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Dream Jobs of 2004

prostoalex writes "We've read about the worst jobs out there, the most overpaid ones, the worst job postings and the outsourcing tendencies. Can an article on employment in scientific and engineering fields can have a positive outlook? February issue of IEEE Spectrum talks about the dream ('coolest, baddest, hippest, grooviest') jobs, where people have fun and enjoy what they're doing. IEEE publication covered the dream jobs for Electrical Engineering majors only. The linked article is actually a story about 9 different people with 9 different jobs, each leading to a separate article."

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  1. Your job shouldn't be your life. by garcia · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't want a dream job...

    Dream jobs eliminate the one good thing about life. Vacation. Whether that be on the weekends, your random days off in the middle of the week, or the two weeks you spend lounging in Jamaica.

    They don't call work "work" for nothing. If it was fun they would call it Vacation. Work gives me something to look forward to when I don't have to do it. It shouldn't be an escape from your family, it shouldn't be fun, and it certainly be something you overly enjoy...

    My enjoyment everyday comes in the form of looking forward to the weekend when I spend my free time geocaching with my friends or myself. If I enjoyed work I would probably be sitting in my office working. What good does that do me?

    We are a sad society when we put work in front of our "real lives".

    Remember that before you go off in search of the job that you just can't wait to get to everyday. Family, fun, and vacation > work.

    BTW - I don't mind my job in the least. I don't complain about it and I don't hate coming to work everyday. I just think it's better to enjoy yourself outside of your job.

    1. Re:Your job shouldn't be your life. by kruczkowski · · Score: 5, Informative

      Work in Germany, under German law every worker must get 6 weeks paid vacation, from a janitor to a CEO.

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    2. Re:Your job shouldn't be your life. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why not enjoy both? Sounds like you're trying to rationalize the career you chose.

    3. Re:Your job shouldn't be your life. by mbge7psh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      A truely dream job shouldn't seem like a job at all. If you get payed to do what you truely enjoy, where is the harm in putting it before other hobbies?

    4. Re:Your job shouldn't be your life. by jetkust · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yea, and I want to get cancer just for the remission. Good thinking.

    5. Re:Your job shouldn't be your life. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Uh, it's a sad society that SEPARATES "lives" from "work".

      Why should you only enjoy yourself when you're not working?

      Imagine a job in a small company where you know everybody, you and your wife both work and can freely visit, and you bring your kids to work with you every day and watch them learn and play.

      Imagine you can wear whatever religious symbol you want, and say whatever you like without fear of lawsuits. Imagine that once you finish your day's work, you're free to leave, but you don't because you love doing your work.

      Imagine that your life and your work where completely intertwined and you loved every minute of it.

      Isn't it funny that people say "where do you live" when they ask what you do OUTSIDE of work? If "living" happens outside of work, then when you're working, you must be DEAD right? The opposite of live.

      You should look forward to EVERY DAY, not just the weekends. That's sad.

      I don't have the solution.. I'm self-employed and really enjoy it but I still have to deal with the "walking dead" on a regular basis.

    6. Re:Your job shouldn't be your life. by wrp103 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I once read that you should make a career out of your second favorite thing to do. That way, when work got to you, you could relax with your hobby rather than your career.

      That said, I think far too many people keep thinking of better things rather than enjoying what they are doing at the moment. If somebody gives me something to do that I don't like, I try to figure out how to make it more enjoyable.

      For example, I once had a boss that insisted that I send him a status report each week. (I hate paper work). So, I did what I often do in situations like that ... I automated it. I segmented the status report into different sections, created text files for each section, and then wrote some code, along with a Makefile, so that each Friday, I ran a single command, and out came my status report e-mailed to my boss along with other interested parties.

      Now, I could have spent time bellyaching about what a lousy job I had been given, but instead decided to make it more tolerable. After it was done, I actually enjoyed submitting status reports.

      Now, certainly there are jobs with little or no redeeming value, but most of the people I hear complaining actually have it pretty good. Most have food to eat, a place to stay, and make enough money to make ends meet with a little left over.

      Blaise Pascal, in his book Pensees, states that people spend too much of their time regretting the past and dreaming about the future, that they don't have time to enjoy the present. As a result, they are often unhappy when they don't need to be.

    7. Re:Your job shouldn't be your life. by Jorrit · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Work shouldn't be fun??? That must be one of the saddest remarks I have heard in some time. I would quiet my job the moment it stops getting fun.

      Of course I agree with you that work isn't the only thing in life. Family comes first.

      But if your work isn't fun then I pity you.

      Greetings,

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    8. Re:Your job shouldn't be your life. by Cyclone66 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wouldn't the more enlightened country be the one that realizes working like a dog, 50+ hours a week with only a week vacation is not a way to live?

    9. Re:Your job shouldn't be your life. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Moderate parent 5, Insightful. Working 50 and 60 hour weeks with no vacation is very 1890s. Slaving away like a serf for a king is very 1300s.

      Germany and the rest of the European countries have the right idea. A person needs more time to enjoy friends, family, and most importantly for the economy, spend money.

      Yes, I am an American and yes, I might be a little upset since I can't afford to take any time off after my first child is born in August.

    10. Re:Your job shouldn't be your life. by elefantstn · · Score: 4, Funny

      Another benefit is that more than 1 in 10 Germans gets 365 days off from work every year. What a country!

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    11. Re:Your job shouldn't be your life. by HungWeiLo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You talk about overhead, but you're making the assumption that overworked, 60+ hrs/wk individuals will produce output at a constant rate of high productivity. Also, a very high concern for employers these days is medical. Simply, overworked/tired workers are more likely to get more medical problems and drive up medical costs collectively.

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    12. Re:Your job shouldn't be your life. by __past__ · · Score: 4, Informative

      Social security is getting worse. The last step was the "Gesundheitsreform" (health reform) of January 2004, which made the healthcare system a lot worse (at least one death directly due to the changes has been reported, and is currently dealt with in court). The unemployment rate here is as bad as everywhere else, esp. in the IT sector, and the Arbeitsamt ("employment agency", the guys that take your money while you are employed and might perhaps give you a fraction of it back when you aren't) is less willing then ever to help you find a new job, or a way to pay for food - it was also involved in a major political scandal in the last months, which forced the chairman to resign (his successor hasn't been chosen yet), which didn't help either. Going back to Uni is also not an option (at least in my state, north-rhine westfalia, other states already did that or announced to do it in the next years), because it costs EUR 650, in addition to the ~ EUR 150-200 that it cost before, for "long-time" students (about 60% of all students), something explicitly ruled out by the social-democratic party (which has the majority both in NRW and the germany as a whole, together with the green party that promised the same) in the last election. Taxes are going up. The software patents situation is likely going to get a lot worse this year, and copyright law already has in 2003 (and the equivalent of the RIAA has just annouced to massively sue private file sharers). The weather is lousy. Everytime you stand up in a Bus to let some wrinkled old guy take your seat, you wonder if he has been a member of the NSDAP - but that problem tends towards a bilological solution, unlike the militant young nazis that keep beating up foreigners and bombing jewish cemetaries and synangouges. At least they are not the only antisemitits or fascists, at least once per 6 months, some prominent politician or author gets some publicity for being one as well (not always bad publicity, mind you). After the monetary reform (from german Marks to the Euro), a lot of things have become a lot more expensive. You cannot buy beer in cans anymore, because of the 25c "Dosenpfand", cheap beer is now sold in plastic bottles, which sucks. The german pop culture is pretty much a mixture of the worst parts of the american pop culture and some really, really bad german artists. Did I mention that the weather really sucks?

    13. Re:Your job shouldn't be your life. by BenEnglishAtHome · · Score: 4, Funny
      I once had a boss that insisted that I send him a status report each week. (I hate paper work). So, I did what I often do in situations like that ... I automated it

      I once had a boss that insisted that I send him a status report each morning. I don't mind paperwork, so I did what I often do in situations like that ... I buried him in what some people call "malicious compliance."

      I can write fast and wordy. So every morning, right after my to-do list, I'd write two pages, minimum, listing every single little thing I did the day before. We're talking excruciating detail.

      It took less than a month for the guy to tell me that he didn't need daily reports anymore. He wanted a single monthly report, no more than one page, double-spaced.

      Sweeeet. :-)

  2. Re:Dream Job #1 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear Anonymous Coward,

    After further revision your skillset and experience does not appear to match our First Poster job position requirements. In fact, you miserably failed.

    We at Slashdot value professionals like you and would like to keep your resume in our database for future positions open.

    Best regards,
    HR

  3. IEEE Magazine? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    If I wanted a list of what's hip & cool, I wouldn't look in IEEE magazine to find it.

  4. History Channel's dream job by SoCalChris · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There was a show on the History Channel this week about the autobahn. They did a short piece on some lucky bastard who works for a Porche tuner. His job? Take each new, handbuilt car onto the autobahn late at night, and certify just how fast it can go.

    1. Re:History Channel's dream job by southpolesammy · · Score: 4, Funny

      Unfortunately, that job is not without its risks, and the mortality rate of that job is much higher than the norm.

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    2. Re:History Channel's dream job by fullofangst · · Score: 4, Funny

      A minor detail like "mortality rate" wouldn't put me off THAT job!

    3. Re:History Channel's dream job by switcha · · Score: 4, Funny
      and the mortality rate of that job is much higher than the norm.

      What does Norm do for a living?

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  5. There's always worse. by Geoffd1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Let me tell you something: if you think you have the worst job, there's always a more dire one.

    I had a job where I was supposed to engineer "smart" plumbing fixtures - keeping water temperature right, measuring turd/bowl ratio, etc. It paid the bills, but it was boring as hell - and always got blank looks at the local SCA meets.

    When the tech boom subsided, I lost the job. I wasn't too worked up about it. I found another job quickly, but little did I know it would turn out to be even worse. It was similar to the above position (experience always helps when applying), but, as I found out upon showing up on day one, I was to be engineering urinals. I fear parties, for people inevitably ask me what I do. Ten years of higher education for this, and people piss on my designs!

    So, don't complain about your job. At least your products aren't full of piss.

    1. Re:There's always worse. by Kenja · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Are you kidding? I'd have t-shirts made proclaiming that I designed smart urinals for a living. You have a unique job that many people would get a kick out of.

      It should also be notted that getting blank looks at SCA meetings is normal. Somthing about people who get hit in the head with sticks for fun.

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      "Have you ever thought about just turning off the TV, sitting down with your kids, and hitting them?"
  6. Does this count? by JZ_Tonka · · Score: 5, Funny
    Sitting on a couch in my parents basement, posting to Slashdot from my Linux-running laptop, surrounded by empty McDonalds wrappers and cans of Jolt provided through a generous grant from the U.S. taxpayer.

    No, I'm not bitter...

  7. Yeah, but what about... by serutan · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sure, astronaut, deep sea submersibles, yeah, yeah. But they left out bikini team oiler.

  8. A supermodel's trophy husband by Golias · · Score: 4, Funny
    A great dream job would be a trophy husband to a beautiful, weathly, fun-loving supermodel.

    Oh, they are talking about dream jobs for Electrical Engineers only?

    In that case: A great dream job would be a trophy husband to a beautiful, weathly, fun-loving supermodel.

    What? You think having EE degrees means they would rather stare at oscilliscopes all day!?

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    Information wants to be anthropomorphized.

  9. Slashdot? by FreemanPatrickHenry · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't know, I would guess CowboyNeal has pretty close to the ubergeek paradise job. I mean, come on, he's got unlimited mod points for God's sake!

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  10. I just got my dream job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I work for IBM. A nice person from that company trained me how to do the job. He was nice but he seemed very sad. Anyway ,I now have a job and I can feed my family.

  11. obligatory Samir... by *weasel · · Score: 4, Funny

    "First, I would invest half of it in low risk mutual funds, and give the other half to my friend Asadulah who works in securities..."

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  12. dream jobs and being subjective .. by psycho_tinman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Naysayer that I am, I think a "dream job" is impossibly subjective.

    Some people may be thought to have dream jobs because it pays well in general(professional sports stars). Some people because it is something you wish you were paid for (professional gamers or err.. movie critics, if you like). Some may have dream jobs because you wish you were doing that job (it's description, at any rate.. some people entertain fantasies about being a photographer for a magazine like Playboy :p). Some people may wish for cutting edge technology jobs.. Hey, when Marcelo Toscatti was interviewed, I remember a comment saying "he's 20 years old, kernel maintainer and married".. :)

    So what is it that we like about these jobs ? The fact that the grass always looks greener on someone else's pasture ? or the fact that we wish we were doing something else ? :)

    For me, the job I landed immediately after I graduated was my "dream job". Hey, I was paid to code. I loved writing code, I liked finding tricky solutions to problems, I just liked my job. The fact that they paid me (obscenely well by the standards of an undergraduate who had been paid nothing before for doing mostly the same thing) didn't even enter the equation. For about 6 months or so, I was one happy puppy. Churning out code, design specs..researching things I wanted to do, learning new stuff.

    Then the rest of my life kicked in. You figure out the 12 hour days are ok, but you didn't want to stay in office and miss the rest of your life pass you by. A progamer interview I saw recently (ShowTime, a War3 player) said he plays almost continuously for 15 hours a day. I may like gaming, but I couldn't take that continously for too long. Even people with dream jobs need to find a balance somewhere. If a dream job demands all your energy, your time.. leaves you with no energy for anything else.. then it won't be your dream job forever.

    A true dream job (definitely not something you can be paid for, so I wonder if you can call it a "job" anymore) would allow you balance. If you're earning a wage for it, then sooner or later, you will find yourself wishing for something else.

    My $0.02

  13. Article Index - 10 Jobs by funny-jack · · Score: 4, Informative

    The linked article is actually a story about 9 different people with 9 different jobs, each leading to a separate article.

    Actually, like the article says, they really do talk about 10 jobs. They just don't link to the last one in that summary page. Here's the index page:

    http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/contents/index.html

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  14. fallacy by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    how many times have you heard people say that they loved computers until they started working with them professionally?

    There is no dream job. The fact that it's a job takes all the enjoyment out of it.

  15. Dream Job for Linux Sysadmin by Stinky+Cheese+Man · · Score: 5, Informative

    PNL is hiring a Senior System Administrator for the world's largest Linux cluster and 5th fastest supercomputer.

    1. Re:Dream Job for Linux Sysadmin by geomon · · Score: 4, Informative

      That's PN N L!

      Yes, I know it is pnl.gov. That domain was handed out before it was upgraded to an environmental laboratory. Looking forward to becoming a 'homeland security' laboratory soon (yeah).

      Great place to work, though.

      The supercomputer is housed in the Environmental Molecular Science Laboratory. The pay is good and the people are friendly.

      Did I mention that I work at the Lab?

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  16. I have _THE_ best job in the world! by GoMMiX · · Score: 5, Funny

    $345 a week and all I have to do is send out three resumes during that week.

    That Master's degree sure is serving me well now!

  17. An opposing point of view would say by devphil · · Score: 4, Insightful


    that if you find a job that you like, you'll never have to work a day in your life.

    Friend, if the best thing about your job is the time you spend away from it, you're in the wrong job.

    I'm not saying it should be the centerpiece of your life. (Indeed, my mother tells me that we are a nation that worships our work, works at our play, and plays at our worship. *grin*) I think I have my dream job, but I'm not going to pass up spending time with good friends to get in a few more hours just for fun. But if you dread your job to the point where the only enjoyment is looking to leave, you need to find new employment.

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  18. Re:Dream Job by Dr.+Zowie · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I worked doing mission ops for the SOHO spacecraft for four years. It's a cool place to be -- cutting edge stuff, you're beaming commands daily to a spacecraft a million miles away, yadda yadda. But you rapidly learn that "glamour" is something you can only see from far away. When you're actually doing the stuff, it's just another high stress job in a room with no windows, and debugging and fixing the spacecraft is just what you do every day. I used to have to force myself to look at the big picture and realize what an amazing place I was in.

    Now I'm doing pure research and some teaching, in Boulder, CO. This turns out to be closer to my dream job -- more flexible hours and lots of self-directed variety to the tasks. It's certainly not for everyone -- I basically sit around staring at equations, or images, or image-processing software, most of the time -- but every once in a while I get to figure out something nobody's ever known before, and that keeps me going the rest of the year.

    Of course, the problem with a self-directed job is that you're always with your boss... :-)

  19. uh...ok by DirtyJ · · Score: 5, Funny
    Q: Why do you keep hitting your head with that hammer?

    A: Because it feels so good when I stop!

  20. Ultimate job: House husband... by HarveyBirdman · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...to a rich and sexy and loving wife.

    Rich, loving, sexy wife: Honey, I'm home. I made another million dollars today. And I stopped at Fredrick's Of Hollywood today, but that's a suprise.

    Lucky husband: Great. Oh, the 25" mirror for my new telescope arrived today along with the racks of G5 XServes. I'll mount the mirror out in the Large Array tomorrow morning.

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  21. Obligatory Simpson's Quote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Smithers: Uh, hello. You got a Help Wanted sign in the window?

    Moe: Yeah, I need someone to help me with the midnight beer delivery. Your job is to distract Barney until it's safely off the truck.

    Smithers: I'll just wait out back until then.

    Barney: I look forward to working with you!

  22. I had a dream job- by IWantMoreSpamPlease · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I worked in a morgue. It was a wonderful job

    Think about it for a moment. The co-workers were (dead) quiet, I could play all the loud music I wanted and none of my co-workers ever complained.

    I could read on the job, sleep on the job (overnight stay was part of the job) and no one cared.

    Granted, it was a little cool at the place, but Management realized it was a dead-end job, so they allowed you free reign. We ordered pizzas, had friends over, watched movies, even got paid pretty well!

    Only problem with the job was, as I said earlier, it was pretty much dead-end, though if I died on the job, they had full benefits.

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