforms that can be astounded at the complexity of the world they are in. Were you looking for a Creator? Modern physics doesn't rule out that possiblity, but doesn't find one necessary.
    The Occam's Razor principle points towards the simpler answer of a designer/creator of the universe than the "Many Worlds Hypothesis"...don't you think? And besides, wouldn't the "Many Worlds" still need a creator(s)?
  24. Re:How did it all come to be? by ShavenYak · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, Occam's Razor suggests that your theories not include entities which are unnecesary. Thus, if you can explain the Universe without sticking a Supreme Being in your theories, you're following Occam's advice.

    Of course, just because Occam's Razor seems to favor one theory over another doesn't mean that theory is correct, so use it with a grain of salt.

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  25. That's why the sky is blue by ooby · · Score: 1

    It's because we float in a big blue ring around the sun. Now it all makes sense.

  26. Re:How did it all come to be? by Saganaga · · Score: 1

    But my thought is that you can't explain the universe without a creator. The multiple worlds hypothesis still begs the question, "where did the multiple worlds come from?"

    And I agree with you about Occam's Razor--you can imagine all sorts of scenarios where using Occam's Razor could lead you down the wrong path.

  27. Re:How did it all come to be? by jdigriz · · Score: 1

    And including a creator begs the question, "Where did the creator come from?" An infinite regression either way. The difference is, we have evidence of at least one example of a Universe, but none of a Universal creator.

  28. Re:How did it all come to be? by Saganaga · · Score: 1

    Where we disagree, then, is on the supposed "lack of evidence" of a creator. I and others like me see the evidence for one all around us, yet others (like yourself) apparently do not acknowledge the evidence. Fair enough.

  29. Who took that picture? by cachorro · · Score: 1

    I wonder how they got that picture showing the view of earth from 10M ly away.

    1. Re:Who took that picture? by RobertB-DC · · Score: 1

      I wonder how they got that picture showing the view of earth from 10M ly away.

      From a camera 10 million light-years away, of course!

      Silly boy.

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  30. Quarks by ByteSlicer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Too bad the last stages are a bit crude.
    The protons are shown as perfect spheres, and seem to contain thousands of quarks (instead of the usual 3).
    See AIP

  31. Re:How did it all come to be? by Bush+Pig · · Score: 1

    I've been looking for evidence - any evidence - of a creator for nearly 40 years (admittedly with a pretty sceptical eye) and I have seen none. Occam rules.

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  32. FSU's latest by bob_calder · · Score: 1

    was the high magnetics record field at 25 gauss. It too was posted twice, strangely enough. It is right there next door somewhere in the picture I guess though I have never seen it from that perspective. It would be more instructive to zoom in on teaching assistant housing which is also nearby. Seeing the native PHD candidates in their hovels, cooking over the glowing coals of rejected research papers . . . .

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    1. Re:FSU's latest by Otter · · Score: 1
      It would be more instructive to zoom in on teaching assistant housing which is also nearby. Seeing the native PHD candidates in their hovels, cooking over the glowing coals of rejected research papers . . . .

      Oh, believe me, I'm _extremely_ familiar with that aspect of science. I watch the Mars broadcasts and think, "Now, _that's_ something cool to work on. Although it still probably sucks 99.9% of the time."

  33. Javascript Scale Model of the Solar System by spanklin · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Check out this link. A guy at the Exploratorium (the sysadmin?) wrote this page. You plug in how big you want the Sun to be (e.g., 1 inch diameter), and it gives you the scale of the sizes/orbital radii for the planets, the size of a light year, speed of light, and others. I used it in a talk I gave. If you make the Sun the size of a golf ball, Pluto is a grain of sand at the other end of an (American) football field, and the nearest star is another golfball 450+ miles away!

  34. Arbitrary start wanted by ghostlibrary · · Score: 1

    I'd be more impressed if you could choose an arbitrary starting point. It _is_ an interactive Java app, after all!

    Imagine, a little initial mouse nudge to the east, and you could zoom in on Paris Hilton! A little further left on frame 1, and you could view an alien civilization! And 10^12 times out of 10^12+1... you'd end up zooming in on empty space for the entire thing once it gets to 'planetary' scale.

    Yep, I want me my Zoomable Universe[tm]!

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  35. Ever try to make a tree? by benthar · · Score: 0

    Ever hear of a group of scientists "accidentally" making a tree/plant/animal/anything of higher life form from just a bunch of chemicals? (expects to be moderated to nothingness)

    1. Re:Ever try to make a tree? by ZorinLynx · · Score: 1

      No, because the "accidental" making of such requires billions of years, not a few minutes in a lab.

  36. Re:How did it all come to be? by jdigriz · · Score: 1

    Just another circular regression. What is the primary cause of the Universe:God? What evidence do you find for God: the Universe! Sometimes A just equals A.

  37. Re:How did it all come to be? by Saganaga · · Score: 1

    No, it's not circular at all. The evidence for God is not conclusive, sure, but it is nonetheless compelling. I'm always astounded to what lengths some people go to come up to justify an atheistic worldview.

  38. Mods out of control by Saganaga · · Score: 1

    So trying to state that the design of the universe is a good indication that a creator exists is flamebait? Come on moderators, be serious!