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Spammer Profile: Scott Richter

prostoalex writes "Westword.com published an article on Scott Richter, the owner of what is supposedly the nation's fastest-growing online marketing company, which mostly specialized in sending out those unsolicited electronic mail messages. Richter is the guy currently being sued by New York Attorney General and Microsoft Corporation for sending out nearly 9000 e-mails only to Hotmail accounts."

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  1. Spam time! by ChaoticChaos · · Score: 5, Funny

    WTF is HIS email address???

    1. Re:Spam time! by nocomment · · Score: 5, Informative

      According the Contact Us page, it's info@optinbig.com.
      Hey Andy! you take requests? http://www.optinbig.com/ unkay?

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    2. Re:Spam time! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Email address?

      No, get him with USPS junk mail. That's a whole lot more fun. =) It's been done before with the guy who was #1 at the time (Alan Ralsky or something like that, I beLIEve...)

      Get his home address and have fun...

    3. Re:Spam time! by DrEldarion · · Score: 5, Funny

      ... and, for good measure, make sure you also do webmaster@optinbig.com, optinbig@optinbig.com, admin@optinbig.com, abuse@optinbig.com, scottrichter@optinbig.com, srichter@optinbig.com, and whatever else you can think of.

  2. Write your congress-critter! by Scott+Lockwood · · Score: 5, Funny

    Voice your support for the Death Penalty for spamers!

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    1. Re:Write your congress-critter! by Tom · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Why exactly was the parent modded as Funny?

      Now while we can argue about whether or not it's a bit excessive, I'm taking bets that the sudden and brutal death of, say, the top 20 US spammers would bring spam down to 1995 levels almost instantly.

      In addition to the 20 cretins that we are rid of, the next 20 might also realize just who will be filling the freed-up slots, and a good part of them will move into something that resembles honest work.

      Now for the "may be excessive" part:
      Wars have been fought and thousands been killed for less.
      Spammers commit a crime that is not very much realized in the modern world - they attack the common. They don't rob one guy a lot, they rob everyone a little. In other times, there would have been no hesitations to subject them to the most drastic penalties.

      In fact, the death penalty should be modified for spammers to make sure it's slow and painful. A literal death by a thousand needle pricks might be very appropriate to the crime. Just pinch them once for every spam they sent.

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  3. Know what I hate? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's bad enough that they're spamming me, but then they lie about me signing up for their list. I didn't sign up, I know I didn't sign up, they know I know I didn't sigh up, so why bother?

    1. Re:Know what I hate? by JuggleGeek · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I don't understand why they tell blatent "You signed up to our list" lies either. It isn't, as someone suggested, because it's illegal if you didn't sign up - it isn't (at least in the US.) The Can Spam law was very clear - they can legally spam you until you beg them to quit. Regardless, they were making that claim for a long, long time before any laws about spam were in place.

      Spammers have a different mindset from normal people.

      They are trying to sell a product, but they usually tell lies in the subject field and/or the From line. Most of us wouldn't think "Hey, I want to sell to people, so I'll start out by making it clear that I'm lying to them and can't be trusted." But spammers think that way. And some people are apparently dumb enough to buy from them.

  4. New business? by monstroyer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just yesterday, Microsoft was devising a plan to invoice spammers, now they are suing a spammer. Who needs the operating system business when you got hotmail!

    9000 spam emails doesn't sound like that much. An acquaintance of mine is the developer of si20 and there's more spam than 9000 in a measly half a day of operations.

    Is this merely a symbolic legal pursuit? Or is this considered a lot of spam by the powers that be?

    1. Re:New business? by eln · · Score: 5, Interesting

      It's not that it's a lot of spam, it's that this guy is easy to pursue. A lot of spammers are based in unfriendly countries and are very difficult to sue. This guy is easy to sue.

      The basic theory here is to pick the low hanging fruit, and hopefully the others will back down out of fear. Not likely to happen that way, but that's the idea.

    2. Re:New business? by spood · · Score: 5, Informative

      If you had RTFA, you would realize that the 9000 were collected by Hotmail's "spam traps", created for the sole purpose of collecting spam. Further, these 9000 were all part of the same campaign with fraudulent headers. The 9000 represent only a fraction of e-mail sent to Hotmail addresses as part of the campaign, but since the spam trap addresses could never have legitimately opted in, they are the smoking gun in the lawsuit against 'Snotty'.

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  5. OptInRealBig's policy by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The policy from the guy's spam business site:

    It prohibits:

    "Unsolicited promotions, advertising or solicitations (commonly referred to as "spam"), including, without limitation, commercial advertising and informational announcements, except to those who have explicitly requested such e-mails."

    Hmmmm.....

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  6. Fatal allergies? by The+I+Shing · · Score: 4, Funny

    By any chance, does that article mention anything that he's fatally allergic to, say, something that could be purchased in bulk from a supermarket?

    Just wondering.

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  7. Booo! ... oh wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    He's a spammer! Burn him!

    Oh wait, he's spamming Microsoft Hotmail accounts? Oh hey man welcome back to the community!

  8. He's #4 by rossz · · Score: 5, Informative

    Spamhaus.org rates him as the nation's (world's?) #4 spammer.

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  9. Tired of the "fastest growing" statistic by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 4, Insightful
    If I got one hit on my website last month, and got fifty this month, I'd have, statistically, the fastest growing web site in the world.

    You see this in business news all the time. Brand X is the fastest growing company blah blah. Well, yeah. It's easy to see big growth numbers when you have three employees.

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  10. Never fails to amaze.... by Epyn · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am amazed that you can run an entire business of sending out emails that no one reads. I understand tha overhead = negligable thing, but still...How can he afford the trained monkies to write these things.

    1. Re:Never fails to amaze.... by gl4ss · · Score: 4, Insightful

      the problem is that there's people out there who buy this stuff.. just read the bit about the iraq playing cards.

      his a classic example of an oppurtunist that just doesn't care, just as long as he makes money. had he been from a different neighbourhood he would be pimpin or selling crack. " At 32, Richter's already spent nearly two decades chasing the Next Big Thing -- and finding it, the past few years, in cyberspace."

      "The Pentagon had developed the cards as an intelligence tool, to be distributed to the troops. Richter saw them as the war souvenir the public had been waiting for. Within hours, his company was shooting out e-mails advertising the cards for sale -- more than 15 million e-mails, in fact. Richter moved 40,000 decks of the cards in a week, buying them for 89 cents each and selling them for $5.95. Yet at the time he started the blitz, he didn't have a single deck in stock. Nobody did.". find a product that's cool for stupid people and sell it through a medium that reaches the stupid people - kaching!

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  11. The best part is... by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Funny


    ...that you'll die sooner or later, and then you won't get any more spam.

    Unless of course there's life after death, in which case you'll probably get spamned for all eternity.

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  12. His policy is Rule #1 compliant. by Dimensio · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Rule #1: Spammers lie.

  13. This guy sounds like a real prize by LochNess · · Score: 5, Informative
    From the article:
    "And Richter now finds himself in a media spotlight at a time when he's coming off probation from a felony conviction arising from a fencing investigation two years ago -- a subject he's not at all eager to talk about.".
  14. Free Advertising by Squeebee · · Score: 4, Informative

    Sadly, all we are doing is giving this guy free advertising. Even bas publicity is good publicity. On a different note, a lot of these guys are not ashamed of what they do. I met one once at an Open Source conference and when you ask him what he does he very plainly states "I'm a spammer". The guy was a total pariah.

  15. I can't believe I am saying this.... by Rydian · · Score: 5, Funny

    Woohoo! Go Microsoft!

    I hope you win this one.

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  16. "The Internet Is Not Free" by the_mad_poster · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Says asshat: What people don't understand is that the Internet isn't free.

    GOD I FUCKING HATE THESE PEOPLE!

    Since when does this dickhead own the Internet? Since when is it "not free" as in "you owe me money"?

    ARGH! I not only support the death penalty for these asshats, I think they need to deport this guy's goddamn family to central Cambodia.

    The absolute contempt that these people have for all other living beings outside their small inner circles is so mind-numbingly infuriating that I can't even come up with a suitable rant against this guy. The absolute level of FURY that these moronic losers can invoke through their childish, imbecilic, self-centered "give it all to me" outlooks on life could never BEGIN to compare to the narcissism displayed by everyone in Hollywood COMBINED. NEVER HAVE I SO DESIRED TO POP SOMEONE'S HEAD LIKE AN OVERINFLATED BALLOON!

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    1. Re:"The Internet Is Not Free" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      C'mon, man. Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.

    2. Re:"The Internet Is Not Free" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      There needs to be a new moderation:

      "fucking pissed off, but right."

    3. Re:"The Internet Is Not Free" by NineNine · · Score: 4, Funny

      Have you thought about maybe getting a hobby... like heavy drug use?

  17. Jail... by Dieppe · · Score: 5, Insightful
    It's clear from the article that this joker should be in Prison for theft, and other crimes...

    But according to him he's raking in the big bucks! He used to be fat, but now he's 240lbs! Hey, I wonder if he has a large penis now as well?

    Point is, the article failed to mention the fact that he is still stealing resources from other ISP machines. While he claims that the Internet isn't free, and he's one of those good "internet marketer bulk emailers" and that all 40 million email addresses were opt-in, and that he's not one of those scummy "hard core spammers" and he honors all remove requests...

    Spammers ALWAYS LIE!

    He and Darl should get together sometime...

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    I know, this is probably redundant and has probably already been said... but I do hate when thieveses like this joker just keep getting away with spamming.... so the question is asked. Who is giving him the money to continue his "business" and how can we (or anyone) stop it?

  18. I love these guys. by amarodeeps · · Score: 5, Interesting
    "I'm not going to argue that there isn't one person in forty million who didn't subscribe," Richter says. "But we document where the addresses come from, and when people complain, we remove them from our list. What people don't understand is that the Internet isn't free. I make my money by signing you up at my Web site, getting your information, and using that information to figure out what you like."

    Here we see a prime example of self-delusion and self-righteousness substituting for morality. Right, the Internet isn't free. But I didn't realize that I was paying Scott Richter to get online--I thought I was paying Verizon for DSL service.

    It is entertaining to see how much these people hate Steve Linford though.

    It's really simple folks: if what you are doing is legit, why do you have to forge your headers? Why do you have to hide behind false email addresses? If it is legit, why do you have such a hard time getting legitimate ISPs to sell you bandwidth? Figure it out.

  19. Contact Info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    From a PDF of the lawsuit:

    OptInRealBig, LLC is a limited liability corporation, with its principal place of business at 1333 W 120th Ave, Suite 101 Westminster, CO 80234.

    Wonder if he is getting enough mail at is office? I would expect that a few additional catalogs would do alot to spruce up the place.

    1. Re:Contact Info by darksoulz · · Score: 5, Informative

      Dont forget his home address. Being a resident of the Denver area, I've been tempted to drive by and let him know exactly what I think of his "marketing".

  20. spamming != marketing by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How the hell can you call spamming "online marketing". Although I'm, a techie, I have respect for skilled marketeers, analyzing markets and fitting producsts to customers.. Spammers just dump their shit indiscriminately. It's like calling the burger flipper at McDonalds a chef!

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  21. Re:Just Curious by YouHaveSnail · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is it possible to "SPAM back" someone by the means of /. effect?

    I suppose you'd also favor chopping off someone's hand when they steal something?

    An eye for an eye is not sound policy. We've got various laws against using your computer to create a nuisance for others, and they apply to us all, not just to spammers. I don't think I'd cry if any or all of the top ten spammers happened to be hit by a truck, but that doesn't mean I condone intentionally running them down.

    This guy is finally getting at least some of what he deserves, which is a trial potentially followed by punishment under the law. If you can contribute evidence to support the charges against him, or bring new charges, then go for it. Otherwise, leave it be.

  22. Re:Will this last very long? by pyros · · Score: 5, Informative
    I am surprised that mass emailing is still profitable in America, with its restrictive new laws against spam.

    Your misconception is that the new federal law (which replaces all state laws, some of which had real teeth to them) is restrictive. The irony in the law being named CANSPAM, and it really is named CANSPAM, is not to be understated here. The law says that UCE must be labeled as such, but leaves it up to the sender to define how it is labeled.

  23. Re:surprise by dzym · · Score: 4, Funny

    Idiots are worth $2 apiece? :)

  24. more information by cluge · · Score: 5, Informative
    This article misses a few key points that are summed up nicely here (requires a click to accept policy and then REFOLLOW the link) The SpamHaus information includes not only a brief description of his transgressions, but addresses from his domain registry etc. The one thing to remember about this person is that he has been dilligently obeying the first rule of spammers for years.

    Rule 1: Spammers lie Take a look at a few of his quotes here

    The article about him from the BBC is what scares me. "We are very excited [about the new CAN-SPAM law]," said Scott Richter, the president of OptInRealBig, an e-mail marketing firm in Westminster, Colo. "All of our clients had been worried about the California law. In the last two hours we have been booking a lot of orders for January."
    This guy is the kind of guy that would piss in your pool. Now that he's got the internet, he gets to piss on millions of people at a time.

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  25. Look at any major spammer's past... by IANAAC · · Score: 4, Interesting

    They all have been in some sort of legal trouble.
    And it usually involves extortion, scam or theft. I wish the media would concentrate more on their criminal past. Maybe then people would get a clue and not do any business with them.

  26. PHONE NUMBER!! SPAM TIME!! :D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't know his email address, but his PHONE NUMBER is

    (303) 464-8164

    N'joy!!

    ps- Don't forget to ask if his penis is larger!!

    1. Re:PHONE NUMBER!! SPAM TIME!! :D by Zone-MR · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Can someone please verify this?

      For all I know Mr. AC could have posted his 'friends' phone number, got modded up as informative, and exploited the slashdot crowd to arrange a personal vendetta against some random bloke.

    2. Re:PHONE NUMBER!! SPAM TIME!! :D by Coward,+Anonymous · · Score: 4, Informative

      Can someone please verify this?

      Verification

  27. Slashdot Interview? by GeorgeH · · Score: 5, Interesting

    How about a Slashdot Interview with this guy (or another spammer)? I think it would be really interesting to see what (civilized) questions we could ask him and what his answers would be. He says that he puts himself in front of the media so it shouldn't be too hard to get in touch with him.

    How about it editors? (I tried suggesting an interview with a spammer before, but since I didn't have a name or contact information the editors didn't want to hear it. I wonder why I should do their job for them when they're the ones getting paid...)

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  28. The best line in the article is the last... by Frennzy · · Score: 5, Funny

    The sign on the window next to the entrance of OptInRealBig's offices in Westminster leaves no room for misunderstanding. Or irony.

    NO SOLICITING.

  29. Size M@tters by ackthpt · · Score: 4, Funny
    He'll be about an eight inch tall, squashed under my shoe if I ever meet him.

    Yeah, but then he'll just take some herbal vi@gra and grow back to 6'1", because everyone knows it makes pricks get bigger.

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  30. Wrong. by schon · · Score: 5, Informative

    A lot of spammers are based in unfriendly countries and are very difficult to sue.

    Not true. The vast majority of spammers are based in the US.

  31. Re:getting worse by Steve+B · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I think we're beginning to see the wide-spread deployment of those new ani-filtering techniques some have talked about.

    What we need is a prosecutor looking to make a name for himself who is willing to do the homework to apply the existing anti-cracking laws (what is filter evasion, if not an attempt to circumvent computer security for the purpose of gaining prohibited access to other people's computer?)

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  32. Proof that spam works (sadly enough) by Nept · · Score: 4, Informative

    Read the article. Case in point was Iraq trading cards. He sent out 15 million emails, received 40,000 purchases. That's 1:375. Better than I would have thought. That's also $5.06 profit per transaction, which means he grossed $202,400, and I'll bet his net take wasn't much lower than the gross (what's the overhead for a spammer? Virtually nil, I would imagine.)

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  33. Obligatory bash.org quote... by Zone-MR · · Score: 4, Funny

    In a perfect world... spammers would get caught, go to jail, and share a cell with many men who have enlarged their penisses, taken Viagra and are looking for a new relationship.

  34. Re:OK by gid13 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Following the daily camera link on that search yields an article that claims Mr. Richter himself answered this number: (303) 550-9828

    (article is at this URL):
    http://www.dailycamera.com/bdc/opinion_colu mnists/ article/0,1713,BDC_2490_2615380,00.html