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US Govt Makes Times New Roman 14 Official Font

pollux03 writes "According to ABC news, 'In an internal memorandum distributed on Wednesday, the department declared "Courier New 12" - the font and size decreed for US diplomatic documents for years - to be obsolete and unacceptable after February 1. "In response to many requests and with a view to making our written work easier to read, we are moving to a new standard font: 'Times New Roman 14'," said the memorandum. ' The report goes on to cite a few exceptions to the rule including official telegraphs."

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  1. 14 point? by ed.han · · Score: 5, Interesting

    why so big? isn't 10 the default standard for most written communication?

    ed

  2. Copyright? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Who owns the copyright to Times New Roman? Are there any licensing issues involved in this decision?

  3. Re:Yeah, nice use of taxdollars. by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The government uses a lot of OCR - more than you would believe. Standardizing on one exact font description makes it far easier to build an OCR engine optimized for speed and accuracy, which in turn saves time and taxpayer dollars. It doesn't seem that unreasonable.

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  4. Re:Yeah, nice use of taxdollars. by kippy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This was a memo, not a $3 million case study. Don't overreact just because it has to do with the government. I'll bet you anything this cost about an hour of someone's time and the cost of emailing their workers and handing out some paper copies.

    If you want to start bitching about where your tax money is going, do some research first.

  5. Re:Telegrams? by jfengel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Believe it or not, Western Union.com. Mind you, it costs fifteen bucks. But it definitely makes an impact.

  6. i was ahead of my time, when i worked for DoD!! by pezpunk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "In response to many requests and with a view to making our written work easier to read, we are moving to a new standard font: 'Times New Roman 14'," said the memorandum.

    this is pretty amazing. back 13 years ago in 1991 i was working for the Army Materiel Command Headquarters and i repeatedly got a "talking to" from my bosses for using Times instead of Courier in official correspondence to other departments. i then went to the head of AMC HQ and suggested a change in policy to allow Times New Roman to also be acceptable, since we were now in the computer age, and not limited to typewriters and daisy-wheel printers, and since Times New Roman was demonstrably easier to read, and more attractive. He took my request to the Chief of Staff of the Army, who shot it down.

    i was ahead of my time!

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  7. As a person with poor eyesight.. by haggar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    (and before I get trolled: no, I can't correct it with glasses)

    I have had problems reading small font text for at least 10 years now, and the problem is, of course, getting worse. But I have learned a lot, about the needs of visually impaired people. One of these things is that Verdana is probably the ideal font for us. This fact was discussed in depth on the nystagmus newsgroup, and the good thing is, we all reached a consensus about Verdana.

    I am surprised so few companies use it. Actually, none as far as I know. I am surprised mostly because I believe that a nice, readable font is pleasant even for the healthy eye, it's more ergonomic.

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  8. Re:Once againe, SCO set the standard... by tiger99 · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Much as I would like to, even I can't actually find any way to blame SCO for this font change. I can't blame Sir Bill either. But, I think it is stupid, because 14 point is a bit too big and so wastes paper, not that the US government ever cared about waste.....

    In any case, there are more visually pleasing fonts, and I see no reason why official documents should not look good. Some organisations use their own custom font, I would have thought that the US government could afford to pay for a real expert to come up with a good one, which might also be more readable by the visually challenged.

  9. Re:Once againe, SCO set the standard... by sg3000 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    > there are more visually pleasing fonts, and I see no reason
    > why official documents should not look good.

    Yes, there are more pleasing fonts, but don't let untalented people come any where close to them. Give them Times New Roman and delete all the other fonts from their computers.

    At my company, Futura is our corporate branded sans serif, with New Century Schoolbook used for serif work. However, only about 10% of the corporate population can deal with this. We've got people who produce hundreds of pages of Futura text (where its sans serif nature makes the document an eyestrain to read). We've got people who can't tell the difference between Futura, MS Comic Sans, and Arial. We've got people who will mix Futura and Times New Roman in the same freaking sentence. I once saw a marketing person (who should have known better) try to use Zapf Chancery (an abomination) in all caps all over a presentation for a trade show, before he was smacked upside the head.

    I can't imagine our Federal government is any better. So, if settling on Times New Roman is the way to prevent font atrocities, then so be it.

    Sheesh. The only way I can keep from exploding like this at work is to read Kibo's pages on this.

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  10. fucking aweful title... US doesn't "Ban" anything by kaltkalt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    An administrative office in the US gov't decided to use a different font. Not only is this not news, but for them to frame it as "US Bans old font" is downright misleading and dispicable. Pretty much every office I've ever worked for has had a standard font. The Dept. of State decided to change fonts--and to a much more eye-pleasing one, I might add. Nobody is going to jail for using Courier Font in the USA. Not even a fine. This is basically just a "TPS Report" saying how they're gonna do the cover sheets from now on... new font. No big fucking deal. The USA has not banned any fonts. If you work for the Dept of State, start using Times new Roman. Shoulda been using it years ago anyway. Of course, if the title of the story had been "State Department Chooses New Font" the editors would have laughed the reporter out of the office... so it had to be more dramatic. "US bans..." ... yeh we've banned lots of stupid things that shouldn't be banned, but fonts are not yet one of them.

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