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Exchange Rates Play With Online Music Prices

EconolineCrush writes "Those looking to purchase songs online may find that the price of music downloads varies quite a bit from country to country. Most vendors seem to be favoring 0.99/track pricing schemes, but $0.99CDN is worth quite a bit less than 0.99 British Pounds. When indexed to the US dollar, Canadians using Puretracks are getting a bargain with tracks costing only $0.76US, while UK residents using Coke's new music store are getting ripped off at nearly $1.80US per song. iTunes and Wal Mart sit between the two, with tracks selling for $0.99 and $0.88, respectively."

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  1. Seems to reflect CD pricing bias by Humba · · Score: 5, Informative
    A quick check shows this may not be out-of-line with current CD pricing around the world.

    While CD-prices differ widely in comparison - at 1996 exchange rates, a normal CD cost

    below US-$ 16.00 in the USA

    US-$ 14.00 in Canada

    US-$ 25.00 in Japan

    US-$ 23.00 in Germany

    US-$ 24.00 in the UK

    Source

    Note, the data is indeed eight years old. (jeeze, was 1996 that long ago?) Pardon the US bias, but this still seems to reflect what I understand are current retail prices.

    --H

    1. Re:Seems to reflect CD pricing bias by big_groo · · Score: 3, Informative
      Remember, in Canada, we pay more for the media.

    2. Re:Seems to reflect CD pricing bias by JFMulder · · Score: 3, Informative

      US-$ 14.00 in Canada
      That would be canadian dollars, not american ones. I even bought a new CD 4 months ago at 12.99CAN$

    3. Re:Seems to reflect CD pricing bias by quantaman · · Score: 4, Informative

      The economist just added a Starbuck's tall latte index (a purchasing-power parity test) similar to their Big Mac Index. How long will it be until they add an "mp3 index"?

      Both the tall latte index and the Big Mac index show that the Canadian dollar is undervalued compared to the US dollar (which means that we get things cheaper here!). Sweet.


      Note that both those products you're paying mostly for service. We earn similar pay as in the US except the dollars we earn are worth less, as a result when we pay for something that can be sold on either side of the border (like a computer) than we pay more of our dollars than americans, if on the other hand we are paying for something that requires local service (like a Big Mac) we pay about the same number of dollars because the workers are being paid in the same CADs that we are paying.

      So we don't really get things cheaper up here, we make less and occasionally pay less.

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    4. Re:Seems to reflect CD pricing bias by martinX · · Score: 3, Informative

      Add to that US-$ 22.50 here in Australia.

      Where are you shopping? Sanity? At JB Hi Fi or WOW Sight and Sound (latest catalogue: new releases <AUS$20) you can pick up most CDs for AUS$20 - $22, which at current exchange rates (go Aussie dollar GO!) is about US$15 - $17.

      I only hope that when the iTunes Music Store FINALLY gets here, tracks will be no more that AUS$1.50.

      1 AUD = 0.758268 USD; 1 USD = 1.31880 AUD

      FWIW, I think AUS$100+ for a game is a ripoff. Last game I bought was UT.

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    5. Re:Seems to reflect CD pricing bias by chronus22 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, most Brits I know understand that they are massively ripped off as a country, with respect to almost every commodity.

      This feeling is unavoidably amplified if they've spent any time abroad.

      As a result, Brits who are in somewhat uncomfortable financial cirumstances (e.g. students) spend little money on things like CDs and games, because they simply can't afford it.

      --from an American studying in Britain

  2. Finally... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Informative

    A plus side for having the EUR > US

  3. Currency by HappyCitizen · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'd think that the online vender's would change price based on currency. I mean, sure they get great extra money from Britan, but they are getting themselves ripped off from Canada. I mean really, Britian is getting ripped off. Someone should have done something by now.

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  4. AllofMP3.com by jea6 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Russia's entry into online music: 1000 tracks, $14.95 per month OR a penny per megabit. Feels slimy but generally agreed to be legit.

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    1. Re:AllofMP3.com by athakur999 · · Score: 2, Informative

      You can now use Paypal to fund your account there as well, for an extra margin of safety (they won't have your credit card number to run around with).

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  5. How is this news? by jfdawes · · Score: 2, Informative

    How is this news? People do realise that the price for petrol/gas is Europe is much higher than the U.S? That a reasonable dinner in a restaurant in Australia will cost you about $15US, which is really $10US or so? (But you don't get free refills)

    The article doesn't even bother telling us how much a CD costs in the UK or in Canada. Without adding relevant information it's just more noise.

    Here, random link with useful comparison info: some cruddy commercial store

  6. No bargin in Canada... fees fees fees by westcourt_monk · · Score: 3, Informative

    Sure the exchange rate might give Canadians a bit of a deal but the extra 'fees' on blank media we pay makes it so we pay twice or three times for the music. Recently there have been $25 fees added to ipods and the ilk but downloading was also decided to be legal in Canada but uploading is not. CD-R's went up in price a couple times as well with the money going to the recording industry. Who would be silly enough to pay to download in Canada when the Canadian RIAA already has us paying since everyone already downloads for free according to them.

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  7. Sigh...back to gNutella by big_groo · · Score: 1, Informative

    Thank you for visiting Puretracks.com

    Currently our website supports Internet Explorer 5.0 and above on the
    Windows operating system (Win 98SE / ME / 2000 / XP / 2003),
    and is available to Canadian residents only.

    We value our Mac audience, however the Windows Media player for the Mac
    platform is not currently compatible with Microsoft protected audio content.
    Puretracks is currently working to make our service available to Mac users.

  8. Two concepts by Knights+who+say+'INT · · Score: 4, Informative

    The _current_ exchange rates and the _theoretical_ exchange rates are quite different. The current exchange rates are either determined in financial markets or by governments, according to the conditions of the international payment balance.

    The theoretical exchange rate is commonly called a PPP (power of purchase parity) exchange rate, and is evaluated by comparing the cost of simmilar baskets of products in different countries.

    This can be tricky, as seldom the very same product exists all over the world - and if it does, the costs involved can be very different because of relative prices. "The Economist" often publishes the Big Mac Index, which attempts to estimate the theoretical (PPP) exchange rate comparing the prices of Big Macs all over the world - since it's a product that's pretty much the same everywhere and involves the same costs.

    When current exchange rates are unbalanced, there's a strong effect over the importation/exportation ratio. In Brazil, during the mid-90's, US$ 1 was approximately R$ 1, which was totally insane in PPP terms. It was a time during which everyone bought imported goods insanely, and travelled a lot abroad - while people coming to Brazil, specially from other latin american countries, could barely afford a can of coke. That happened because the government wanted to control inflation - and it pretty much worked. But after a while, it lead to a major financial crisis, because there weren't any dollars to pay the importation - exportation balance, and they had to let the dollar rate fluctuate in the financial markets.

    If one was to do a very extensive PPP research that took into comparison prices like this, perhaps some of these distortions will be elliminated. But then again, there's the "just under 1 buck" factor. In any case, this should serve as a big caveat when comparing cost of living in different countries.

  9. Re:Just out of curiosity by beckett · · Score: 3, Informative

    At least for the Itunes Music Store, you have the option to buy the whole album for one price, usually 9.99, but i've seen them upto $16.99.

    you're also charged about $20 and up for audiobooks, which are hours and hours long.

  10. Legit? by JumperCable · · Score: 3, Informative

    Feels slimy but generally agreed to be legit.

    What do you mean by legit? Do you mean, they won't steal our credit card numbers (p.s. AmerExpress & Discover allow for 1 time use only credit card numbers), or do you mean that this sale of music is 100% legal in russian and there is nothing the RIAA can do about this (until they pay someone off)?

    From their website under "legal":
    "All the materials in the MediaServices projects are available for distribution through Internet according to license # LS-3I-03-79 of the Russian Multimedia and Internet Society. Under the license terms, MediaServices pays license fees for all the materials subject to the Law of the Russian Federation "On Copyright and Related Rights". All the materials are available solely for personal use and must not be used for further distribution, resale or broadcasting. Users are held liable for the use and distribution of the MediaServices site information materials according to local legislation."

    1. Re:Legit? by miTTio · · Score: 1, Informative
      While it doesn't asnwer the question about legal in the US of A; from their site:

      All the materials in the MediaServices projects are available for distribution through Internet according to license # LS-3-03-79 of the Russian Multimedia and Internet Society. Under the license terms, MediaServices pays license fees for all the materials subject to the Law of the Russian Federation "On Copyright and Related Rights". All the materials are available solely for personal use and must not be used for further distribution, resale or broadcasting.

      Users are held liable for the use and distribution of the MediaServices site information materials according to local legislation.


      Also during registration, United States is listed on the country pulldown box. Just observations. ::shrugs::
    2. Re:Legit? by JumperCable · · Score: 2, Informative

      Found this under "Terms of Usage":
      "You agree with the fact that you are not able to use and even to download audio and video materials from Allofmp3.com catalogue if it is in the conflict with legislation of your country. Allofmp3.com Administration is unable to control all Allofmp3.com users, therefore the users are responsible for usage of the materials represented on the Site."

      Of course that still doesn't answer my question of if this is still legal for a US citizen. I am sure the RIAA would not like it, but is it legal?

  11. Stop me before I post again by MichaelCrawford · · Score: 2, Informative
    You need to read Links to Tens of Thousands of Legal Music Downloads.

    He asked, really he did!

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  12. Re:How funny by Herr_Nightingale · · Score: 3, Informative

    I think he's talking about the ridiculous proposition of paying for distorted, crippled music - paying, please observe, at the current rate for pristine CD-quality music on CD, yet lacking the CD itself, and the attendant artwork, lyrics, etc. that one would generally receive with purchase of the original CD.

    I pity those who pay for WMA-garbled music and think they're getting a deal. I pity them further if they live in Canada, where downloading music for free is still legal.
    Here's how I see it: if you like the music enough, and care about quality enough, you'll get the CD. If you like the music and don't particularly care about quality, then you can either pay for it and download from the WMA-vendors (rather dumb, IMHO) or P2P it.
    Here in Canada we pay the royalties up front when we buy recordable media or portable music players. Downloading copyrighted content was ruled to be completely legal. As somebody who doesn't download much music, I've overpaid royalties on hundreds of CD-R's that I've used for my personal data - I've paid and received nothing at all in exchange.

    Your American recording industry association is the reason that Canadians pay an extra 29% for recordable media. Legally, that's about forty steps closer to theft than any amount of copyright infringement could ever be.

  13. Online music isn't the only thing ... by deek · · Score: 2, Informative


    I'm in the market for a digital camera. I've been looking at the Sony F828, but the retail price here in Australia is $2599. In the US, it's $999. Converted to $AUS, that's $1315. That's almost half price!!

    Even factoring in postage and import duty, the price will only rise another $200. The price differential is really shocking. The only downside to ordering from the US direct, is the warranty isn't valid here. I'd have to ship it back to the US to get it fixed.

    dave

  14. Re:URL of store in Japan, Mexico, or Italy please? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    Go to any market in the south of Mexico. You can get burned a CD from almost any band from around the world for between 15-40 pesos. (Around 1.5-4.0 dollars) Some even have nice art stamped on the CD. In those places it's impossible to find a legal CD.

    Also, the selection they have puts to shame any store. Yep, it's illegal and the police destroys tons of CD's once every few months but people there are more concerned with poverty, crime and soccer.

  15. Re:MusicRebellion.com? by Phroggy · · Score: 2, Informative

    I just looked at Arcanum by Acoustic Alchemy (it was near the top alphabetically and I've liked what I've heard of the group before); each track is $0.90 and the album is $8.60. iTMS is $0.99/track and $9.99/album, so that's $1.39 cheaper, but as another poster complained, it's WMA.

    Be the first to rate this album!

    So um, the price goes up with demand?

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  16. Re:How funny by Fnkmaster · · Score: 2, Informative

    You mean like this?

  17. The deal with AllofMP3.com / Weblisten by blorg · · Score: 3, Informative
    The alleged deal with allofmp3.com is the same as with the Spanish WebListen. Both operate on the system of compulsory licensing, and have signed deals with the artists/publishers associations in their respective countries. These organisations (ASCAP and BMI in the US) are separate from the record industry associations (RIAA).

    Effectively these services operate like radio stations, and pay over a certain amount, either per track downloaded, or a flat fee negotiated, to these organisations. The general consensus is that they are legal in their home countries (and for Weblisten, presumably in all of the EU). I believe that Weblisten has been sued by the Spanish RIAA-equivalent but has prevailed. Weblisten has been around for 6 years, and allofmp3.com for 2 years, so one would expect that they would be gone by now if they were not legit.

    You can find a good third-party review here - he also received a confirmation email from the Russian copyright organisation confirming allofmp3.com's legitimacy.

    I've been signed up to allofmp3.com for a while and had no problems with my credit card, although I've always used a 'one use' number. Customer support is quick and efficient; they've responded within minutes to my queries. There doesn't seem to be any recurring billing either, you just sign up for a fixed term.

    They allow online encoding into MP3/AAC/WMA/OGG/MPC but this is taking quite a while at the moment (in the queue for several days rather than only minutes) - presumably due to this mention on Slashdot. Your order is transcoded from 384k mp3 files rather than the uncompressed originals. This hasn't bothered me, but audiophiles might take issue.