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TruSonic Uses MP3.com Catalog As Muzak

Wacky_Wookie writes "Well, it looks like all the artists who put their songs up on MP3.com are about to break into a whole new market - elevators! The Register is reporting that Vivendi, who had control over MP3.com's archive of over 1.5 million songs even after the site's sale to CNET, has sold rebroadcasting rights to TruSonic.com, who sell them as piped music to hotels, restaurants and other businesses, passing on royalties along the way. I guess this is Vivendi's way of 'lifting' artists into new markets." Unfortunately, according to the TruSonic site FAQ, the site "does not support any type of artist page that is accessible by the public", and, according to another independent page, "any song that any artist [uploaded to MP3.com since a certain date?] got enrolled into TruSonic unless the artist 'opted out'."

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  1. 1108 Thugz by ximenes · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope that I can hear the 1108 Thugz on an elevator soon. Preferably Fast Food Fuckin', but I'm not picky.

  2. Crying shame by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That actually depresses me a bit, as I had bought some music off of mp3.com when it was around (believe it or not: the Megatokyo soundtrack. Yeah, I'm a geek.).

    It was one of the few places where an independant artist could try and sell their wares without RIAA influence.

    Now, it seems that Vivendi is doing everything they can to kill it off and make sure that the independant artists have no options to be heard by the public except through "established channels" - aka, through the Music Cartel.

    1. Re:Crying shame by gnu-generation-one · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "That actually depresses me a bit, as I had bought some music off of mp3.com when it was around"

      Great place to buy music.

      You already know it's good music, because all the songs are available to download. When you buy the CD (at a third of the price they're sold in the high-street), you even get MP3 versions of the songs on the data directory. No more CDEXing, just copy the MP3 files in seconds, and the tags are all accurate and ready to put on your Zen.

      Then if the CD gets damaged (all CDs get damaged), you already have a backup copy, legally. And if someone asks you what you're listening to, you can send them a link to download the song from the website. Chatting on IRC, "listen to this", post a link. Or email a link.

      Discover new music. Amazing what you find when you only have to spend 2 minutes of download time to sample a new band, rather than $20 and a trip to the shops. Find music in the charts there. See which music your bands like, from links in their homepages...

      Yes, it's crap that they deleted MP3.com. And you just know, that as long as we live, nobody else will figure out that that's how a music shop should be run...

  3. Meh by SargeZT · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As good of an idea as this is, the system should have been made opt-in instead of opt-out. Some people might not mind being heard on the web, but being heard through other mediums may not be in their plans. And, also, there is no way for an independent artist to have been heard by say, a record label, and contact the person, as there is no interface. Good idea, bad implementation.

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    1. Re:Meh by The+Other+Nate · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The 'A' grew and morphed extensively since the time that I 'signed' it. (many emails informing me, yet no recourse for declining the service once they had a copy of my songs.)

      Oh wait! I should have aimed my retained legal department at them, and used my massive financial assets to bring the bastards to their knees.

      I don't have a large stake in this (i.e. day job and only a handful of songs), but the artists who do this for a living have indeed been screwed.

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  4. Does this mean by Hangin10 · · Score: 5, Funny

    that we can be sued for using an elevator?

    1. Re:Does this mean by sdibb · · Score: 4, Funny

      No, just for sharing one.

  5. cool biz by tedtimmons · · Score: 4, Informative

    Trusonic is pretty cool. They are an offshoot of MP3.com (before MP3 died and the domain name was sold to cnet) called "Retail Music Services". They used to use small, rugged PCs with a couple of audio output jacks, running Linux. They probably have something better now, but it was cool to see Linux boxes at the back of businesses.

    -ted

  6. Corporate greed by lukior · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm sure the artists did not envision this for there music when it was uploaded to mp3.com. This is certainly not going to increase sales of an artists music. Who while sitting in the elevator says, "I wonder who that is." If people were curious they wouldn't have the ability to ask. According to the article the artists are complaining about royalties. It looks like a way for the corporations to circumvent licensing agreements and make money off of content they shouldn't own.

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  7. Original? by tepples · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From the article:

    Please note, not only are you responsible for obtaining all necessary permissions, licenses and consents prior to submitting any songs, you may be held liable for any and all costs and expenses (including legal fees) incurred by TruSonic as a result of your unauthorized use of copyrighted materials.

    Subconscious copying of a copyrighted work into a new work is actionable infringement. Bright Tunes Music v. Harrisongs Music, 420 F. Supp. 177 (S.D.N.Y. 1976). Given this precedent, what steps can a recording artist (call him "George") who writes his own songs take (a) to avoid subconsciously copying copyrighted songs, or (b) to minimize potential damages to George should another copyright holder discover that George had subconsciously misappropriated his copyrighted song?

  8. you know, frankly by ch-chuck · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have *never* heard music played in an actual elevator. In restaurants, hospital lobbies, stores, lots of public places, but can't ever recall it in an elevator, and I've been in many that were packed with sleepy commuters going in to the office.

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    1. Re:you know, frankly by fishbowl · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The term "elevator music" didn't have anything to do with the music being played in elevators -- it refers to musical characteristics that are supposed to elevate your *mood*. Dictionary etymology notwithstanding -- I *know* the term had widespread usage before 1979 (where Merriam-Webster places it without a cite.) It wouldn't really surprise me if there was elevator music before there were elevators or even recorded music, but I'll be a while checking music history sources.

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  9. Shady Dealings by NeoMoose · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Pieces of shit didn't ever inform me that I had to opt-out of this. I had a catalog of over 40 tunes on MP3.com. Now without even informing me about this I am looking at having my stuff licensed out as elevator music. Fuck that.

    I can't believe I had to opt-out of something that they didn't even begin to tell me that this was happening in the first place. I'm not really surprised. Just angry. MP3.com's management has always been a pain in the ass. /me begins firing off angry emails.

  10. Makes me glad by Mullen · · Score: 4, Funny

    Makes me glad I was born with no musical talent, now I can't get fucked over by the music industry.

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  11. Re:Muzak is a trademark! by akejay · · Score: 4, Informative

    per www.muzak.com, "Muzak(R) is a registered trademark of Muzak LLC."

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  12. what's the problem? by sugarbomb · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't see what the problem is ... a) if they play your music, you will get paid b) if you want out, you can get out

    1. Re:what's the problem? by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh come on, take all the fun of bitching about music companies and big business away, what's left? Oh. A perfectly reasonable deal...

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  13. Whiners! by geekd · · Score: 4, Informative

    You people (the complainers) are so stupid.

    This program has been going on for years. TruSonic has been around since 2000. Mp3.com artists have been used as elevator music for over 3 years already.

    All that happened is that division of mp3.com called TruSonic got sold seperately from the rest of mp3.com.

    Maybe try reading the artist agreement before you give your music away.

    dumbasses.

  14. All over now baby blue by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 4, Funny

    Years ago, I was in an elevator that was playing muzak.

    Normally it's easy to ignore, but in this case the tune was maddeningly familiar. I listened, started humming with it and realized what they were playing:

    Black Sabbath's "Paranoid"

    It's been all downhill after that.

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