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64 Bit Athlon Notebooks Hit the Market

Omega1045 writes "Our friends at News.com.com.com are reporting that one of the first notebooks powered by the 64 bit Athlon will be made by (drumroll, please) eMachines. Slashdot has mentioned eMachines venture into 64 bit Athlon technology before. You also might note from this past press release that eMachines claims to be the 3rd biggest PC maker in the US. Hopefully this will have the dual effect of pushing the new chip into the market, and keeping it afforable of laptop junkies like me."

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  1. Upon hitting the market by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The heat from the laptop caused the market to catch fire, which at this time is still burning.

    1. Re:Upon hitting the market by ruiner5000 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Perhaps this would be funny if it was anyway true. G4 and P4 laptops generate far more heat than Athlon 64 laptops. And well, also Athlon 64 laptops have not just hit the market, they have been available for several months. This is only the first on available from a Tier 1 vendor, and also in Best Buy. Not to mention it was not CNet/ZDNet that broke this news. It was www.AMDZone.com.

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  2. good for everyone by ArgumentBoy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't have much need for a 64 bit laptop, but I welcome this because it will naturally drive down the prices of what I might actually buy. Way to go, eMachines.

    1. Re:good for everyone by hendridm · · Score: 5, Informative

      > I don't have much need for a 64 bit laptop

      I think I could find something to do with it. 64-bit, 802.11g, USB2 and Firewire, vertical scroller (essential!), and my favorite: a built-in 6-in-1 media reader. The price is right too. Mmmmm... I don't like AMD stuff, but this thing could quickly make me a convert.

    2. Re:good for everyone by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It comes with Win XP...can XP do anything 64 bit??

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    3. Re:good for everyone by bhtooefr · · Score: 3, Informative

      15.4", 1280x800? You don't seem to understand that that is the industry standard for widescreen laptops.

      ATI Mobility Radeon 9600? The only thing higher than it in the Mobility line is one with twice the RAM, which gets the name Mobility Radeon 9600 Pro. (Voodoo didn't actually know WHAT a 9600 Pro was at the time that they called theirs a Pro - nobody did - but it is really the exact same thing as what's in this eMachines)

      512MB RAM? My school runs XP on 128, and it's still snappier than Damn Small Linux on 96. 512 is plenty for the average user.

      AC-97 Audio? Sure, it's only capable of 2.1 sound, but when a laptop only has 2.0, and those speakers suck (I've read that the m:855's speakers suck ass), do you really need a high end sound card?

      Paying more than $1550? Why? Voodoo's box has a pretty paint job, a DVD burner, and a 15" 1400x1050 (IMHO, that's painfully small) (on top of what the eMachines offers), for OVER $1000 more.

    4. Re:good for everyone by Eminence · · Score: 5, Funny

      It comes with Win XP...can XP do anything 64 bit??

      From their home page:

      • eMachines recommends Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP

      I guess it does. They wouldn't recommend it if it was a bunch of crap, wouldn't they?

    5. Re:good for everyone by addaon · · Score: 4, Funny

      I think I could find something to do with it

      From linked site: Weighs 7.5 lbs/1.5" thin

      Me too. It would make a good foundation for a bird house.

      If you house albatross.

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    6. Re:good for everyone by isorox · · Score: 3, Funny

      Almost, for the last 4 years Microsoft have been porting the most common features of 32 bit windows to a 64 bit platform. The lastest beta of XP64 can BSOD at twice the speed

    7. Re:good for everyone by Coryoth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Actually I'm holding out for IBM to make a nice PPC970 laptop with Linux pre-installed. That could be very nice indeed.

      Surely such a thing has to be coming - it would be the ultimate biochem/math/physics/engineer laptop, a community that already uses linux quite widely, and would actually appreciate and know what to 64bits.

      Jedidiah.

    8. Re:good for everyone by phoenix_rizzen · · Score: 3, Informative

      Not yet. But, the Athlon64 running in 32-bit mode is still faster than the fastest AthlonXP and gives the fastest P4 a run for its money.

      Plus, all it takes to gain full 64-bit support is a re-install with a 64-bit aware OS. Gotta love when updating a piece of software gives you access to even more of the hardware.

  3. price by rogabean · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Quote:
    "Hopefully this will have the dual effect of pushing the new chip into the market, and keeping it afforable of laptop junkies like me."

    This is the only part I can see as a plus to this. However I would take a guess that it will do little to the latter, in that most companies know E-Machines general reputation with the people who would be first in line to buy a 64 bit laptop, so I don't forsee that they will try to compete with E-Machines in the price category for some time.

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    1. Re:price by garcia · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You know, for all the bad things that I hear about e-machines I can't find a single problem with the one I have been using since 11/2002. It has been up, without fail, running Linux since that day (only down for routine kernel upgrades).

      Sure it was cheap, came with a bunch of crap I didn't really need, but it was a gift and it works fine.

      The people who are going to be first in line to purchase a 64bit laptop are going to purchase an e-machine because that's who's offering it currently. I don't see Dell coming out saying they are, do you? In fact, I have better success with my e-machine than I did with my Dell laptop. After dealing with Dell for that particular machine I will *never* *ever* buy from them again.

      I would go with the e-machine without a hesitation.

    2. Re:price by Bombcar · · Score: 5, Funny
      Just like Chevy vs. Ford it all comes down to personal experience with a product.


      Yup, and in both cases the right choice is neither.

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  4. Hurray by Sarojin · · Score: 5, Funny

    for 30 minutes of 64 bit computing

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    1. Re:Hurray by jo_ham · · Score: 4, Funny

      and a toasty warm genital region.

    2. Re:Hurray by JonTurner · · Score: 5, Funny

      >>and a toasty warm genital region.

      "There's been some misunderstanding," said the man at the return counter. "I said I wanted a computer with a compact DISK burner."

      ba-da ching! Thankyouverymuch.

  5. I think eMachines gets a bad rap by ilsie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The only experience I've ever had with eMachines are two systems- one was my sisters' old P-166 machine- it lasted for 3 years without a hitch, till I blew it up by trying to put Win98 onto it (long time ago :)

    The other one is one of those widescreen eMachines Athlon laptops- my friend bought it a while back- it's a really solidly made machine that has had no problems so far. YMMV

    1. Re:I think eMachines gets a bad rap by SacredNaCl · · Score: 4, Informative

      I've had good experiences with them as far as reliability. I still have a 500is that runs fine, it's been abused in nearly every way possible and upgraded as much as it can possibly be upgraded without throwing in a powerleap kit. Many of the upgrades were listed as not possible in the service manual, but http://e4all.info/ has more information (on older ones) and the upgraders forum has a lot of people that have tried everything they can to make them still useable beyond their years. Most of the older ones can at least be upgraded to 512MB with very careful ram selection. That has kept the old 500is useable, even if it is slow. It's perfectly fine as another box to have up to surf the web and what-not. I have some even slower hardware taking care of other task as well.;-)

      There are many things that were cheap in a lot of their older (and still in their present) models. (A lot of them are the typical things that the big makers skimp on. Severely under rated power supplies, proprietary power supplies, POS modems that have no excuse for existing in any machine, if they come with a network card replace it with something else, ram modules that may or may not be worth keeping [though they seem to be getting away from the awful ram they were putting in a few years ago]... These are not severe issues in most of them, but the proprietary power supplies in them are a pain to work around if you are going to cram a mess of drives in them. Don't expect Emachines to give you a pin out for the power supply either.) I've not known anyone who had one of their laptops though.
      The biggest disppointment with Emachines is *support*. The one thing that you may have trouble with is getting support for new OS's that comes out down the road. Emachines is somewhat unreliable about supporting their hardware beyond the OS it was shipped with. This can be very bad news in a laptop, and it can be awful news if you ever have to have your laptop worked on for warranty work.

      I haven't heard the kind of horror stories I've heard about Compaq laptops in terms of getting them worked on, but based on my experiences with them ...it's still a gamble on future OS's.

      It's very hard to top Compaq for the worst possible hardware, worst possible support, worst ownership experience, worst batch of proprietary hardware...in "consumer grade" products. Emachines is well above that fold for the price range they are in. Even with the corners they cut, it's never going to be as unpleasant as that to own one. For the price range they are in, they are decent enough.

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  6. Good. by cK-Gunslinger · · Score: 4, Interesting


    I'm glad to see some OEMs going away from the relatively expensive, and in the case of the Celeron, weak Intel architecture. You can build a heck of a General-Purpose / Gaming / Development machine based on AMD CPUs for next to nothing. You can easily put together an AMD64 3000+ / Radeon 9600 / 19" monitor system for under a grand.

    I hope to see more PC makers go this route. Diversity is good. Now, if they would start considering alternate OSes as well...

  7. Re:Regarding "desktop-replacement" by W32.Klez.A · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This comment is a direct repost of this one.

  8. Battery by Mieckowski · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It has a "high-capacity 8-cell LiIon battery." Still, no mention of batter life in the specs. Hmm, I wonder why?

  9. Heat and power? by ducomputergeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've been working with 64-bit chips since 1998 (DEC ALPHA systems and now G5's) and there has always been problems with heat and power. What's the battery life going to be on one of these machine?

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  10. Great, but should I wait before going 64 bit? by Wingit · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I live in a Pentium 350 world and home and have been limping along, quite happily actually. I admin a Win2K network at work so keep one foot planted there, and have been learning and living on a steady diet of Linux the rest of the time. While eMachines don't thrill me, I am thinking more and more that I should postpone any upgrades until I can truly dive into the 64 bit world. I realize I will be stuck running plenty of 32 bit applications, but is my wait worthwhile? I am really getting the itch to get into serious gaming again but (obviously) my current system is not up to much more than the Ultima Online I played for 5 years. Perhaps this question fit better as an Ask Slashdot question, but I didn't feel it was worthy to stand on its own so I welcom your comments.

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  11. eMachines laptop? gross! by Monkey · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not everybody shopping for a 64 bit notebook would buy something cheesy like an eMachines laptop.
    VoodooPC has been selling their high end m:855 for some time now. Based on the Athlon 64, it also has ATI Mobility 9600 Graphics Pro chipset.

  12. Not impressive by Mieckowski · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bah, I'm going to hold out for a dual 64 bit laptop. With a RAID array.

  13. Re:Regarding "desktop-replacement" by cK-Gunslinger · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Yet for all those "advantages" there are just as many disadvantages. Ever try typing a *lot* of information on a laptop? They are just not typically ergonomic enough for extended typing use. At least not compared to a "natural-type" keyboard. Then there is screen size. Call me insane, but I happen to like my 21" of crisp CRT goodness. No 15" LCD is going to quite match it. The list can go on.

    The point being, yes, for some a laptop can replace a desktop, but not so for others. Almost all the reasons you gave could be an argument for *both* a desktop and a laptop (with wireless card.)

  14. VoodooPC already has one by obsid1an · · Score: 3, Informative

    VoodooPC has been doing this for over three months already.

  15. hypersonic has been selling one as well for a whil by Siniset · · Score: 3, Informative

    hypersonic pc has been selling one for a while as well. They seem to be pretty decent machines, might by one with my tax refund. -siniset

  16. What's the warranty? by phr1 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Laptops, especially bleeding-edge ones that run hot, have a high failure rate. I've owned about 6 laptops in the post-Pentium era (earlier ones ran cooler and were more reliable) and four of them have needed warranty repair after more than a year of service. With a 1-year warranty I'd have been SOL. With a 3-year warranty, you're more covered, and the machine is almost obsolete after that long anyway, so it's time for an upgrade if it breaks. These days, only higher priced laptops tend to come with 3 year warranties any more, probably because the failure rate is known to be so high.

    I guess if this eMachines thing has a 1-year warranty you can get an "extended" warranty from Best Buy for a few hundred bucks more. I'd definitely advise doing that. But it means you have to figure it into the price of the machine.

  17. I've said it before, I'll say it again by Theatetus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    eMachines are just a crappy as Dells or Gateways but you avoid the brand tax with them. Unlike Dell and Gateway, eMachines doesn't pretend it's selling you some top of the line system but is honest about the fact that you're getting the house Chianti, as it were.

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  18. Houston, we have a problem: XP Home? by jerkychew · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Looks like this laptop comes with XP Home installed. Now, I'm no expert, but does XP Home even support a 64-bit proc? I know it'll at least run in 32-bit mode, but what's the point? If your OS can't deal with the newer instructions, why not just get a 32-bit Athlon at a higher clock speed?

    I looked on MS's XP Home system requirements page, and it makes no mention of 64-bit support - XP 64-bit version looks like a totally different product.

  19. Re:1280x800 ... WHY?! by tugrul · · Score: 3, Funny

    Call me naive but, if that's what you want, why not buy a dell?

    I have one. Its 2.5 years old with a 1600x1200 LCD. Its shoddy build quality has put it out of service though. I need to summon the energy to get it through tech support's head that the note to "update my video drivers" from the last time I sent it in has nothing to do with the laptop not turning on.

    No more Dell.

  20. I have an EMachines laptop.... by tinrobot · · Score: 3, Informative

    I think it's the M305 or something. It was the first one they offered. Bought it at Best Buy for about $1000. Had better graphics and more memory than the others in the price range, which is why I bought it in the first place.

    So far, it's been a trooper. It's rock solid and reliable, battery life is good. It's also fairly thin and easy to handle. I like the widescreen a lot, as it makes the whole laptop less deep (every inch counts when you fly coach.)

    I love it. If this one ever gives out, I'd buy the 64 bit one in a second.

  21. Re:Dell -- it is all about the warranty by Jeremy+Erwin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    With Dell you get a three year 24 hour warranty. While Dell has never serviced my laptop warranty claims within 24 hours, they often get them within 48.

    So Dell promises, but it can't deliver. Interesting.