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At Long Last, Mice Produce Sperm From Monkeys

Hoon Mihn Fao writes "The BBC Reports: 'Mice have been used to produce viable monkey sperm using tissue transplanted from the testes of macaques. The U.S. scientists involved say their work might one day help to conserve animals that are facing extinction.'"

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  1. Just think... by p4ul13 · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...how surprised the mouse on the recieving end of this will be when she gives birth to a monkey.

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  2. Wow! Look at them go! by TrebleJunkie · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...Those mice are f*cking like monk-- oh, wait.

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  3. Re:Jokes.... tooo many!! can't take it by blamanj · · Score: 5, Funny

    Clearly the Python insult "Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries" is closer to becoming s statement of fact.

  4. whoa ... phew!! by blandthrax · · Score: 3, Funny

    For a minute there I thought it said "spam from monkeys."

  5. And the understatement of the year award by eclectro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    goes to this statement;

    It might also be possible to grow human sperm in mice, although the team agree this would be a controversial move.

    Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

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    1. Re:And the understatement of the year award by lindsayt · · Score: 4, Interesting

      But what I wonder is, why is it controversial to grow human sperm in mice, but it's not controversial to grow monkey sperm in mice?!?!?

      Call me old-fashioned, but I tend to think that if it's a bad idea to be doing GE on humans then it's probably a bad idea on animals too. If it's okay on animals, it's okay on humans. After all, we're all part of the same evolutionary closed-cycle system, and if we f*ck things up for the animals around us we're f*cked too.

      Also, I hate PETA as much as the next person (Unless it stands for People Eating Tasty Animals) but if we think GE is somehow cruel and horrible for humans, why exactly is it not cruel and horrible for monkeys?

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    2. Re:And the understatement of the year award by eclectro · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But what I wonder is, why is it controversial to grow human sperm in mice, but it's not controversial to grow monkey sperm in mice?!?!?

      The problem I primarily have is having to tell some kid that his biological father was a mouse.

      Imagine the kind of brain fsck you would be handing the kid.

      At least in THX1138 everybody came from the same set of jars.

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    3. Re:And the understatement of the year award by matzim · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But what I wonder is, why is it controversial to grow human sperm in mice, but it's not controversial to grow monkey sperm in mice?!?!?

      Didn't the OP say the motivation behind the research was to protect against extinction? The means may be perceived as cruel and horrible, but if it preserves an species that would otherwise be lost, the end is not. In any case, the motivations for doing GE on humans are different than the ones they mention here. It's not like we're very close to extinction...

      (Though I suspect that depends who you ask).

  6. I can't resist the joke here... by Xentor · · Score: 5, Funny

    "It might also be possible to grow human sperm in mice, although the team agree this would be a controversial move."

    GUARD 1: It's not a question of whether it's controversial! It's a simple question of size ratios! A five-inch mouse cannot carry a one-foot human baby!

    GUARD 2: Well suppose two mice carried it together

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  7. And to think... by Alcamar · · Score: 2, Funny

    And to think, according to george carlin, today is the 2 million anniversary of sperm. We've come a long way folks :)

  8. "At long last..." by abulafia · · Score: 4, Funny
    How long, exactly have you been waiting for this development?

    Wait, on second thought, please don't answer that.

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  9. Wow... by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

    "At Long Last, Mice Produce Sperm From Monkeys"

    Wow... somebody has VERY specific tastes....

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  10. Great story by fredrikj · · Score: 3, Funny

    It took me at least 10 seconds to realize that I had NOT misread the title. *shudder*

  11. Re:Thanks Slashdot. You now owe me a keyboard. by real_smiff · · Score: 3, Funny
    shouldn't it be "mice produce sperm for monkeys" (or just: monkey sperm). "from monkeys" is weird, implies the mice have developed some form of alchemy that allows them to turn monkeys into sperm.

    hmm, that would make a slashdot story..

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  12. Disturbing by cgenman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I know nobody here reads the articles, but the most disturbing part of the whole procedure is that the testicular material is grafted onto the mouse's back. The mouse must then be constantly producing a thin gelatinous ooze of reproductive material, which is attempting to burrow into anything and everything nearby.

    Eww.

    1. Re:Disturbing by Scrameustache · · Score: 2, Funny

      The mouse must then be constantly producing a thin gelatinous ooze of reproductive material, which is attempting to burrow into anything and everything nearby.

      I'm having a hard time visualising this...

      Fortunatly, the hentai version will be out shortly to serve as an educational visual aid. I mean, with all those schoolgirls in there, its gotta be for educational purposes, right?

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  13. Re:beware! by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 2, Funny

    No fear! Plenty of women are scared of mice.

  14. Re:Bringing back the Mammoth... by orthogonal · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm no cell biologist, but it seems this process could be used to bring back extinct species as well, or at least a part of them[....] Of course, one would then need a female.... maybe an elephant?

    That's the rub (no pun intended).

    While we have a basic understanding of genetics, our understanding of embryogenesis -- how a baby organism is built from the genetic code -- is still rather limited.

    We also, in most cases we don't know what a particular gene does, and given that other genes can control a gene's expression, and those genes can be controlled by yet other genes, and all the genes in the process can be influenced by the organisms internal -- hormones, etc. -- and external environment, just what a gene does is a complicated question.

    But it's clear that the environment of the embryo -- which is, by and large, the embryo's mother -- has a strong influence on what's actually produced from the genetic "recipe".

    Experiments cloning cats, for instance, have shown that pelt patterns and hair color are only a little influence by the gene (which makes sense if you consider that getting locked into one pattern, over many generations, makes for poor camouflage -- so not having pelt patterns under genetic control may in fact be a very successful genetic adaptation).

    So while elephants are related to mammoths, it's still an open question whether injecting mammoth DNA into an elephant egg would produce anything viable, let alone anything that would survive to term and be healthy. But you're correct, it might be possible, and if it is, we could then breed successively less "elephant-contaminated" generations of mammoths.

    But it's still far from trivial, and shouldn't be seen as an excuse, as some would use it, to be blase about species extinctions and dwindling species diversity occurring in the present.

  15. Re:Bringing back the Mammoth... by Rubyflame · · Score: 2, Funny

    Aren't elephants scared of mice?

    Maybe use a pig instead of a mouse...

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  16. Poor kids... by !splut · · Score: 3, Funny

    From the article: "Prepubescent boys undergoing treatment for cancer that will render them sterile could benefit, Professor Dobrinski suggest."

    "Billy, the doctors have good news. The cancer is in remission, and you're going to make a complete recovery! And guess what else? The doctors have given you a pet immunodeficient mouse! Take good care of him Mr. Fuzzy if you ever want to have kids of your own."

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  17. A South Park moment. by Picass0 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Chef: Hello there children.
    Kyle: Hey Chef.
    Chef: How you doin'?
    Boys: Bad.
    Chef: Why bad?
    Kyle: We need to genetically engineer our mouse and an monkey, but their genes won't splice.
    Chef: Ahhhh, of course they won't splice children. Haven't you ever heard that song by 'Loverboy'?
    Chef: Dooodnnndoodnn - A mouse and an monkey DNA just won't...A mouse-monkey. Say, now that's not a bad idea.
    Kyle: I told you guys.
    Chef: Imagine, a pint sized monkey that you could keep in the house. Children, we could make a fortune with this.
    Kyle: You hear that dudes? We'll be rich!
    Chef: Forget about all that genetic engineering whoosafudge. If you want to combine a mouse and an monkey, just get them to make sweeet love.
    Cartman: Whaaat?!
    Stan: I don't think an monkey would make love to a mouse.
    Cartman: I don't think my mouse would want to make love to that stupid monkey.
    Chef: Sure they would. But you're gonna have to get 'em in the mood.
    Stan: So how do we do that?
    Chef: Do what I do, get 'em goood and drunk.

  18. Bukake Mouse? by Ignis+Flatus · · Score: 2, Funny

    Don't look at me that way, somebody had to say it. Surely I'm not the first to recognize the potential of licensing this technology to the Japanese entertainment industry.

  19. Where's the affiliate program by 1mediahound · · Score: 2, Funny

    1. Does this lab have an affiliate program I can promote?

    and

    2. Makes me think twice feeding mice to my tegus now. As I feed them, I think, "That might've be the grandmother of my future kids kids kids." (well didnt look that close [male? female?] but you get the idea..)

    I cant take it anymore... I'll leave it at that...

  20. Gives a new meaning to... by sheapshearer · · Score: 2, Informative

    double-clicking your mouse! Gee, just when you thought we ran out of uses for mice, someone comes along and find another...

  21. New meaning by saramakos · · Score: 3, Funny

    This explains what people mean when they say "Well I'll be a monkey's uncle" !!