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The Cheese Slicing Laser

purduephotog writes "Xiaochun Li of The University of Wisconsin-Madison has come up with the ultimate gift for those high-tech wine and cheese connoisseurs: A cheese slicing laser. More detailed information is available at Optics.Org."

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  1. Well darn by DarkHand · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Basically, the cutting process is cold laser ablation, like that in laser eye surgery," said Li. "At 266 nm it gives a very good clean cut, although going deeper than 10 mm is difficult."
    Now how am I supposed to cut my 10 pound wheels into Valentines decorations?

    1. Re:Well darn by roseblood · · Score: 4, Funny

      If you put it on the head of a shark you can go 20cm deep, 10 cm from each side. And to think that people said that sharks with frigging laserbeams on their frigging heads would never see any practical application!

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  2. Who Cut the Cheese... by mcasson · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can see the advertisement now...it's how the civilized cut the cheese.

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    1. Re:Who Cut the Cheese... by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

      This is the weapon of a Jedi Caterer...an elegant utensil for a more civilized day. For over a thousand generations the Jedi Caterers were the servers of hor'dorves and snacks in the Republic. Before the dark times, before the Kraft Empire...

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  3. Bets by saden1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Someone is going to lose a finger within the first week it is out on the market.

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  4. Yeah that's great..... by whiteranger99x · · Score: 5, Funny

    we just need to get some frickin sharks to put the frickin lasers on their frickin heads!!

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  5. Interesting Idea by ReTay · · Score: 4, Interesting

    But for home use?
    Not going to happen in the us at least.
    The legal ramifications and potential misuse will make it unlikely (as cool as it would be)
    to ever to be offered to consumers.

    1. Re:Interesting Idea by SurgeonGeneral · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "But for home use?
      Not going to happen in the us at least.
      The legal ramifications and potential misuse will make it unlikely (as cool as it would be)"


      I can easily acquire a tec-9 semi automatic machine gun and bullets for it can be bought from Wal-mart, but somehow you think a laser that cuts through cheese will be banned from consumers?

      And isnt that "someone-might-do-something-bad-with-it" argument the same one we frown upon which the RIAA/MPAA uses to outlaw threatening hardware?

      Get real.

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    2. Re:Interesting Idea by the_mad_poster · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're obviously not accustomed to the arbitrary, uninformed outrage expressed by the typical U.S. muttonhead... er... citizen.

      We've got people screaming bloody murder about "frankenfood" who learned everything they know about genetics from "The Hulk" and "Spiderman". They SHOULD be screaming for studies, they ARE screaming for a ban.

      I'd be surprised if someone DOESN'T try to outlaw this or classify it as a military weapon or something similarly idiotic. "Somebody think of the children!" they'll scream as kids keep shining laser pointers in each others' eyes as a "joke".

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    3. Re:Interesting Idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      You can acquire a Tec-9 Semi-Automatic and a Machine Gun, can you? Well, I'm glad. Because you're the only person in the universe who can.

      You've got no clue, have you?

      First: Tec-9's are semi-only. Semi-Automatic means you have to pull the trigger each time you want a bullet to come out the front. With a machine gun, you hold the trigger down, and bullets come out indefinitely unless: a) you run out of ammo, or b) you melt the barrel, or otherwise cause a mechanical failure. It's a boolean thing. A gun cannot be semi-automatic and a machine gun at the same time. Is this logical to you?

      Perhaps you can rework the internals of a Tec-9 so it will fire full-auto... But I wouldn't know why anyone would want one anyway. They're pieces of shit. Last damn thing I'd take to a firefight. I'd rather have a slingshot. The old-school kind.

      Thirdly, the term "machine gun" applies to military guns that use rifle cartriges, and are heavy enough to maintain fire for extended periods. They're usually crew-served, and are semi-stationary.

      Light machineguns are portable, but still weigh a ton. Such as the M249 SAW (Squad Automatic Weapon).

      Assault rifles CAN be automatic, but not necessairly (M16, M4, Kalashnikovs, for example) This is the common armanent for infantrymen.

      Submachine guns are highly portable, and are intended for close range combat, and are fully automatic, and usually use pistol cartriges. Thompsons, MP5, UMP, etc for example. SWAT police use these more than anyone.

      Machine pistols are fully automatic guns using pistol cartriges. This is what a Tec would be, if it were fully auto (which none that are for sale are). Other examples: Uzi, MP40 (which was usually seen with a buttstock, making it an auto-carbine). NOBODY uses these, except in movies. Not even the terrorists. These are intended as a defense weapon that can fit into a plane or tank easily.

      Full auto guns are quite difficult to come by in the US. To legally own one, you and the gun must be liscensed, and taxed. Most gang-bangers have never laid hands on a full auto. Guranteed.

      Know what you are talking about before you spout off your ignorant mouth.

  6. Much better than Stainless wires by The_Systech · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Man, this would have been great back a few years ago when I was working at a plant that packaged natural cheese. The most automated process we had was using pnuematic cylindars to push a 40# block of Cheddar through a frame with criss-crossed stainless steel wires. I can just imagine how much closer we could have hit the weight tolerances using lasers... Plus you don't have to stop and clean a laser beam every once in a while..

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    1. Re:Much better than Stainless wires by Technician · · Score: 5, Informative

      Please read the article. They are cutting patterns in a slice of cheese, not cutting slices of cheese. The cheese sags and they have been unable to make deep cuts. The slices they were cutting into patterns were only 2.5mm thick. This does not cut a slab from off the old block.
      With the right software, a nice 3d surface engraving would look outstanding.

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  7. Did anyone else read ..... by MajorDick · · Score: 5, Funny

    Maybe it was just my eyes jumping around but did anyone else read "Chinese slicing laser"
    I think it was Xiaochun Li and Cheese slicing laser ....had me worried there for a second

  8. Somewhere, a George Carlin sketch is referenced... by whiteranger99x · · Score: 5, Funny

    "In a country where you can buy cinnamon dental floss, cheese in a spray can, and edible womens panties, are people really breaking their balls to save nine cents on a fucking phone call?!"

    Well, now we can add cheese cutting lasers to that list.

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  9. Invented by Dr. Evil? by doc_traig · · Score: 4, Funny


    I have created this giant "laser" to threaten the "Earth" with "snacks."

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  10. Gold-fingahhhh by ThePretender · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Now I want one! All I can think of is reenacting the scene from Goldfinger where they attempt to kill Bond with the laser that would slice him up the middle starting with his naughty bits. The plan is foiled (of course) but you get the idea!

  11. Safety? by marshac · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Li tried again using a new class of laser that emits light in ultraviolet, and therefore shorter, wavelengths. That laser, known as a cold laser, cuts by blasting apart the molecular bonds that hold materials together.

    By breaking molecular bonds in the cheese, wouldn't that alter the chemistry of the cheese where it had been cut? Could this inadvertently produce carcinogenic compounds (like when you burn meat)?

  12. Warning! by cperciva · · Score: 4, Funny

    Do not look at cheese slicer with remaining eye!

  13. Why only cheese? by addie · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm no laser expert, but by the description in the article, it sounds like this kind of technology could be applied to all sorts of food. If it isn't actually burning a slice, but rather "blasting" the molecules apart, couldn't it be used for meat, bread, whatever else has similar issues with bacteria?

    Seems to me the higher energy costs in these factories would be offest by the gain in work hours that would have before been used for cleaning, disinfecting, sharpening, replacing etc of the blades.

  14. cheese laser == wrong tool by AFirmGraspOfReality · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Cool as this might be, it's the wrong tool for the job. Waterjets are waaaaay better for things like this. Faster and no smell. Have a look at: http://www.flowcorp.com/

  15. Re:cheese laser == wrong tool by AFirmGraspOfReality · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No mush. I've seen waterjets cut a fresh doughnut into 5 concentric rings. Perfect, clean cut. The water jet itself is very,very fine. Extremely high-pressure waterjets can cut through steel as well as cheese.

  16. Depends on what bonds they're breaking by Morgaine · · Score: 4, Informative

    By breaking molecular bonds in the cheese, wouldn't that alter the chemistry of the cheese where it had been cut? Could this inadvertently produce carcinogenic compounds (like when you burn meat)?

    It sounds like it might, although the article didn't really give enough information to tell. In a nutshell, when you cleave cheese apart with a mechanical cheese cutter like a knife or a wire, the only thing you "break apart" (using the term loosely) is Van der Waals forces, and those do not hold the atomic components within molecules together (as covalent or ionic bonds do) so the action does not generally result in chemical change. Long-chain polymers will get broken too, but they typically have the same chemistry whatever their molecular length.

    If the laser is truly breaking the bonds of non-polymeric organic molecules then this doesn't sound too healthy chemically, but that is not the only way that a laser might cut without burning. It is possible to imagine rapid vaporization of water or of other volatiles in the material causing sudden expansion which would cleave sections apart through vapor pressure, in a manner very similar to mechanical cutting, and hence safely.

    We'll have to wait for further information on what is really going on before we know whether there are any concerns about chemical side effects.

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  17. Cutting patterns in cheese, not slicing it by jim3e8 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The ABC News article makes it sound like the laser was used to cut a block of cheese up into thin slices. This is not the case, according to the optics.org article. In reality, they've successfully cut patterns in a thin slice of cheese (making a dinosaur, letters and numbers--kids like that stuff), without using a stainless steel die cutter. In fact, the laser can't really cut deeper than 1 cm, less than 1/2 inch. So, slicing up a big block of cheese with a giant laser beam in an industrial setting, let alone in your kitchen, will have to wait.

  18. Re:A Raclette Laser by throughthewire · · Score: 4, Informative
    Nitrogen is colorless, odorless, and not all that terribly reactive. The earth's atmosphere is ~78% nitrogen. Does it stink all the time where you are?

    More likely, the bad smell is a combination of burnt proteins (ever had a bug die on top of a torchiere-style lamp?) and sulphur compounds.

  19. Re:French Fries by RadioTV · · Score: 4, Informative

    First of all "Modern Marvels" is on History not on TLC. Second, I think that you need to watch that episode again. They use a laser to measure the fries, but they use high-speed knives to cut them.

    On the other hand the footage of a potato-and-water jet going in one side of cutting die and french fries coming out the other side is pretty cool.

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  20. We had to get here eventually... by sczimme · · Score: 4, Funny


    It was a feta-compli.

    :-)

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