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The Amazing Properties of Aerogel

RideMax writes "We all know NASA is using a substance called 'aerogel' in the Stardust spacecraft to catch pieces of the Wild-2 comet. The NYT is running an article about some other amazing aerogel properties. My favorite quote: 'It's the lowest density of any solid, and it has the highest thermoinsulation properties. Though it would be very expensive, you could take a two- or three-bedroom house, insulate it with aerogel, and you could heat the house with a candle. But eventually the house would become too hot.'" We've looked at Aerogel before.

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  1. Amazing stuff... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

    I think Mr. Kelley has done a masterful job describing modern day industrial design in terms and examples we can all relate to. He makes it clear why innovation in our high tech world is as much art as science. And why his company delivers 'marketable products' for their clients and not 'products looking for a market'. I think there are lessons here for a wide spectrum of engineers, marketeers, and anybody responsible for a (successful!) product or service coming to market. The book is interesting and fun to read.

  2. Too much by phorm · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Though it would be very expensive, you could take a two- or three-bedroom house, insulate it with aerogel, and you could heat the house with a candle.

    Seems to me that in this case, having a few lights left on or PC with a hot CPU left running would quickly make things uncomfortable

    What if it was only used to certain walls where leakage was most common?

    1. Re:Too much by GoRK · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Don't forget that the ultimate "between two windowpanes" insulation would simply be to create a vacuum between them. Even aerogel can't beat that.

      In practical use; however, it would be better since it would last longer. I wonder though how it would stand up to the light and IR bombarding it though..

    2. Re:Too much by fucksl4shd0t · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The problem is ventilation. Even apart from the issue that you'd suffocate, houses that are too insulated are almost guaranteed get mold problems. You need a constant airflow, and that's where you get the major heat loss.

      THe solution is refrigeration. :) I posted this elsewhere, but decided to come back and respond to you where it would be more useful. ;)

      You need an intake baffle and an exhaust baffle. ON the intake baffle you put a condensor and on the exhaust baffle you put an evaporator. Pump freon through the system, of course. You also need fans to keep the air flow going properly.

      So, freon evaporates in the evaporator, sucking up heat from the air that is being blown out of the house. Then it gets pumped and compressed over to the condensor, where it it condenses into liquid and dumps its heat, right into the air blowing into the house. The heat is kept in the house that way.

      Now, I realize the goal is energy-efficiency, and adding another refrigerator to your electric bill probably isn't energy-efficient, but it's my opinion that there's a solution to the efficient problems of air conditioning, I just haven't spent a lot of time on it--yet. :)

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    3. Re:Too much by sweede · · Score: 2, Interesting

      check out the last thing on this page,

      http://www.aerogel.com/technology2.htm

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    4. Re:Too much by F34nor · · Score: 2, Interesting

      In Qubec they do use Aerogel windows that are layered glass and Aerogel. A single pane window is as good an insulator as a moden three pane getup. Why only in Qubec? Qubec hydro makes a lot of money and every watt they save to export to the US is another dollar.

    5. Re:Too much by caffeineboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I saw an interesting plan that was designed to help this;

      Essentially, they were causing a natural convection in the house with a trombe wall with a vent window at the top that could be opened and closed to control temperature. In combination with this they were drawing outside air through ventilator tubes buried in the earth near the house. This was supposed to "earth temper" the air to ~68F before it entered the house - cool in winter, hot in summer.

      They also mentioned that the louvered windows could be made automatic with a system of balances using fluids with appropriate boiling points (like the drinky-bird from the 70s).

      I wonder how well this actually works?

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    6. Re:Too much by huie · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There are things call Heat Recovery Ventilators and Energy Recovery Ventilators that exchange inside and outside air and heat (let in outside air while bringing it to inside temperatures while exhausting the inside air). Basically they're just heat exchangers. Some even match humidity levels (forget which- HRV or ERV's- go ahead an look them up yourself, there are a number of companies that make them)

      I believe these only need a fan (or two) and no heat pump- more efficient and achieves the same thing.

  3. Aerogel Facts and a Picture by dekashizl · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Some facts, from JPL Aerogel site:
    • It is 99.8% Air
    • Provides 39 times more insulating than the best fiberglass insulation
    • Is 1,000 times less dense than glass
    • Was used on the Mars Pathfinder rover
    And a cool picture of aerogel in somebody's hand.

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  4. Likenesses to other successes by NeuralAbyss · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Seems like quite a few successes are discovered by mistake.. in this instance, finding a rejected material from nuclear testing.

  5. balsa wood in the right structure can do as much.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It also has incredible compressive strength. "It can take 2,000 times its body weight without damage," Dr. Tsou said. NASA's Web site shows a 2-gram cube of aerogel (less than 0.1 ounce) supporting a 2.5-kilogram brick (about 5.5 pounds).

    That particular example doesn't seem that impressive, I used to build balsa wood structures that would hold over 600 lbs(~270kg), with only 15 grams of balsa wood and glue, with strict rules on how it could be built. The world record is somewhere in the 1500 lb mark with a similar weight of wood.

  6. Re:balsa wood in the right structure can do as muc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Nobody cares about your Odyssey of the Mind days. That ratio is actually pretty impressive for a solid material...imagine what it could hold if it used physics such as trusses and lamination, like you did.

  7. Are prices coming down? by Kjella · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I heard of Aerogel long ago, but I assume the issue is the same as then - price. Is it getting better, or is it still for those really really extreme projects only? It's cool in the same way superconductors are, but you don't get to play around with them...

    Kjella

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  8. Re:R-factor? by dekashizl · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Not sure if all Aerogels are created equally, but this is from 1999 NASA article on Aerogel:
    "A single one-inch thick windowpane of silica aerogel is equivalent to the insulation provided by 20 windowpanes of glass (R-20 insulation factor)."

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  9. my god... by ruebarb · · Score: 5, Interesting

    let me get this straight....virtually unbelieveable insulation at the coldest of temperatures...creating super greenhouses/habitats and so forth...

    improves the desalination of seawater plants a thousand fold...

    my god....all we have to do is find a cheap or easier way to produce (like we do with virtually everything in the world in the free enterprise system) and we can offer virtually energy free habitats (excess heat can be channelled into electronics and solar can pick up the rest) - as well as a cheap water supply for the world...

    christ...someone get me some chemists and a few venture capitalists.....this is incredible... - and it's real and now...not like those carbon nanofibers people want to use to create space elevators...

    pax
    RB

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    1. Re:my god... by Znork · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "Imagine if your house were perfectly insulated, then you would only need to suck out the heat added by the things inside it (200W per person, another 200W per computer)."

      Well, and the CO2. And the water vapour. And whatever toxics that leak in miniscule amounts from materials inside.

      You dont have to imagine it, it's been tried. It was found to profoundly suck, as people got sick and the houses molded or rotted.

      The technology for building houses with perfect insulation has been here for a long time. Unfortunately, the problem isnt the insulation anymore, the problem is the ventilation. But come up with a highly efficient and cheap heat exchanger system and you could solve that too :).

    2. Re:my god... by crow · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Yes, but current houses are far more leaky than they need to be. I would love to have perfect insulation under the floors and in the ceilings. Even if we had it in the walls, the windows probably leak enough to provide sufficient ventilation.

    3. Re:my god... by Indras · · Score: 4, Interesting

      all we have to do is find a cheap or easier way to produce

      A friend of mine said that the reason aerogel has the light bluish tint to it is that the crystal structure does not form perfectly due to earth's gravity. Aerogel made in zero-G should, in theory, be completely clear.

      Now, if we added a module to the ISS to make transparent aerogel, the ISS would fund itself! I mean, think about it... with how much it costs per cubic inch of the tinted stuff, and the fact that the ISS would have a monopoly on all transparent aerogel produced, you could charge practically whatever you wanted, and sell it to governments around the world.

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  10. It is subject to shattering, catasrophically by dstone · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The article doesn't touch on it, but the NASA FAQ mentions this unique property...

    Q: What happens if I touch it?

    A: Silica aerogel is semi-elastic because it returns to its original form if slightly deformed. If further deformed, a dimple will be created. However, if the elastic limit is exceeded, it will shatter catastrophically, like glass.

    1. Re:It is subject to shattering, catasrophically by fo0bar · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I ordered a vile of aerogel fragments on ebay, and it arrived yesterday. And I can tell you this: yes, it shatters easily, but it all has to do with size ratios. Aerogel can support up to 1000 times its own weight. When you're dealing with a 6x6x1" piece, it can certainly hold up a brick like in the photos you see. But when you're dealing with a fragment the size of a grain of rice, the force of a set of tweezers claming too hard is definitely more than 1000 times its weight. The result is, well, shattering.

    2. Re:It is subject to shattering, catasrophically by Sepper · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm pretty sure the same can be said of almost ANY 'fragile' material. In general, the material that does not deform was passed elastisity limit (ie: absord excess energy), will break pass that point. They are usually MORE resistant to pressure, but will shatter on shocks, Because a single point get to the breaking limit and the crack formed ripple through the structure.

      Example: I'm sure we could easely place a car or truck on a couple of bottle of beer, yet the same bottles could break with a simple 2 meters (6 feet) drop.

      Another exemple: That's why cars defrom in accidents: You WANT them to do that because they absord (part of) the energy of the impact instead of YOU. It's especially true in the case of the safety belt...

      Ayone can comment on this? It's been AT LEAST 4 years since I did my materials classe...

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  11. Re:balsa wood in the right structure can do as muc by Quixote · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Here is brick-on-aerogel picture. Looks quite cool.

  12. Photos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Some cool shots.

    1. Re:Photos by Aggrajag · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Is it just me but those pictures look like really crappy Photoshop jobs, don't they?

  13. What people don't know about aerogel by state*less · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Here's a nerdy factiod about aerogel that might help your processor speed.

    There has been some close research into using substances like aerogel to improve processor speeds. Apparently the substances can be used as very efficient insulators between traces and components. This is because aerogel and substances like it are mostly made of air, which has a very high dielectric constant so aerogel itself is a very good insulator.

    It's better described here

    1. Re:What people don't know about aerogel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Well, in terms of dielectric constants, air has a very low dielectric constant and is very near to that of a vacuum which has a dielectric constant of exactly 1. There are few (if any and that is arguable) substances with a dielectric constant less than 1. Anyway, you want low or high dielectric constants depending on the application inside the chip. Low or High of course being relative to SiO2.

    2. Re:What people don't know about aerogel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      That's odd, considering that super capacitors (i.e. > 1 Farad) are about the only commercial use of Aerogel that I can think of.

  14. more on aerogel by movefaster · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I have a friend who works on this. Here is a NASA newspaper article on her work; here is her website, showing aerogel in many different configurations. If you want to know more about it, you could always drop her a line.

    While I'm sure aerogel has many pracitcal uses (trying not to fall asleep here), the "cool" factor is also very high. I've seen some of her samples, and everything the article says is correct. It's so light it feels like the wind could take it; in fact, if you drop it in water, I think it dissolves. Since the material is so expensive, it's obviously something you don't want to do, since every last piece is precious.

    As you might imagine, a material that's ultra-light and 'holographic' has artistic applications, too. The "brain" image made it onto the cover of Nature neuroscience, and wouldn't look out of place in a design magazine. When you see it up close, the image seems to be 'embedded' in the material, even though it's so light you could easily crush it with your hand. The airiness and delicacy of the material makes the image that much more striking.

    While we're all attuned to the utilitarian value of materials like this, it's always neat to see what people outside of engineering can do with them.

  15. More miracle heating/cooling by arrianus · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For those of you who like stupid science tricks/supercheap climate control, here's a trick for how to heat and cool a house without using any energy (outside of what's free from the Sun):

    First, some background on black body radiation. All matter radiates some light, based on its temperature. By basic thermodynamics, the amount of radiation that a color of matter absorbs in a given frequency range (as opposed to reflects) is directly proportional to how much it radiates (as compared to a perfect black body of the same temperature).

    The sun only radiates on a fairly small set of frequencies, and that set is very different from the frequencies at which a black body at room temperature radiates. If you build a panel of a material that is perfectly absorbent in the frequencies on which the Sun radiates (perfect black body), but reflects in the remaining frequencies (perfectly white on the blackbody frequencies of room temperature), it will lose very little heat to radiation, but absorb a lot from the sun, and it'll get very hot. If you take a body that reflects radiation in the colors the sun emits (white), but absorbs/radiates elsewhere (black), it'll get very, very cool, even in bright sunlight. You can get pretty close to the full 1000W/m^2 of heating (level of Sun's radiation hitting the earth). In cooling, you get pretty close to the ideal from Stefan's Law (http://www.egglescliffe.org.uk/physics/astronomy/ blackbody/bbody.html), which gives 300-500W/m^2 at typical Earth temperatures (over 400W/m^2 heat loss at typical room temperature).

    This means that you can theoretically heat or cool a house with just a painted square on the roof a few square meters in area, if you could just create a material of the right color.

    Problem is the guy who came up with this (and showed it to me) was a physicist and not a chemist, and had no idea how one would go about creating a material whose color was that well controlled.

    Still a nifty concept, eh? If you could make this, it would save a ton of energy, since you'd no longer need to burn gas to heat and use electricity to cool -- just flip a panel on your roof, and the temperature changes (although for heating, the house would need to be well enough insulated to last the night).

    1. Re:More miracle heating/cooling by njh · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I don't think this works for cooling. The problem is that the sky isn't space. It isn't much cooler than here. This idea is sort of the same as the frozen water on a clear night idea. It doesn't happen during the day. Why don't you set up an experiment by putting a thermometer in an insulating tube (probably can be done using foil!) and point it at the sky - see if the temp drops measureably.

      Tell me if you get anything to happen - I couldn't measure a change in temp.

  16. Zero-G manufacturing? by phr1 · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Along with perfect ballbearings and other ideas that didn't work out, one of the more interesting suggestions for zero-g (actually microgravity) manufacture was metal foams. The idea is to shoot gas bubbles into molten metal. With no gravity to make the bubbles rise to the top, they'd stay where they were, and cooling down the mix would result in metal foam, sort of like foam rubber except with metal instead of rubber. I wonder if aerogel amounts to the same thing and could be made the same way?

    Ref: The Third Industrial Revolution by G. Harry Stine.

    1. Re:Zero-G manufacturing? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Metal "Foams" have been available for a long time. It's simply a matter of taking a metal powder, anding a solid material that will burn off completely at high temperature (usually some random organic). Then you take the whole mixture of too a temperature relatively close the the melting point of the metal. The metal connects together, the organic burns off, and the result is a porous metal layer. I've seen it used in fuel cells time and time again. And it's relatively cheap and easy to do.

  17. Practical Application by aiken_d · · Score: 5, Interesting

    See CDT Water for one practical, functional application of aerogel.

    In short, they push contaminated water through aerogel and use electrodes to pull ionic molecules apart. The ions get caught in the aerogel mesh, and the purified water flows through. At least, that's my layman's understanding of it.

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    1. Re:Practical Application by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      In short, they push contaminated water through aerogel and use electrodes to pull ionic molecules apart. The ions get caught in the aerogel mesh, and the purified water flows through. At least, that's my layman's understanding of it.

      What's most interesting is that the company's web site claims to be able to process nuclear waste. Considering the already high cost of processing these wastes, the expense of making aerogel might be a bargain.

      But the company itself may be less stable than the gel material. Their home page links to a press release which says that they prevailed in the appeal of a lawsuit against them for unpaid wages and stock options.

      IMO, bragging about this on the company web site is even more dot-com like than getting sued for this in the first place!

  18. Very expensive? by Daetrin · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Though it would be very expensive, you could take a two- or three-bedroom house, insulate it with aerogel, and you could heat the house with a candle.

    Maybe I'm missing something, but elsewhere they said "But, Dr. Tsou said, the material was not used much, except in powdered form as a nontoxic anti-caking agent for food."

    If it's so expensive, what kind of food exactly were they using it on? Caviar?

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  19. Bulletproof? by adept256 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It might not be flexible, but it's very light. If it can catch dust flying at 14,000mph, surely this would be the perfect material for a bulletproof vest.

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  20. ask Monsanto by iriles · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A few years later, Kistler left the College of the Pacific and took a position with Monsanto Corp. Shortly thereafter, Monsanto began marketing a product known simply as "aerogel". Monsanto's Aerogel was a granular silica material. Little is known about the processing conditions used to make this material, but it is assumed that its production followed Kistler's procedures. Monsanto's Aerogel was used as an additive or a thixotropic agent in cosmetics and toothpastes. Very little new work on aerogels occurred throughout the next three decades. Eventually, in the 1960s, the development of inexpensive "fumed" silica undercut the market for aerogel, and Monsanto ceased production.
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  21. Re:I Got To Touch It by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Oooh ahhhh, I'm so leet. A friend at work had a few samples of the stuff a couple years ago. I recall that although it was extremely light, it fell quickly when I dropped it from hand to the other. These were small pieces, about an inch on a side, so they had little frontal area for their mass. I suspect that a typical birthday balloon weighs even less than the same volume of aerogel. Another thing was that they were quite fragile, and absolutely rigid. I did not break any, but it was obvious that I could crush it into dust if I squeezed just a little too hard. After handling it, I had some miniscule crunchy particles on my skin, and probably a lot more I couldn't see, and I got the sense that going without a respirator if you worked with the stuff would not be a good idea. If I'd had a blowtorch handy and a big enough chunk of aerogel, I'd have been unable to resist doing the blowtorch-against-the-hand trick.

  22. Possible military application by burbilog · · Score: 3, Interesting

    IR-invisibility cloak. Just wear it and be hidden from all IR eyes in the sky... neat.

  23. I wonder by Kwelstr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Could aerogel be formed with some other gas other than air, like pure hydrogen? Would it become lighter than air then and float around?

    Just a thought, maybe some slashdotter knows, I've read the aerogel facts from the JPL page but it doesn't mention anything about this.

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    1. Re:I wonder by ChromiumXa · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I have been wondering why not use it in the Space Shuttle as a filler for all the empty space that is in the shuttle...just think of it - no more shuttles with gaping holes to allow the hot atmosphere to enter and burn up the shuttle...

  24. See it for yourself by Iffy+Bonzoolie · · Score: 3, Interesting

    For several years at Disneyland, they've had a sample of it in FutureLand or TomorrowLand or whatever it's called. Sort of across the path from Star Tours, there is a whole exhibit about the US Space Program. Inside a glass case, they have a square of Aerogel held up. Unfortunately, they don't let you touch it or anything. But it is interesting to look at - it's hard to find the edges of the material, even when you are concentrating.

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  25. Re:Aerogel Facts by hubie · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You forgot to mention the reason for using Aerogels as Cherenkov detectors: they present very little mass, so low-mass particles will not interact and/or deposit much energy in them (e.g., for electrons the Aerogel will act only as a Cherenkov detector and not a calorimeter). The only other real alternative for getting indices of refraction barely over 1.0 is to use pressurized gases, which present a whole series of their own problems.

  26. Re:Powdered Aerogel = Diatomaceous Earth by A55M0NKEY · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Diatom skeletons are made of silicon dioxide. Grinding up aerogel seems like a waste of time when diatomaceous earth can be mined by the dump truck load.

    Diatomaceous earth is 100% natural microscopic glass shards. Being microscopic glass shards they are an excellent insecticide. The shards pierce the insect's shell and through capilarry action, they suck out all the internal fluids drying the bug to a corpse. However, the shards are so small that humans can ingest them without fear of harm.

    So if you have a garden, or some veggies or other food you want to protect from insect pests without using a substance toxic to humans and pets, sprinkle on a little diatomaceous earth. Better yet mix up some garlic powder, water and diatomaceous earth in a bottle and spray it on. Garlic kills bugz too w/o being dangerous for ppl.

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  27. Re:More miracle heating/cooling - doh! by linoleo · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This means that you can theoretically heat or cool a house with just a painted square on the roof a few square meters in area, if you could just create a material of the right color.

    Ummmmm... I'm afraid that at least with respect to heating, it's been done: glass is transparent in visible light but opaque at room-temperature black body radiation frequencies, aka infrared. It's called the greenhouse effect, and it heats my wintergarden just fine.

    Another great patent idea lost to public-domain prior art - doh! :-)

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  28. Re:Really? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    On a more serious note, I wonder if this stuff has any radiation shielding properties? When they fired particles into the gel, they were very quickly stopped. And placing the gel against a bunsen burner doesn't even phase it. If it protects against radiation just as well, its light weight may make it the perfect space ship shielding material.

  29. Re:So, is it a solid, or a construction. by SpotWeld · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I believe that the density is measured by the volume of the cube divided by the mass of the cube. (In many cases it's also motioned that 98.8% of an aerogel is empty space.) But keep in mind that the truly remarkable feature about this is the scale at which this occurs.
    The framework that makes up an aerogel is so fine that the individual components are around 3-5 nanometers in thickness. (An atom is about 0.1nm).

    In your aluminum example the average density of the space defined by the cube would be less dense. But the foil that makes up its walls is easily discernable from the air. It might be easier to think of an aerogel like a sponge, or angel food cake where there are tunnels of air (or empty space if you'd rather) in the material. But in the case of the aeogel the tunnel are microscopically small complex in shape.

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