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FreeBSD 5.2.1 RC Ready For Getting
MobyTurbo writes "FreeBSD 5.2.1 RC is now available, and now can be downloaded from the FreeBSD site and mirrors, or if you are currently running FreeBSD 5.2 (or for that matter some earlier versions) you can simply cvsup to it. The upcoming 5.2.1 release should fix a number of outstanding bugs in the 5.2 release, and this is a chance to make sure those bugs get fixed!"
Given Gentoo's similarities to FreeBSD (i.e. provide the 'recipies' and compile from source), I've always wondered why the Gentoo project didn't use a BSD CVSup system (for the unwashed, the tree is updated using rsync). What are the technical advantages/disadvantages/differences between Portage and BSD's Ports?
-- Stu
/. ID under 2,000. I feel old now.
This is getting fairly rediculous. Slashdot is turning into web based version tracking software.
I understand how major releases of software is what is termed "news for nerds", but do we need to submit every single update to every single piece of software that is of slight interest? Can I remind everyone this isn't even a release, but a Release Candidate?
What significance does this have? People wanting bugfixes will absorp them via ports/pkg_add anyway, regardless of these useless posts.
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The last digit of pi is four.
FreeBSD 5.2.1 RC is now available
Necrophiles rejoice.
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
Try Fedora. Really. Core 1 is really "RedHat 10," and is faster and lighter on memory usage than RedHat 9, to boot. It supposedly runs software packaged for RedHat 9, as well. I was uncertain -- I even emailed (er, flamed) a friend working at RedHat about the whole Fedora/Enterprise thing. I needn't have. Fedora's fine.
It might have been easier to explain to the public if RedHat had chosen to keep calling it "RedHat Linux," rather than Fedora. They could have kept selling RHN access at $60/pop, too -- just shut off the demo accounts and announce a switch to " paid support only."
Anyhoo... give Fedora a shot.
Napster-to-go says "Fill and refill your compatible MP3 player", which is a lie. It's not MP3. It's WMA with DRM.
... but the community really turns me off. I've seen numerous comments of how Linux users are just "childish clueless newbies who hate Windows". Yes, I dislike Windows, but how the hell does that make me a clueless newbie? Why do BSD people act so high and mighty? Please clue me in.
I would like to test kernels from time to time, as I test linux distros. Apart from Debian, what is the state of bulding familiar systems (with familiar package management, etc) on different kernels, e.g. FreeBSD?
Is there any possibility to get a Debian-like (or Mandrake-like, why not?) experience with non-linux kernels? I would certainly give them a try... Or are there FreeBSD live-CDs with a hardware auto-recognition comparable with that of knoppix? That would be a nice way to try, too :)
My journal. Mainly about freedom.
consider that windows is much older than bsd or linux...
if nt is ver 3.51 till 4.01,
and 2000 is 5.xx
then xp can be 6.xx
and 2003 is likely the 7.xx branch.
of course versions 1-3.11 can hardly be considered an os.
FreeBSD certainly does support CD writing and has for some time. Maybe you last used it before CD burners were produced :-P
Even your favourite K3b is available.
Following the rules doesn't get the job done.
So why is BSD at version 5.2.1 already, and LINUX is still stuck at 2.6?
Pff, FreeBSD is still stuck at version numbers, while some Linux distros have cool movie characters names. I'm still waiting for FreeBSD Potato or FreeBSD Woody. But then again, FreeBSD doesn't exactly gives woodies to anyone does it?
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
of what has been reported broken in 5.2 and MFC'd to 5.2.1 can be found here
I just hope I can use my USB mouse with out needing a PS/2 mouse plugged in and my sound works again!
Music is everybody's possession.
It's only publishers who think that people own it.
Fuck Beta
~John Lenno
i think xp is 5.1, and 2003 is 5.2, they are up to speed with FreeBSD.
Please forgive me if I now unleash the full power of my razor sharp intellect, perspecacity and ability with confrontational rhetoric and respond thus:
Huh?
KFG
I am sure many users of FreeBSD who own computers with multiple processors are eagerly waiting to switch around 5.3. I know I am drooling over better performance but patience is the key. After reading that pdf on the new ULE scheduler, I became even more excited by all the hard work put in by the FreeBSD team. I am still a user of 3.x and mostly 4.x with one 5.x box. I cannot be more pleased with this operating system's stability since 3.4. Two hundred day uptimes are taken for granted with FreeBSD users. Also in 5.x perl was removed! thank you for getting that mess out of the base install. One always had to upgrade it anyway for recent software like spamassassin. Keep putting the FreeBSD stories on slashdot editors, because isp admins run it.
... is a FreeBSD-based liveCD. You can find it at www.freesbie.org. I downloaded it awhile ago but haven't yet checked it out, must get onto that. So many distros, so little time. L
From the announcement e-mail on the -CURRENT mailing list.
[...]
- many improvements and fixes to the ATA driver
- new kdeadmin3 package to address the 'KUser' problem
- fixes to several network drivers, IPSec, NFSv4, and NNS.
- fix for the cd bootloader code to handle USB cdrom drives.
[...]
As you see, most of the above fixes do not apply to ports/packages as they are in the base system.
It does to admins who count on their servers to run under _any_ workload.
Try SuSE. Seriously, I've been using Redhat since the 5.x days, and SuSE 9 is the one that seriously made me switch my desktop from windows.
Try the attached patch.
Ignoring the fact that the parent post was a joke for a moment, BSD has been around since the 1970s.
The original Windows (not NT, which is a different OS) was released in 1985 (Windows 1.0), and the last version was released in 2000 (Windows Me).
Linux and NT are about the same age: Linux 1.0 was released in 1994; Windows NT 3.1, (which was really NT 1.0, but called 3.1 to match the version number of Windows 3.1) was released in 1993.
Also:
Windows 2000 = NT 5.0 (really 3.0, since NT started with version 3.x)
Windows XP = NT 5.1
Windows 2003 = NT 5.2
open4free
Well, because the fact this guy/gal knows enough of Debian to know about GNU/Hurd, yet not know about GNU/BSD...s/he may just not have enough brain cells to visit GNU/FreeBSD or GNU/NetBSD or perhaps it is a poor grasp of English.
Such a project looses BSD features of how the development of the kernel/userland is together and introduces the glibc problems VS say the FreeBSD feature old being able to run older code compiled on FreeBSD. An example of this 'older code' problem would be WordPerfect 8 for Linux. To run that on, say, RedHat 9, you'd need to track down the old glibc's. Yet seti for FreeBSD 2.X will run on 4.X series just by adding COMPAT_2X to the compile of the FreeBSD environment.
I smell dead.
Bathe more often with Linux then. I'd recommend the shower gel.
Errm, I have a read a lot of messages saying that CVS must die, more or less recently. I have the impression that most of them people writing so are non-programmers or have never used cvs themselves.
Personally, I see some deficiencies with it, but there is no good reason to abandon cvs. It works, and it works reliably, and that is indeed something you can't say about all existing versioning systems...
what will be the first 5.x production release? When will it be out?
--Brian
2000 is 5.00.2195 XP is 5.1 ... something
2003 most likey will be 5.2 or 5.5.
The BSD's are still older.
Does this mean we will get another "review" from Eugenia over at osnews.com?
You talk about insignificant differences for the non-interactive rarely-processed data transfer.
Errm, I have a read a lot of messages saying that CVS must die, more or less recently. I have the impression that most of them people writing so are non-programmers or have never used cvs themselves.
I've done successfully migration of few teams from "no-versioning" to CVS (mostly in the past), as well as (recently) from CVS to better systems (Subversion and Aegis particularly). I know what I am talking about.
Personally, I see some deficiencies with it, but there is no good reason to abandon cvs. It works, and it works reliably, and that is indeed something you can't say about all existing versioning systems...
Aegis is around since 1991. It works, and it works reliably.
Less is more !
Most Linux users (LUsers) *hate* MS cause it's a childish trend... Yet, RH = MS in the Linux world.
Now if they sell it and don't offer RH Linux for free download you'll be seeing more and more of Linux on WaReZ sites. It's a shame that Linux's original intent was to be free for all! Now it's commercially available for all, just not as free anymore. RH is doing the same as MS so if you hate MS you hate RH.
Just a matter of time before the SCO issues settle and IBM takes over Linux and becomes the next MS of Linux with the existing MS, er, RH Linux.
Besides, not everyone needs or even wants support for RH. It's one of the most bloated, brain dead distro's out there. If you want real Linux, use Slackware or maybe Gentoo.
If you want MS Windows, use Windows.
If you want MS Linux, use RedHat (aka Fedora).
Sorry Linus. Your original goals are being taken over right under your nose from big blue and big red - they're laughing all the way to the bank.
Thank God for other, truly free, OSS systems.
I, e.g., see more reasons why PVCS should die, I understand that PRCS is already dead, and many other have a good idea behind them, but are not usable or a too proprietary to be widely used.
Uwe Ohse describes why he thinks CVS is not so good - from my point of view, these reasons don't really matter. Have you more and better reasons?
this is a big tax for the use of a singular tool (modula-3 is a huge compile), especially considering the fact that gentoo runs on non-i386 architectures.
http://www.cvsync.org/ is a not-yet-mature portable replacement for cvsup written in c.
FreeBSD doesn't exactly gives woodies to anyone does it?
If you get a woody thinking about Linux, then you have a serious problem...
Don't blame me, I didn't vote for either of them!
OK, that's actually 2 words. But they're important words describing a feature CVS lacks. Basically it means that when I commit a bunch of files, they either all are committed or none of them are. No partial commits that break the build. No chance of getting latest during what happens to be the midst of someone else's multi-file commit.
See the Subversion site to try it out.
In the last 10 years, I've worked on projects with RCS, CVS, Sourcesafe, Perforce, and Subversion. Once you get used to atomic commits in Perforce and Subversion, you'll wonder why any source control software is still used that doesn't do it this way.
-_-_-
There are 0x40000000 types of people: those who understand 32-bit IEEE 754 floating point, and those who don't.
Linux just needs to take the lead of (imo) the best distro they have, and SKIP a version or 3. Show those Dead FreeBSD Overlords how it's done.
axxackall wrote:
You can make that statement of CVSUp and it will still be true. CVSUp simply has extra support for CVS repositories to make the deltas smaller. For non-CVS data repositories, CVSUp uses rsync/append/copy algorithms as appropriate.
In practice, my experience with CVSUp is that it makes an excellent tool for regularly synchronising fixed repositories specific to an application, and rsync more ideal for sync'ing ad-hoc data.
In particular, I have (at work) a multilevel CVSUp hierarchy distributing large amounts of data internationally and it's been flawless in operation.
- J
I get your point, little buddy! It's like, considering windows 5.x (2000) came out circa year 2000, then freeBSD 5.x is like 3 freakin' years behind the times!
No wonder there's no support for my USB dildo!
Grow up little children, FreeBSD is another OS out there wether you like it or not. Does the fact that its out there bother you? well.. tough, now stfu. Cry to your mommies =)
Daemon rocks - the guardian angel