Ever hear of a group of scientists "accidentally" making a tree/plant/animal/anything of higher life form from just a bunch of chemicals?
(expects to be moderated to nothingness)
Seems like the Shuttle would be an IDEAL candidate, since they mention it wandering around outside boats... except that pesky 'vector fan' controls that KEEP it against the surface...no air, no vectors...
Guess they'll need a better solution for the shuttle.
HOWTO: Getting a Windows Refund in California Small Claims Court
Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 by Steve Oualline
Thanks to good records and a Small Claims judge, Steve Oualline got a $199 refund for his unused copy of Microsoft Windows XP. One Linux user's story shows how to establish a good refund case.
Getting a Microsoft Windows refund from a manufacturer is seldom easy to do. In this article, I describe some techniques you can use to get your refund, including how to deal with the manufacturers (and all their excuses) and going to small claims court.
The first step to getting a refund is to ask for on. In most every case, you immediately hit a wall of stupidity and evasion when you do this. Dealing with this part properly is important, though, because you are building a record for the court case that may follow. Your job is to be as reasonable as possible and to make them look as dumb, inflexible and unreasonable as possible.
It's important to know what excuses the manufactures will come up with and how to counter them.
Excuse: You aren't entitled to a refund.
Answer: Then why did the software come with a license that said I was. Isn't the license a binding contract?
Excuse: Contact Microsoft about the refund.
Answer: The license said contact the manufacturer. That's you. Why should I contact Microsoft when they said to contact you?
Excuse: The software comes bundled with the hardware and can't be separated.
Answer: Then why did you give me a license that said they could?
Excuse: We'll give you a refund, but not for the retail price.
Answer: I paid retail for the computer and the software.
Excuse: The software is only worth $10.
Answer: Okay. Send me the check.
Although this doesn't look like it, you've won a major victory with these words--that check is written evidence of the fact that the manufacturer owes you a refund. If you go to court, you don't have to establish that the company owes you something. All you have to do is establish the amount.
But before you do that, you should follow up with the company. There are several ways of doing this.
Follow up #1: I got your check for $10. You say Windows XP costs only $10, so I'd like to buy 100 copies please. To whom do I make out the check for $1000?
You won't sell me Windows XP for $10? I'll have to pay $199 for it? Then that means the check you sent me is too low. Please send me a check for the full amount.
Follow up #2: I got your check for $10. But your $10 price is far lower that the retail price of Windows XP ($199). Because of the vast difference in the amounts, I'm going to have to ask you for a copy of your purchase contract with Microsoft so I can verify the price.
You can't verify the price. Well, I can only find one documented price and that's $199. You'll have to pay that amount or document your price.
One company tried this excuse with me. When I asked for documentation, the customer service representative said, "I don't have access to price information".
"Then how did you come up with the $10 price figure?"
"I just know it's the right amount."
"So what you are really doing is guessing. Well, my guess is the software is worth $1,000,000. Tell you what, let's split the difference. Send me a check for $500,005."
Excuse: We'll give you a refund but that applies to only Microsoft Windows, not the other bundled software.
Answer: No problem. Please provide me with a copy of all the other software on another disk so I can install it under Linux using the Wine program.
In all of these cases, follow up the phone conversation with a written letter describing what was said and why you're unhappy with it. Remember you are creating a record for the judge.
At some point in this process you'll either get your refund (rare) or you'll realize the manufacturer is going to be totally unreasonable. So now is the time to present your argument to an unbiased third party who has the power to get you your refund. This person is a Small Claims Court judge.
I am not a lawyer, so any legal advice I give isn't official, but I have been to sma
Simply sign up for an AOL account.
Or put a valid phone number in your Yahoo E-mail Account.
Or you could even go so far as to fill out all of those "Enter to win a car" contests at the local Mall.
Sorry, hate to burst your delusioned bubble, but AC2 is STILL not doing well. The launch was horrible, the game still has problems with CHAT being unstable so you have a 30% chance of being able to talk to people that are not on your immediate screen.
Doubt me? Ok, check out: http://www.accmty.com and look in the ac2 boards.
Or look at the number of people that are logged into the game during peak hours.
Or look at the fact they're combining two game servers in the coming months because the population on both is so low that it doesn't support group game play.
Seriously, you're WAY off base on your description of AC2. Hopefully it will be in a good position in another year, if it survives that long. Unfortunately, it had less than a year of Beta testing, and quite honestly a huge percentage of the problems should have been caught then but weren't.
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Ever hear of a group of scientists "accidentally" making a tree/plant/animal/anything of higher life form from just a bunch of chemicals? (expects to be moderated to nothingness)
Seems like the Shuttle would be an IDEAL candidate, since they mention it wandering around outside boats... except that pesky 'vector fan' controls that KEEP it against the surface...no air, no vectors... Guess they'll need a better solution for the shuttle.
HOWTO: Getting a Windows Refund in California Small Claims Court Posted on Wednesday, July 30, 2003 by Steve Oualline Thanks to good records and a Small Claims judge, Steve Oualline got a $199 refund for his unused copy of Microsoft Windows XP. One Linux user's story shows how to establish a good refund case. Getting a Microsoft Windows refund from a manufacturer is seldom easy to do. In this article, I describe some techniques you can use to get your refund, including how to deal with the manufacturers (and all their excuses) and going to small claims court. The first step to getting a refund is to ask for on. In most every case, you immediately hit a wall of stupidity and evasion when you do this. Dealing with this part properly is important, though, because you are building a record for the court case that may follow. Your job is to be as reasonable as possible and to make them look as dumb, inflexible and unreasonable as possible. It's important to know what excuses the manufactures will come up with and how to counter them. Excuse: You aren't entitled to a refund. Answer: Then why did the software come with a license that said I was. Isn't the license a binding contract? Excuse: Contact Microsoft about the refund. Answer: The license said contact the manufacturer. That's you. Why should I contact Microsoft when they said to contact you? Excuse: The software comes bundled with the hardware and can't be separated. Answer: Then why did you give me a license that said they could? Excuse: We'll give you a refund, but not for the retail price. Answer: I paid retail for the computer and the software. Excuse: The software is only worth $10. Answer: Okay. Send me the check. Although this doesn't look like it, you've won a major victory with these words--that check is written evidence of the fact that the manufacturer owes you a refund. If you go to court, you don't have to establish that the company owes you something. All you have to do is establish the amount. But before you do that, you should follow up with the company. There are several ways of doing this. Follow up #1: I got your check for $10. You say Windows XP costs only $10, so I'd like to buy 100 copies please. To whom do I make out the check for $1000? You won't sell me Windows XP for $10? I'll have to pay $199 for it? Then that means the check you sent me is too low. Please send me a check for the full amount. Follow up #2: I got your check for $10. But your $10 price is far lower that the retail price of Windows XP ($199). Because of the vast difference in the amounts, I'm going to have to ask you for a copy of your purchase contract with Microsoft so I can verify the price. You can't verify the price. Well, I can only find one documented price and that's $199. You'll have to pay that amount or document your price. One company tried this excuse with me. When I asked for documentation, the customer service representative said, "I don't have access to price information". "Then how did you come up with the $10 price figure?" "I just know it's the right amount." "So what you are really doing is guessing. Well, my guess is the software is worth $1,000,000. Tell you what, let's split the difference. Send me a check for $500,005." Excuse: We'll give you a refund but that applies to only Microsoft Windows, not the other bundled software. Answer: No problem. Please provide me with a copy of all the other software on another disk so I can install it under Linux using the Wine program. In all of these cases, follow up the phone conversation with a written letter describing what was said and why you're unhappy with it. Remember you are creating a record for the judge. At some point in this process you'll either get your refund (rare) or you'll realize the manufacturer is going to be totally unreasonable. So now is the time to present your argument to an unbiased third party who has the power to get you your refund. This person is a Small Claims Court judge. I am not a lawyer, so any legal advice I give isn't official, but I have been to sma
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Ok, while this is just a troll post, I still think it's sorta humorous....
Anonymous COWARD is a "PROUD MEMBER"...so proud, didn't use their name...lol
Oh well, mod this down please, I've had my almost chuckle of the past 10 seconds.
Here's a saying that should clarify it: Men are like dogs, Women are like cats.
Simply sign up for an AOL account. Or put a valid phone number in your Yahoo E-mail Account. Or you could even go so far as to fill out all of those "Enter to win a car" contests at the local Mall.
Sorry, hate to burst your delusioned bubble, but AC2 is STILL not doing well. The launch was horrible, the game still has problems with CHAT being unstable so you have a 30% chance of being able to talk to people that are not on your immediate screen. Doubt me? Ok, check out: http://www.accmty.com and look in the ac2 boards. Or look at the number of people that are logged into the game during peak hours. Or look at the fact they're combining two game servers in the coming months because the population on both is so low that it doesn't support group game play. Seriously, you're WAY off base on your description of AC2. Hopefully it will be in a good position in another year, if it survives that long. Unfortunately, it had less than a year of Beta testing, and quite honestly a huge percentage of the problems should have been caught then but weren't.