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Web Ad Trademark Law To Be Retested

scubacuda writes "News.com et al report that The Ninth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals on Wednesday found Playboy Enterprises can pursue charges that Excite and Netscape Communications violated its trademark by selling banner advertisements triggered by the terms 'playboy' and 'playmate.' The decision reverses a district court ruling that dismissed the suit without a trial in 2000. Playboy 'clearly holds the marks in question, and defendants used the marks in commerce without (its) permission,' a split three-judge panel wrote in its majority decision." This is a shame, because the first judge to look at this case seems to have pretty much gotten it right: "Although the trademark terms and the English language words are undisputedly identical, which, presumably, leads plaintiff to believe that the use of the English words is akin to use of the trademarks, the holder of a trademark may not remove a word from the English language merely by acquiring trademark rights in it."

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  1. IMHO, but I must admit IAAL by GnrlFajita · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I would have to disagree that the previous court "got it right," implying that this one got it wrong. Playboy & playmate are famous trademarks, even though they have independent English-language meanings. If I do a search for "playmate," and a banner ad pops up for a non-Playboy adult-oriented site, how is that not trademark infringement? If the ad is for, say, children's clothes or toys, I can see it; but anything else is blatantly taking advantage of the consumer's use of Playboy's trademark and that is what happened here.

    Trademark law is based on likelihood of confusion. I don't agree, and the courts won't either, that Playboy can stop all uses of these terms. But I think it's justified here, where someone is using a company's trademark to sell related but non-affiliated goods. This isn't a case of the search results including related goods; here the website brings up a paid-for banner advertisement: "Some consumers, initially seeking Playboy's sites, may initially believe that unlabeled banner advertisements are links to Playboy's sites...Once they follow the instructions to 'click here,' and they access the site, they may well realize that they are not at a Playboy-sponsored site."

    I agree that most intellectual property law is subject to abuse (see, e.g., RIAA), but that does not automatically equal the proposition that it is all bad or immoral.
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    1. Re:IMHO, but I must admit IAAL by Planesdragon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If I do a search for "playmate," and a banner ad pops up for a non-Playboy adult-oriented site, how is that not trademark infringement?

      If the non-Playboy site has a clearly differnet name, and there's no reasonable possibility of confusion?

      For a different take--if a business named themsleves P-something, and took out a large ad in the "adult entertainment" directory that just happened to be on the same page as Playboy's--how would this be trademark infringement?

    2. Re:IMHO, but I must admit IAAL by The+Evil+Couch · · Score: 2, Insightful
      If I do a search for "playmate," and a banner ad pops up for a non-Playboy adult-oriented site, how is that not trademark infringement?

      Is trademark infringement using similar verbage for similar concepts or for identical usage?

      If someone uses the word "playmate" in the context of porn, but without the Playboy style, is it still infringment? After all, someone could easily pull fetish or word play connotations from the word "playmate" that are not present in Playboy's usage of the word. Is that infringment, or just coincidental?

      I can think of several uses for the word "playmate" within porn without obvious confusion between it and Playboy and I'm not even that dirty minded.

    3. Re:IMHO, but I must admit IAAL by Sloppy · · Score: 5, Insightful
      If I do a search for "playmate," and a banner ad pops up for a non-Playboy adult-oriented site, how is that not trademark infringement?
      Because the search engine is not obligated to show you a clear picture of reality, nor are they obligated to provide a service where the words you enter bring up what you're really looking for.

      When you are looking at magazine covers and you see something titled "Playboy" that isn't the real thing, then the magazine itself has lied to you, misrepresenting itself. That's trademark infringement.

      If you ask someone to get you a Playboy and he comes back with "Doctor Dobbs Swimsuit Issue" then your resulting anger is a matter between you and your him. DDJ didn't infringe a trademark, and more importantly, the guy who brought it to you, didn't infringe either. He just disappointed you (unless you like reading articles about how to use Java to see through women's clothing).

      If you hired someone to bring you a Playboy and he brought you something else, then that might be fraud. But it still wouldn't be trademark infringement.

      I think that using a search engine (especially a free one) is more like a stranger bringing you the wrong thing. The search engine owes its users nothing, so it's not fraud. And they're not saying, "Here's Playboy"; they're saying, "Here's something you might be interested in." That's a subjective judgement call.

      I really hope Playboy loses this one. I don't want to open the door to search engines suddenly being under a bunch of restrictions and the obligation to always provide exactly the right thing. That will kill them. And just to put it in another light: when you search on "Scientology" do you want search engines to only be able to provide links to sites owned by that *cough* church? Aha, got you there.

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    4. Re:IMHO, but I must admit IAAL by TopShelf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This case isn't about the indexing of websites, but the use of specific keywords that were sold to the advertisers in question. They were using the value of those trademarks to drive traffic to their own sites, which could very well be found to be infringement.

      It reminds me roadside markets I've seen set up with lots of knock-off athletic shoes, and a guy standing out front with a hand-written sign that reads in huge letters "NIKE", with small text underneath that says "-style shoes". Since they're set up and taken down in a couple days, nothing happens, but I'm sure Nike could win an infringement case against such tactics.

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    5. Re:IMHO, but I must admit IAAL by nolife · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So, what should show up when you search for Windows? How about Ford or Apple, Stanley, Nissan, Fuji, Campbells, and the many many more then are trademarked but also have multiple meanings. The fact that a trademark is "famous" by your interpetation should have NO bearing on the law. I view this as a company taking what they think you are searching for and giving you alternatives. What if you walked into Staples and an employee asked what you were searching for. You reply with a Compaq computer. The man says take a look at this Sony machine we have on sale this week. Did he just violate the Compaq trademark? Why is this same concept put into the computer world any different?

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    6. Re:IMHO, but I must admit IAAL by Sloppy · · Score: 2, Insightful
      "Freecraft" was against that spirit. So is hijacking "Playboy" and "Playmate" to benefit Playboy's competitors.
      "Hijacking" is a word for manipulating emotions, but not very descriptive or accurate.

      If publish a porn magazine called "Plaeboy" or "Playboi" then your comparison with the Warcraft/Freecraft situation is a good one.

      But programming a computer to spit out "wrong" results in response to a user's query, is a totally different situation.

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  2. Wait a minute... by Stingr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Microsoft can't sue people because windows is too general a term but Playboy can???

    That seems a little hypocritical to me.

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    1. Re:Wait a minute... by CountBrass · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You need to check a dictionary. The word you are looking for is "inconsistent".

      Anyway I (and the courts) think the two cases are different. Windows is (and was) a general term within GUI applications long before Bill registered Windows(tm). In contrast, Playboy (and Playmate) were not associated with Porn' before Hugh Hefner did his job.

      The first court patently got it wrong, the second one got it right. The system's working.

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  3. With all due respect to /. bias by fw3 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This is (imo) clearly not a cut and dried case of 'removing a word from the English language'. From what I can read Excite and Nestscape were using trademarked keywords to sell banner advertizing directly competitive to Playboy Inc. business interests and doing so using their TMs.

    "Linux" is TM to Linus Torvalds. The poster who thinks these judges decision is a "shame". I wonder if "Linux" were being used to drive search engine clients to Microsoft, Open/Free/NetBSD or whomever, would the politically correct (/.) views be different?

    And who's to say that the Judge who "got it right" the first time had a decent understanding of the issues, or didn't have an axe to grind vs the pornography industry. Possibly she can't see the TM on the pages the way it would appear if it were used in a print-advertisement, and ruled accordingly, while anyone understanding that 'content' now exists in code that's not visible.

    So it's pretty clear to me that yes PEI has a pretty good case here, that Excite, Netscape and their clients were profiting on PEI's TM's and that the use was commercial (i.e. it's much less of a free-speech issue - *yes* the rules for commercial speech are different). The article wasn't all that clear but it seems that all of this came about because Google was pro-actively seeking a judgement on it's own approach to TM's in search/advertising. Again no surprise here that Google would follow the letter of the law while Excite & Netscape would use a sleaze approach to gain revenues.

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  4. This is just the tip of the iceberg ... by jc42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    We might also note that the term "playmate" is being blatantly infringed by makers of toys, playground equipment, and publishers of elementary-education books and materials.

    It's only a matter of time before Playboy goes after them, too. So they should start introducing a new term now. Of course, it might be difficult to find a word (even a made-up word) that isn't already registered as a trademark.

    Of course, we should have known that the world had gone utterly insane when a court accepted Fox's suit against Al Franken over the phrase "fair and balanced". You might argue that Al won this one. But consider the implications of the fact that it even got into the courtroom, and the judge didn't just laugh and fine Fox for a frivolous filing.

    Bankrupting via court costs has indeed become a business plan.

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  5. Come on now... by tbase · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Does anyone believe for a second that the people placing ad buys on the terms playboy and playmate are not specifically trying to target people looking for Playboy Playmates? When a trademark is the same as a common word, shouldn't the determination be made based on intent? Maybe some users searching for "playboy" might mean the english term, but that's not who the advertisers are targeting. They are making money off a trademarked name, and as far as I'm concerned, that's wrong.

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  6. It's the machines that make the difference here by Dave21212 · · Score: 3, Insightful


    The judges got it wrong. These people are not selling a magazine called "Our Playboy" or anything that directly infringes. They are using the term to target people interested in that term.... Remember, these words are not being displayed to humans per se, but to MACHINES that index web pages.

    It's more like when a marketer uses a computer-generated list to target BMW owners in order to sell them expensive car products.

    Perfectly legal !@!!!

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  7. Some unbelievable cases: why the system fails by dexterpexter · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I believe that our entire patent, copyright, and trademark system has reached the point of ridiculous.

    Consider these examples from Overlawyered.com:

    Can you own common words? "In one of the broadest crackdowns ever issued against a domain name holder, a federal judge has ordered eReferee.com to stop using the word 'referee' in all of its domain names. ... In issuing the court ruling, Wisconsin federal [j]udge C.N. Clevert sided with Referee magazine, a periodical holding the trademark to the word 'referee' for the purposes of publication." David Post, an associate professor of law at Temple, called the ruling "unbelievable", saying that regardless of whether eReferee.com had violated trademark law, as was alleged, by using a logo confusingly similar to its rival's, "You just don't want to let someone own the word 'referee'". (Lisa M. Bowman, "Judge approves domain name penalty on eReferee", CNet, Feb. 16; Gretchen Schuldt, "Referee Enterprises Seeks to Halt Competitor from Using 'Referee' in Web Name", Milwaukee Journal Sentinel/Corporate Intelligence.com, Feb. 23).

    Using his own name a legal risk. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution's Bill Wyman shares his name with a somewhat well-known musician who played bass with the Rolling Stones. He was nonetheless unprepared when he received a letter from the musician's lawyer suggesting that he might be violating the other guy's rights by ... well, by going on using his own name (Bill Wyman, "Will the real Bill Wyman please tune up?", Atlanta Journal-Constitution

    "'Let's Roll' Trademark Battle Is On". Why'd she have to hire that lawyer? No sooner does the widow of Flight 93 hero Todd Beamer set up a foundation to honor his memory than its lawyer announces that he's having it apply for a trademark on the now-famous phrase "Let's Roll", so that anyone who wants to use the words on hats or t-shirts will have to fork over a royalty. Since September 11 numerous other individuals have also sought to copyright the phrase, although it was in common use before that date. (AP/Las Vegas Sun, Feb. 1)

    Someone might get confused. "Just when you think the battle over domain names and trademarks can get no more ridiculous, Pillsbury goes and ups the ante. Universities and companies as large as Sun Microsystems received cease-and-desist letters this week ordering engineers to stop holding what the [giant flour maker] considers illegal 'bake-offs.' But it's not as if the engineers are huddling together around the oven trading stolen recipes -- in techie lingo, a 'bake-off' is a get-together in which software programmers test their creations against network protocols to see if they will work correctly. ... No matter: The geeks are infringing on Pillsbury's 'bake-off trademark,' the letters argued." (Damien Cave, "Pillsbury Doughboy mauls techies", Salon, Jan. 20)(Slashdot thread)


    It is becoming ever more apparent that the entire system needs to be evaluated and rewritten. But, as easy as this is to blame on an outdated system, this case (the parent post) shows that even when a policy is in place, it will be abused and ignored. Perhaps before Trademarking anything, they should read their own Trademark policy or, in the case that they don't recognize playmate as an English word, perhaps they should spend a little time reviewing the dictionary.

    What next, Microsoft finally succeeding in Trademarking "Windows"??? Playboy goes after the children's toy industry because they unashamedly use the term "playmate" in many of its toys?

    It makes no matter that these advertisers were using the popularity of these words to boost their services. Capitalizing on things is not a crime. Especially when the terms they are capitalizing on are not trademarkable. If anyone

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  8. Not quite by Mattcelt · · Score: 1, Insightful

    1. For starters, you can't trademark a word in extremely common usage. Look what trouble MS had to go through to get the 'Windows' trademark.

    2. A company should not be allowed to appropriate a name in an industry where the name is synonymous or nearly so with the purpose of the product being sold. The common term 'playboy' has always (at least well before the magazine started publishing) been synonymous with women and sex. If the magazine had been called "Corkboard" or some other off-the-wall name which originally had nothing at all to do with women and sex, and had come to enjoy the synchronicity the magazine does today, it would be a different story - because the company is solely responsible for the creation of the association. Then, if Yahoo or whoever used "Corkboard" in their advertising for something having to do with women and sex, there would be a legitimate suit. This is not the case here; Playboy (the magazine) leveraged (and built upon) the existing connotation inherent in the term 'playboy', for which it deserves little or no protection, since it is not responsible for the association. Kleenex deserves protection - it had nothing to do with tissues until the company made it so. Playboy does not.

    I'm not saying this is the law - I'm saying this is how the law should be (IMO) interepreted based on the logic of trademarks. The original judge did get it right, though perhaps s/he didn't make enough of a distinction.

    1. Re:Not quite by 91degrees · · Score: 2, Insightful

      1. For starters, you can't trademark a word in extremely common usage. Look what trouble MS had to go through to get the 'Windows' trademark.

      Tell that to Ford - a motor company that's named after a shallow river crossing. Or one of their major rivals, General Motors, which has a purely descriptive name. Come to think of it, most brand names are in common usage. Try calling a movie studio Universal.

      A company should not be allowed to appropriate a name in an industry where the name is synonymous or nearly so with the purpose of the product being sold. The common term 'playboy' has always (at least well before the magazine started publishing) been synonymous with women and sex.

      Well, dictionary.com says it's a man devoted to the pursuoit of pleasure. The magazine "Playboy", has managed to redefine it so that it's more specifically about sex. The comapny is pretty much responsible for "the creation of the association."

      I'm not saying this is the law - I'm saying this is how the law should be (IMO) interepreted based on the logic of trademarks. The original judge did get it right, though perhaps s/he didn't make enough of a distinction.

      Why? Playboy has spent a lot of money from the beginning, in becoming a major porn mag. It has made the name its own. If people are searching for Playboy, they most likely mean Playboy magazine, and they are most likely not searching for a hedonist. They are after porn, and since Playboy has spent their money and efforts in making their name succesful, why should some other company be able to take advatntage of this brand recongition to peddle a competitor? Why can't they produce the same level of brand awareness?

      And when did "leverage" become a verb?

  9. What a surprise... by EmagGeek · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Way to go, 9th Circus Court of Appeals...

    I forget where I read it, but the 9th Circus is very frequently found to be completely incorrect by the Supreme Court. They are often ridiculed by legal scholars and other courts as being the biggest travesty to justice this country has ever seen.

    *sigh*

  10. Nuke the Ninth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals!!! by supervillain · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Ninth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals gets about 90% of its decisions overturned. Biased in Northern California they are exceptionally liberal/left-wing. Its too bad there is no way for the government to remove a court that makes bad decisions over and over. They are a waste of our tax money.